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He understands well his society Shit you have the heart of a lion, You are right, if an alien society comes and says that this galactic sector is under their jurisdiction, but that I will continue to retain my properties, I will have citizen status and they will also bring technology that will make me immortal, I will say: no!!!!! in the name of Muhammad I will educate my children to commit suicide since nothing is more terrible than not being sovereign! I want to be subjected to an retarded Spanish dictator! Only he can sodomize me and put me in jail for 25 years for a comment on Instagram!! But they're not aliens. They're Jews who've lived in that land for 3,000 years. There's always been a Jewish presence, and when Israel was founded, there were half a million living there. They didn't oppress or steal. They brought wealth and prosperity, openness and vitality. Why don't collaborate and grow together as a society? Maybe because Muslims don't want to grow, just go to paradise? Listen this Muslim, he's smart https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNxiSB52NbW/?igsh=bG1qNm44ZG1oaGc4

This is a serious post that is seeking advice on how I can offer others help in dealing with the outstanding damage left behind in their lives by fools. Through my life I've been aware of my own foolishness and I basically thought that I was as foolish as it gets. No doubt I had more than one area of foolishness, but I was in for a rude awakening to the true scale of what proper foolishness can look like. It's become abundantly clear to me that fools exist not only as members of society, but leaders of society. All you have to do is look at Donald Trump. But even broader, the majority of society harbours massive amounts of foolishness. Drug epidemics, abysmal education systems, wars, etc. In my life I have witnessed the breathtaking foolishness of others and the ineffable damage they have caused people in my society. Foolishness that surpasses my own many, many times. We're not talking about a high school teenage bully. We're talking about leaders and authority figures who have absolutely crippled peoples entire lives. The only thing I can think of when I see this is how can I make it better. There are those in society who are commended for their work in annihilating young peoples lives, destroying families and causing people to commit suicide. They are commended, promoted and published as heros and offered pay rises for their dedication and focus on hurting people young and old. So much so that it even starts to make you think, "are these people even aware of how much damage their causing their own people?" It's kind of like that situation where you hear other people talking about how they can sing well but when they sing they sound like a screaming cat, then you think..."well I think I can sing reasonably well, do I sound like a screaming cat too?" It seems that certain people are just absolutely and unsalvageably clueless as to the real world. Back to the point, while the people they have destroyed, and I mean completely fucking destroyed, are told to go to counsellors or take up a new hobby which I've been told does a grand total of fuck all to help the crippled lives of young people who have fallen at the hands of these proclaimed heros. Part of my education process with spirituality has included what philosophers mention in that consciousness is infinite in its ability to create. Infinite in its ability to create happiness and peace and beauty as well as pain, destruction and devastation. Each with an ability to compound on itself and multiply the effect 2, 5, 10, 100 times for better or worse. Like imagine being in nazi Germany and you are just now being informed that you and your entire family are about to enter the new stage of your lives which will be prolonged torture and death by gas chamber. Or your an African American person in 1870 and you've been informed that your daughter has been hung on a tree by the KKK and the government thinks they're heros and if you react negatively at all, you'll simply be hung as well. Like how does a person deal with this calibre of utter stupidity? From my perspective there are no currently existent words that exist that appropriate the full gravity of the madness that exists even in the present world. My question is a serious one. How on god's green earth do we heal a person who has been broken. Not just hurt, but completely bent out of shape seemingly permanently. i mean I already know the answer, there is nothing anyone can do to fix it. But there has to be something in the toolbox of life that can at least offer a slight improvement to some who has brushed shoulders with, let's call them...ultra-morons. People who legitimately believe they are good in their minds for hanging black people on trees, gassing Jews and crippling the lives of young people...sometimes to the point of suicide. How does one go about even starting to try and help someone who has experienced this level of collosal stupidity?

Well, no one is asking you to commit suicide by badminton.

