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I also like to frame this with basketball. You have streetball, high school, college, WNBA, NBA, etc. It depends on the context… you can be extremely talented in your domain, but not fit in at all or compete in another. For example, you can be the best high school basketball player in the country, but get your butt kicked in the NBA. Stop trying to emulate Michael Jordan when you should really be focusing on being the best middle school basketball player!! Also, imagine an alien who can whoop Michael Jordan’s butt any day of the week.

Lord almighty not Alien stuff again. Also this thread is so full of falsehood it's just painful.

Think he’s referring to Alien Love.

Ever have a dream where you were somebody else? How did you act in that dream? What was your thinking like? Then you awakened and realized it was all a dream...but notice....you were still YOU even when you dreamed you were somebody else. Maybe you were a girl, maybe you were a cat, maybe you were an alien, maybe you were a soldier on a battlefield, whatever you were....you were YOU. This is something you should contemplate about. When I entered the void there was no body, no physical world, there was just nothing, but....I was still ME. That's when I realized what was being said when it said it was all MIND. No matter what I incarnate as, I will ALWAYS be ME. My mind thinks and constructs a particular way regardless of what I am. I had a dream today where I was some African Soldier in a futuristic world and was arguing with another African futuristic soldier about infiltrating high level security and different heroes in our respective Armies and their ability to infiltrate. I argued with him in the same way I would as if I were my current human self even though I lost ALL memory of me ever being my human self. I awoke from the dream telling him that he was wrong. When I awoke I felt the anger of the guy I was talking too and the anger of me and I laughed at the fact I was playing both roles and was fooling myself. Realize....your whole life....is just like this dream. This is what is meant by karma. You retain your habitual thinking and emoting patterns regardless of what form you take. THIS is how you are immortal. Sure your form is temporary, but your MIND is eternal. This is the gift of GOD.

Split myself into a conscious and unconscious, so that I could surprise myself and appreciate reality from different angles of self-discovery towards potentially infinite growth and exploration. The unconscious part would shape my experiences without me knowing, creating highs and lows and guide my overall experience. I would split my psyche and become others, yet another layer inaccessible to even my subconscious, on a physical level, they would be simulated by the same overarching godhead that I am and that is absolute consciousness of which every persona is a self-perpetuating experience, so they'd be as real as I am. There would be both a personal and overarching reality and a consensus space that would allow for vivid and real interpersonal experiences in a physical reality while each person after their death would remember the entirety of their experience and have the power to create new reality bubbles completely of themselves or interact with others if a connection was welcome. The immaterial reality before the absolute God would be equally infinite in potential, though each piece of consciousness on its own could determine how far they wanted to subdivide, expand, interact or merge their experience, even into the absolute. There would be an infinite amount of checks and balances involved that would create a greater harmony, yet give each consciousness its own autonomy. It would be a vivid universe of autonomous beings shaping their experience with infinite potential of overlap, creating finite avatars and overarching realities that would emerge their own spirit, turning it into an infinitely vast interconnected universe allowing for each desire and each possibility to evolve, every link to be established and infinite knowledge to be accessed or reduced to shape any kind of experience imaginable to the extent that one desires it. Maybe that's what I created, maybe that's what I will create, maybe I made it so we're all part of it now, maybe I did it beforehand, maybe in hindsight, maybe on the go, but I desire others to exist, and I desire the ability to share and become anything and I desire to exist and to change and for all my past versions and for all the other people and all potential future selves to exist on their own right, for infinite communication and every possibility to occur and fill the universe with life. And I am conscious, so I am God, but if could chose what God to be, that's the god I would be, which is human and alien and sovereign and equally a part of an infinite amount of other gods. I'd do it out of love for that which I am, as much as that which I am not and the unity of both.

I don't get what Leo talks about with his alien consciousness. 😵‍💫 I'm not putting things in my ass to get this realization. Don't tell me to do 5 MeO. I only have LSD in my house.

I have had glimpses of Alien Consciousness without 5 MeO. Food for thought.