Getting Rich Blueprint Ahh man i've been struggling to get rich for so fucking long now .. Lets fucking go 1. Inner Game, Mental & Psychological Side : Similar to dating, yeah you have to work hard and earn your wealth but thats not enough, everyone works fucking hard man. No, War mentality I'm leaning a lot more towards darkness, stepping on people, zero empathy and affection (thats reserved for all my girlfirends thanks) Fucking ruthlessness, lie manipulate, hunger, be a snake be a dog animal bark bark energy fire. Promise shit, collect cash, get amazing at bullshit, marketing. Outreach. Make money get employees for delegation manipulate them get rich quick quick quick GET FUCKING RICH Dont give a f*ck what anyone thinks, piss people the fuck off, call 400 people a day, harass people, never let a lead go until they block you, demand more payment, if they cheap clients collect their money and fuck off and focus on the gold, no refunds. MASTER the fuck out of social psychology and manipulation and frame management, value perception, master my mannerisms my communication for business sales calls everything, master social media if needed i hate getting online attention but if i have to do it, i have to do it. Darkness makes money. Have to become a villain to get rich. ^^ So many people milked me of my money time attention before, i dont owe the world fucking nothing, i'm here to take back. IM GETTING RICH NIGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM GETTING FUCK RICH OR I'LL DIE INTHE PROCESS NIGGGAAA SUICIDE MENTALITY MFFFFF

Cold Approach & Womaniser Blueprint Style Need more fresh clothes - Tailored Pants *3-5, mix of color range - $60- $120 Fresh Sneakers - $60-$130 Club button Shirts - big weakness, I normally just wear fitted white t shirt, which can still work fine, I do see all these guys in the club wearing those shirts thinknig where the fuck do I get these, good to have as an option Inner Game & Drive No Fap Visualization/Affirmations/Self Talk (Probably most overlooked) Final Boss - Remember that this isn't merely to fuck loads of girls (it is but) I'm going to fall for beautiful young exotic ultra feminine 19 year olds (or even younger ;)) , its gona happen, ive got the looks i've got the charisma, just have to max it out, my ultimae cieling is extremely high, I've got Owen cooks sex drive + James Bond looks (when im stylemaxed/looksmaxed) + Vincent Cassels charisma. But that doesnt mean shit until I get the fucking money and the consistent logistics and I go to fucking war and never stop. Brute Force War & Warrior Mentality, WW2 Suicide Mentality & Nihilism Avoid lazy & passive men like the plague Both Day game & Night game (but have to be strategic about night game - choice of when to go out, which events - logistics venue context can make the juice not worth the squeeze, since you're sacrificing sleep and health, has to be worth it ... Also cut off by 1-2AM, no regular fucking 4-6am nights, maybe once a month max. Leo and others thinking this is sustainable is completely nuts, it destroys fucking everything, sleeping at 5AM even once ruins the entire week Approach women of any age older or younger if i feel attraction doesn't matter Never need validation and laugh at rejection Be willing to go out alone, do things alone, and do things in optimal conditions Still approach if broke, approach when high body fat, approach without tailored pants, the momentum is sacred

@theoneandnone Well i cant reply to you if you keep threatening suicide because i don't want to be the one to trigger someone into suicide. If you need help you can ask.

- No, I just repeatedly point out to you the expulsions began before the 1948 invasions, this is the sixth time I am saying this. Even during an invasion, that doesn’t justify war crimes. Just because you’re fighting a war doesn’t mean you are no allowed to do whatever you want to civilians. They didn’t need to go from village to village slaughtering civilians and driving out thousands by force from their homes because at the same time they were fighting Arab armies. (Again, they were already doing this before any Arab army invaded) - because you’re ignoring the context of the Arab riots, this was in response to active colonization of their land. The hebron massacre you keep pointing out for example happened after zionists were marching with weapons chanting the country is there’s. The nebu masa riot escalated from a Jewish milita shooting at an Arab militia that was in a Jewish area searching for French soldiers. - you can’t seem to process that entire populations are not collectively responsible for actions by some of them, and that doesn’t justify crimes committed years later. Imagine there is a race riot in New York between blacks and whites, let’s some it’s started by black rioters, so a year later whites form a armed militia who begins carrying out bombings, the blacks start forming their own militias and also attacking, then the whites start killing thousands of blacks and expel hundreds of thousands of blacks from the city. The original race riot does not justify carrying out terrorist attacks against other people, the fight between militias does not justify mass ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of people who are not involved just because they’re the same race. You never apply this logic to the other side, do you think Hamas is justified in suicide bombings because Palestinians faced settler attacks for years? Do you think the Arab states that expelled their Jews were justified because they had fought a war?

They aren't resentful of what was done to them, but of being Jews in Palestine. The Tutsis are less resentful of the Hutus than the Palestinians with the Jews, and this was a real genocide. They are coexisting and improving Ruanda now. Crimea was populated by Tatars for centuries; Stalin deported them, then they returned, and now they're there as a minority, and they're not immolating themselves every two days. The Sahrawis feel oppressed by Morocco, and they're not stabbing Moroccans as their primary goal in life The Chechens were crushed by Putin, and they haven't spent 100 years educating their 3-year-olds to commit suicide. In fact they are Putin's friends now. This is a purely religious conflict, and if you don't see it, you're blind, with all your tons of information. Why turkey or Iran and so concerned by Israel? Why they are not concerned about the tartars in Crimea, or Chechenia, or about the Sahara?

@Sugarcoat I have figured out another reason not to kill yourself. It is a framework that acknowledges the reality of suicide without moralizing against you. Basically, if you are suicidal, then most likely you are dealing with circumstances that no human being should have to cope with. In this sense it is not really about you, but rather something deeply unfair and difficult that overwhelms your ability to cope. What this means is that you need help coping with an impossible situation. The problem is that our current system is often dysfunctional and fails people who reach out for help by prescribing pills that make things worse. Therefore, if I feel suicidal, then I want help coping with something extremely difficult. However, the reason people do kill themselves is if they feel that they cannot be helped. From this point of view, if I am suicidal then I want to reach out to every possible source I can imagine in the hopes of finding one person who cares, as this is what it takes to start making things at least a little bit better. It makes sense to approach suicidal thoughts in this way if you are approaching the ultimate final decision to take your own life.

I agree legal assisted suicide should be available in all 50 states

I am discouraging it, But in a nutshell I find suicide as valid if one is suffering immensely enough. Shit I think I’ll do it eventually and I would hate for someone tell say “oh don’t go we need you here” bla bla fck offf

Where is there to go? The common assumption behind suicide is that you'll go into this lovey dovey plane of existence where all your worries and problems will melt away, escaping the problems ur facing on earth. Is that guaranteed though? Is it true? For all I know, my life after death could be worse. Many people report hellish NDE experiences. After reading many NDE reports, I have this intuition that suicide in many cases is the too obvious answer. People get lectured in their life reviews telling them how much of a selfish asshole they were etc etc. I think if someone is truly suicidal, they should probably go balls to the wall in spirituality since they have nothing to lose either. My personal theory is that some form of kamma is real. We don't know what any of us did in our past lives but it might come boomeranging back relentlessly. What I think matters is intentions behind suicide. Are they pure? Since most things in the universe are cyclic in some kind of way, it's no wild assumption to also assume birth and death is also cyclic (rebirths). If one's intentions are relatively pure (eg. if one has attained a very high integrated spiritual state but is suffering a terminal illness) then suicide would be considered tbh. If I were to commit suicide, I would settle my business here on earth and repay my debts to society, my family and others who have helped me. And I would have attained a highly integrated spiritual state which even carries over to my daily life (like an arahant). For me that would be a blameless suicide. Point is, I don't think suicide is the escape most people think it is. Who can prove existence after suicide isn't more suffering than what one intended to escape? Im not some new ager "life is a school!" type either. The suffering is definitely there and it does seem senseless and meaningless for many. But I do think most suicides has some form of metaphysical consequences. For terminal illness and chronic unbearable physical pain, sure I can see why it would be done. For most people I think, mental problems can be worked on and overcome instead of going straight into the deep end and dying. But for many, it does get to that point unfortunately may they rest in peace. - me as a guy who's been suicidal for 5-6 years ever since being a teen actually. My suicidality lessened a lot when I realised my suicide isn't exactly the escape that I romanticised it to be. I have a lot of work to do. If you go hardcore into what buddhism teaches, you may find some satisfying conclusions and answers. Classic buddhism won't alleviate all suffering in this life but it will prevent future suffering from future rebirths.