Compare the difference between human intelligence and the intelligence of a rat. Now you can merely only begin to glimpse the difference between human consciousness and infinite consciousness. It would appear alien to us. And to infinite consciousness we humans would appear less than what an ant's consciousness is to us.

I'll have to send you a pic of my Italian bambina to let you know what Alien Cuteness looks like. Yup, she is so damn cute that she's basically not human anymore! ❤️

Hey! This is my first trip with Ketamine, to be precise the legal version of Ketamine (here in europe): 2FDCK. I have just one experience with dissociatives, precisely DXM, and you can find the report in my profile. This Keta experience, which is my first ever, was.... literally ALIENATING. But not a bad trip. It was utterly fascinating, DEEPLY MYSTERIOUS and deeply mesmerizing. It actually left me with MORE QUESTIONS than before. -- Technical data -- Empty stomach since 5 hours Night-time trip, around 3:00 AM 2 hours beforehand I assumed 500 ml of grape juice - the fruit's enzymes act as a slow-down for dissociatives, letting you have a longer high state I meditated 45 minutes before the session I did 15 mins of self inquiry just after meditation Dosage: 75 mg of 2FDCK >>> Plugged rectally (following all @Leo Gura 's tips for plugging) ---- THE EXPERIENCE ---- >> The quick start 5 minutes after the plugging, my body started to feel sleepy very fast, and I sat on the carpet of my bathroom with a nice lamp lighting to keep me calm. The first 2-3 minutes were still very "normal", I was still my old self, with still a very strong feeling of being "in control". Then.... after just 5 minutes.... IT PUNCHED me so hard!!!! BOOOOM!!! I had switched from a consciousness state of "it's ok, I'm still me, it's still same old reality" to "what?!? where am I? what is this existance? why?? why is this even real? why am I here?!?" It happened without even a transitioning! I literally switched from being "self-conscious" as always, to BEING without a concept of my self or a concept of "my reality". It's so weird, I can't describe it. It's not describable! >> The mystery movie I remember I was looking at the bathroom tiles and the bathrobe and they felt so ALIEN. These objects are my ordinary life objects, and they are so dumb and unnoticeable in my normal life... yet they were so mesmerizing and MYSTERIOUS! Oh god, the mystery!!! The bathrobe had these spirals (which it has in real life too), but... during the trip these spirals were so MYSTICAL and so UNEXPLAINABLE!!! It was like looking at an alien artifact, or a south american ancient artifact. By the way... 2F-K has no visuals, no sensory effects... it shows you reality as you perceive it daily, but what changes is the state of consciousness and the levels of ego. My ego was reduced A LOT, to about 30% of it. And my state of consciousness was of TOTAL MYSTERY, THRILLER-FEELING, like in a noir or psychological crime movie. It was deeply fascinating but slightly scary at the same time. My ears had this constant ringing, which was pretty loud, like some kind of static noise in my head. My mood was almost non-existant. I was very neutral, yet at the same time I was really puzzled and dumbstruck by the deep mystery of existing and witnessing reality. >> The insanity of existing (peak state) Since the assumption of the chemical, I never looked at the time, until the start of the comedown. Time was really slow... slow... slow... For some brief instances it looked like I was stuck in this eternity FOREVER, in that moment forever... and it scared me as hell. Then the absolute peak happened: I was 90% dissociated from my body and from my thoughts. My body was working all alone, without Billiesimon participating. My thoughts were passing by like clouds, and I didn't even notice them. For some brief minutes I WAS PURE WATCHING. I WAS PURE WATCHING. I WAS PURE WATCHING. I SEE. I AM THE ONE THAT SEES. I JUST SEE. I HAVE NO MIND. I CAN ONLY WATCH. This body is not even mine. These thougths are just random noise, what the hell?! This place... what is this place? What is reality? Why the hell do I exist? I am pure seeing, I am pure watching... why? This place... this house... this situation... this everything... WHY?!? NOTHING HAS A MEANING!!!! IT HAS NO MEANING!!! IT'S JUST SOME ALIEN PERCEPTION!! EVERYTHING IS AN ALIEN PERCEPTION WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME!!!! And I don't even know what "me" means. >> Ego kicked back a little . The need for security At some point I believe my EGO kicked in.... and I felt the need to brace my legs and body, like a child who's scared... I grabbed my phone, while my hands felt like random meat and bones, and NOT my body. I sent some messages to my friend. He was asleep. I found comfort in sending the messages, it felt a little bit more like reality was still the same old. I could barely talk, my instinct was telling me that talking made no sense, that my state of being should be enough to communicate with others. Why should I use words? Can't I communicate just by being? The use of words feels so alien and so weird.... I managed to send three short audio messages, with very few words like "nothing has meaning" or "reality is so alien to me", in a very calm, sloooooow and very neutral voice, almost like a ghost voice. >> The Source calls me I reverted back to keep meditating on the present moment, I realized that my ego was in the way of my true objective: finding the ego death. After some contemplation of the bathroom tiles and the flowers depicted... I felt this Void calling me... I understood that if I continued focusing on the present and meditating... I could have reached a state of basic ego death, some kind of void state. I could tell it was the case, because the more I was meditating , the more I felt like I was completely losing EVERYTHING. Time, space, identity, concepts of life, everything was melting away and I WAS BECOMING A CAMERA. The more I meditated the more I was becoming a NEUTRAL CAMERA, STARING AT THE WORLD. The call from the Source became loud (as it happened in my DXM trip) and then the entrance to the Void was offered to me. Even this time I refused... again.... As I approached the Void in my state of presence, an explosion of FEAR AND TERROR rushed into me, and my ego screamed at me to stop immediately. The terror was so strong that I started to mentally say "no no no no!!! not this time! I'm not ready!!! I might die!!" Again... Source closed off the entrance to the Void and I was left alone with my ego, feeling safe, feeling "as my old self", feeling somehow angry for not accepting the call. But it was so massive... the entrance was so massive... I never entered the void, but... JUST THE ENTRANCE WAS SO MASSIVE..... I couldn't stand it. I WANT to enter it, but I was not ready this time. I was not ready. At the end, as my ego regained power, my body had some nausea, some pain in the stomach, and some small bursts of terror, as my reality was coming back to normal. At the end, I regained peace and a very pleasant feeling of sleepiness. I went to bed. I was not ready. Just the entrance alone was so immense and scary... oh god. But I SWEAR I WILL ENTER!