🔹 1. What the Oslo Accords established Signed between Yitzhak Rabin (Israel) and Yasser Arafat (PLO) under U.S. mediation (Bill Clinton), the Oslo Accords (1993–1995) aimed to create a gradual path toward peace and a Palestinian state. They had three main pillars: Mutual recognition: The PLO recognized Israel’s right to exist. Israel recognized the PLO as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people. Progressive Palestinian autonomy: Israel would gradually withdraw from parts of Gaza and the West Bank. The territories would be divided into three zones: Area A: full Palestinian civil and security control. Area B: Palestinian civil control, joint Israeli security control. Area C: full Israeli control. Final-status negotiations within five years (by 1999): To decide issues such as borders, Jerusalem, refugees, and security. 🔹 2. Why Israel did not fully comply Ongoing terrorism (1994–2001): After Oslo, suicide bombings by Hamas and Islamic Jihad increased sharply. More Israelis were killed in terror attacks in the five years after Oslo than in the five years before. This made much of Israeli society lose trust in the Palestinian leadership’s intentions. Domestic political change: In 1995, Rabin was assassinated by a Jewish extremist. In 1996, Netanyahu (Likud) came to power, opposed to Oslo’s approach. From then on, right-wing governments slowed or froze further withdrawals. Unresolved issues: Israel demanded full security guarantees before further concessions. The PLO failed to dismantle its armed factions. Key topics like Jerusalem and settlements were postponed indefinitely. 🔹 3. Why the Palestinians also failed to comply The PLO never formally recognized Israel as a Jewish state. Terrorist groups continued to operate —often tolerated or supported by the Palestinian Authority. The Palestinian Authority did not build democratic institutions; corruption and internal power struggles weakened it. 🔹 4. The outcome Between 1993 and 2000, there were economic improvements and some cooperation, but no political progress. In 2000, Arafat rejected the Camp David offer, which included a Palestinian state on about 92% of the West Bank and all of Gaza. Soon after, the Second Intifada broke out (2000–2005), killing more than 4,000 people. 🔹 5. Summary ActorWhat they failed to doReason IsraelComplete withdrawals, freeze settlementsTerrorism, political shifts, loss of trust Palestinian Authority (PLO)Stop terrorism, accept final peaceInternal divisions, Islamist pressure ResultCollapse of trust and of the peace process 💬 Conclusion: Israel partially complied (withdrawals from Gaza and Jericho, creation of the Palestinian Authority) but halted the process after waves of terrorism and political change. The PLO did not stop violence or build credible governance. Both sides broke the mutual trust that Oslo required —and the peace process collapsed.

I appreciate the sentiments, I know I’m clogging up this forum with this shit and I’m sorry but if solipsism is the ultimate end goal I refuse to do it. I refuse to stay in this dream talking to myself no matter how much I accept the synchronicities… the obvious proof etc I still reject it. I understand the complexity of solipsism etc. but I refuse to be god jerking off in his dream playing with himself. And I totally understand suicide discouragement etc obviously but if it’s my own self talking to me why the hell would I care. Has no weight to it it’s like a dream character saying “don’t leave us” Of course you guys don’t want me to leave because the fucking game and dream ends with me. This is not bashing Leo btw or anyone. (Or myself) lol.

Nice! Here are some sources: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/07/drinking-coffee-may-reduce-risk-of-suicide-by-50/ «Drinking several cups of coffee daily appears to reduce the risk of suicide in men and women by about 50 percent» https://examine.com/research-feed/study/1rEBVd/ «In cohort studies, the highest category of coffee intake (compared to the lowest) was associated with a 11% lower risk of depression. A dose-response analysis indicated a 4% lower risk of depression for each 240 mL per day increase in coffee intake. Similarly, higher coffee intake was associated with a 22% lower odds of depression in cross-sectional studies.» https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/decades-of-research-shows-coffee-makes-you-healthier-happier-but-if-you-want-to-boost-your-energy-level-memory-theres-a-7-day-catch.html «Coffee can reduce your risk of cancer up to 20 percent, your risk of type 2 diabetes by 30 percent, and your risk of Parkinson's disease by 30 percent. A study published in Circulation found that coffee can reduce the risk of stroke by 20 percent. A study of over 260,000 people conducted by the NIH found that people who drank four or more cups of coffee a day were nearly 10 percent less likely to become depressed than those who drank none.» I can't advise you to start, but I don't think you should be afraid to try.