I think he meant a waste of time regarding awakening, my mini meditations help me be more happy, focused and basically more conscious. I suffer less, but maybe won't "awaken" me to alien intelligence

@Breakingthewall What you're telling me is equivalent to: But that's actually pretty charitable since I can use tons of different circles to match an owl if I got that reference but the problem is that I'm at step 1 and there is no reference, I don't know what an owl is, yet I'm supposed to draw one and all I know is that circles will get me there. If you tell me to look at a fractal and tell you what it makes me feel, I'd tell you it reminds more of mirrors, it's infinite, the colors or qualia is mind-blowing, it has interesting properties that I can describe like "as above so below", phenomena repeating but in unique ways, that it can warp and change in fascinating ways I haven't experienced in the reality I'm usually accustomed to, that even the idea of a fractal feels so alien, that it gave me an insight about things existing outside my awareness, or remind me of a black swan event, that I am limited by what I know and unimaginable things exist that I didn't experience that I can only know in retrospect after it enters my experience over which I don't appear to have any control except for receptiveness which really just ups my chances of not missing something and so on and so on. That feelings compared to thoughts are extremely complex, that they are like inverse kinematics that forward kinematics (thoughts, science, ideas, philosophies, behaviors) are modelled after. That on psychedelics I feel like inverse kinematics, I don't move each joint at a time, but all of it together subconsciously, that I was always able to do that, to do without thought, that maybe that's infinity, and thought is narrowing it down and getting tied up in the limitation later believed to be real.

Fantastic diss track by DayLyt towards Eminem, and really good rap technics DayLyt is like a UFO alien at this point:

I have tripped many times on acid like 10 times solid tripping. At times I am finding I am not getting much of different flavours and aspects of awakening ; as @Leo Gura points and validates to alien consciousness. I feel the substance has limitations to what consciousness levels it can take you to. I am curious if is it really the issue of substance, or its the issue of lack of philosophical foundation and contemplation? It could be both strong philosophy and substance which would take me to more higher forms of awakening?

Here is an alien observing a human giving birth to a baby:

I don't understand why I have to explain everything to you as if you were a newborn alien visiting this reality for this first time. If winters occurs, it doesn't magically make jackets appear. The jackets appear because people don't like to be cold. There is no actual relationship between these two things. With something like an atom, when we move the atom, it will always cause the other atom to move in that circumstance, because there actually is a metaphysical relationship between these two parts of reality. Without such relationships, reality couldn't exist. I think it is more useful to frame it as a causal relationship for the reasons I already described. Manipulation of reality is inherently understood through motion, and the brain is nothing but looking at that part of reality through the lense of motion. Because the "true" relationships between things are necessarily hidden to us, it makes more sense to view the relationships themselves as the things that exist, as viewed from a certain perspective. Then, it just becomes a game of which perspective is most functional. As I stated, reality is inherently mysterious. This means, any causal mechanism, if inspected closely enough, will not have any cause at all, it simply will be. All that exists is the relationship itself, it is instantiated directly through the Causeless Cause/Free Will/Divinity. I said it is either lazy or lacks the ability to engage. I don't see you making a genuine attempt at trying to understand what I am saying, it seems more like you attempt to frame everything I say through frameworks that are already familiar to you.

It's not a goal of the ego but the fact remains that there are other states of consciousness. Yes - all that exists right now is your current state of consciousness. But we know from direct experience that there are different states of consciousness. That is indeed stored in memory so that we can self reference it. And that difference right now is imaginary- but notice - everything - all things - are imaginary. This closes the loop. Only existence itself is Truth. So yes - you are not wrong- but the fact still remains that you can become Infinite, Alien Consciousness.

Not recently it was a glimpse during my awakenings. I had several mini awakenings of Alien Infinity. Or we can just say Infinity. It is alien relative to us. The wind was like a tornado moving through the body - and in another awakening I became Alien Consciousness. I didn't think much of it until now, because it was so brief, but when Leo started talking about it I started putting the pieces togerher...But yeah, it's definitely not human.

I was in a long-distance with her for ~1.5 years, have met her in real life 4 times. She wanted freedom in the relationship, and as I would later realize it, she'd use that freedom to stop caring about me. Last I texted her before V day - When can I take you out on a candle-lit dinner, (her name) ? It's been 10 days, she has seen but not replied, but had time to post Instagram stories. I had an insight that if a person is so free in the relationship, that they stop caring about their partner, they are ironically, not in a relationship. I don't know what to do. I even cried yesterday. I doubt I'll hear from her again, If I don't text her. What's the greatest sign of love here? To text her asking her if she's alright, or to accept that she probably doesn't want me in her life, and to let her go.

Plant based diet obviously costs less. If you are willing to consume bean plasters daily and you have alien intestines.

Just be careful that this is a distraction from your own awakening. You are the universe and the alien. We are all one. You are god. We do not need to meet aliens. The universe is a mental construct. Let go of all concepts. We should ask if free will exists and if there is a self. But we might as well ask here on this forum or simply ask ourselves. You couod ask to be awakened but only we can awaken ourselves.

Are you saying you recently experienced Alien Consciousness, like for real???

We appreciate you too. Keep the work up. My direct experience of Infinity has indeed been alien as well. Wind that blew the doors off the human body and once a presence so not human it shook me to the core. Infinity is a beast. Looking forward to your future work.

That's an interesting topic that I too like to talk about with the alien. Like, if they're awake, which methods did they use? there's pyschedelics in their planet? Do they have some form of meditation or something? Maybe some method that we humans are capable of doing and didnt discovered yet...

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