Danm, I had no idea. I don't drink coffe, should i start? Although never experience a serious suicide thoughts in life, maybe depression (not sure).

I don't think coffee is very comparable. Those who don't drink coffee have a higher risk of depression and suicide than those who do, and if you force ChatGPT to answer yes or no on whether coffee is healthy or not, the answer is yes. Enjoy your coffee without guilt, I say!

@Aciddhartha I get what you’re saying because I’m in that same headspace. I also yearn for death sometimes, but what stops me is exactly what you’re describing — not knowing what’s on the other side. People talk about suicide like it’s a clean ‘escape,’ but when you’re honest about it, you realise it might be horrendous, messy, humiliating, even panic‑filled at the moment of dying. And then, if there is something after death, it could be infinite madness with no take‑backs. So you end up in this bind: told to ‘appreciate the now’ while sitting in a mouldy bedroom, broke no matter how much you budget, watching the world burn in a trash bucket. You can’t wish your life away, but you can’t really live it either. It’s like being held between two walls — you see everything clearly, but there’s nowhere to move. Some days I feel like I’d need a lobotomy just to make the bind stop. I’m saying this not to be dramatic but because I think it’s the honest reality for people like us.

How old are you? Do you have close family members? From my understanding when people cross over to the other side because of suicide they experience their life review and if that person commits suicide , they will experience the pain of that decision from every person who knew them because you are always connected to all that it is and connected to other people even if it doesn’t feel like it. In your natural state which is pure spirit , suicide is always the wrong choice because you came to this life to learn lessons so that you can grow as spirit. you are more powerful than you think as a spirit, as pure concsousiness. you might not resonate with that I said but I just wanted to say it.

Every suicide breaks even strangers hearts

@Elliott I don't know you man, like this isn't a teeny tumbler thread but a literal loaded question and dead serious I need answers, there should be legalised government assisted suicide outside of just being a terminally ill patient so people should have the right to exit, at the same time more spiritual philosophical ground works about what happens after such a decision needs less taboo and more open conversation

I'm not looking for some hotline number or “hang in there” crap. My life has been non‑stop abuse, poverty, mould, burning plastic, soul‑crushing jobs, no intimacy, nothing to look forward to. I’m broke, exhausted, and angry. Spiritually or ethically — whatever you want to call it — am I actually allowed to end this? Is suicide an actual escape from this nightmare, or is it just more pain somewhere else? I’m asking for honest answers from people who have been through hell or have studied spirituality deeply. Don’t sugarcoat it.

I'd say enlighment is egoic suicide, it's impossible to die spiritually. If your going into religion you need to guard yourself from all these ideas and concepts like demons. Think of it more like energy. While you can't die spiritually, as spirit is itself truth and life, you can obfuscate it and religion does this. Religion = lifelessness. Mysticism + God = Eternal purpose and escatcy.

Ok thanks .I listed suicide as one solution. never said its the option I'm choosing .I'm studying the teachings of Robert Adams and also deeply studying the Islamic religion. Robert Adams is the most awake spiritual teacher I've ever stumbled upon .if you want I can send you his books. And Islam is the only religion that makes sense to me with all due respect to Christian religion and Eastern religions .so I'm working on both these aspects . Do you know that the Buddha basically commited suicide to awaken ? The story says he went to the woods without food or water and only two things could happen : either he awakens or he dies from hunger . About me and you and Reena and Nahm and Soonhi ..I learned to never judge others . Who would've thought Leo was going to ban Nahm? Who would've thought a lighthearted nice married guy like soonhei would kill himself out of the blue ? Things happen that we don't understand in this life .but it must be accepted . Because we don't know everything. We must be humble .

Why are you reviving this again ? At least he had the balls to commit suicide . I don't know if you realized yet but you're gonna die sooner than you imagine. few decades will fly by like a blink of an eye and you will turn into dust and rot . I don't see anything wrong with suicide. In fact I realized something profound as I was contemplating my life situation..I discovered that you either awaken or you become religious or you kill yourself. No fourth option if you want to cut through the nonsense that's called life .