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Without dying you mean. Bias makes us survive that's its intelligence. No bias means death/transformation of the human form. So if we remove the bias of life over death, then there may be a way for that to happen. Although then the bias for being unbiased would also disappear in a delicious strange loop.

from my experience of doing different kinds of methods for transformation - you never truly change in the sense that you just delete the old you from your mind. i feel like i always stay who i am BUT i added new features on top of that: for example: i was (and still am) a shy introvert growing up and through pickup and improv classes i created a whole new "feature" of being more brave spontanous and playful around people. now i can enjoy socializing way more, but i stiil feel like after a few hours im tired of everybody and just want to read a book in my bed.

The infograph seems a tool similar to Spiral Dynamics/Integral Theory but specifically applied to introspection. You should test/refine that model. On my personal journey, teachings of Leo Gura, Ralston, Jed McKenna, Ken Wilber, SantataGamana. Embodiment/Deep Transformation is #1 goal after learning a lot.

I would say life pushed me to changed. All of life is ever changing and evolving. And it was simply just a matter of choice. I was going through a break up and at the time I was choosing to be a victim and go in circles. It took time, help and a tremendous amount of self honesty. I embrace a simple path. I celebrate the unknown and uncertainty of life. These are good things filled with possibilities for further transformation, a canvas to create on. I'm very careful with assuming and believing one system of thought. What if I keep my mind open and balanced and I can learn something from everyone? The language we use is very powerful. What vocabulary do you use? Are you being authentic when in your relationships, in your speech, in your action. The two biggest realizations for me were becoming conscious enough that I create my emotions and my life, through the beliefs I hold and the actions I take from those beliefs. I am not at the mercy of everything and for me I believe the middle path is for me where I live as a spiritual being but also embrace humanity. I love my life like this. I am responsible for my life, there is no way of getting out of this responsiblity. I am inherently valuable and already have everything I need within, am whole and complete in every moment. I allow it to be moment to moment that I am this wholeness and live the life I desire in flow. I am gentle with myself when I choose to look through what people here call the ego, and being honest and truthful is how I try to live my life always.

In one sense, everything is co-incidence. You are coincident with yourself. So of course there are going to be synchronicities, because its all synchronicities! Humanity is undergoing a rapid transformation of consciousness in which we are realizing that our minds are fundamentally connected in One Mind, called a social memory complex, or Collective Consciousness. The thoughts you think are syncronized with those you know. You are quantumly entagled with the people you interact with. When a person thinks, they radiate Light in the shape of the thought out at the speed of light. The spine functions as an antennae that is able to recieve information wirelessly through the global electric circuit of the Earth. The more you think something, the more you will find people all over the world thinking similarly. As within, so without. We are all connected.

The question touches on themes of personal growth, redemption, and sacrifice. It challenges us to consider the deep-rooted beliefs and values that shape who we are, and whether we have the capacity to let go of them in order to become someone entirely different. It also begs us to reflect on the consequences of such a transformation, and whether the end result would ultimately be worth the sacrifice.

@Nemra Hmm, do you mean the metamorphic self-transformation and other-creation ability of organisms then?

My perspective on life underwent a profound transformation when I embraced spirituality and delved into consciousness work. Through this journey, I learned to let go of my ego, reaching a state of inner stillness and tranquility that I had never known before. This shift led to a significant change in my values, especially after experiencing what is often referred to as The Dark Night of the Soul. However, I have found that to engage in everyday conversations, I often feel compelled to betray my authentic self. This means participating in discussions about topics like shopping, events, sports, and other mundane things, which hold little to no interest for me. Engaging in these types of conversations not only feels like a waste of time but also places a significant amount of pressure on me. My mind constantly reminds me that I could be using that time for more productive pursuits that contribute to my personal growth and development. I have noticed that many people, particularly women, seem uninterested in discussing deeper subjects such as truth, spirituality, or philosophy. This observation leaves me feeling isolated and misunderstood, as I yearn for conversations that reflect my true interests and values. I wonder if others have experienced similar feelings. Is it common to feel this way after undergoing such a transformation? Is there something inherently wrong with me for struggling to engage in conventional social interactions?

We are not caring about alternate realities. We care about Absolute Awakening in THIS REALITY and in THIS LIFETIME. Some of us are not letting death decide destiny. We are writing it in this lifetime while we are alive. Not at all. The point of the work we are doing here is that is the only thing that is not lost. All your mental stories will be lost, as well as your physical body. Your process of Evolution will not be lost. It transcends birth and death. Birth, death, and this reality belongs to a certain dimension. The Awakening that we are seeking is the ultimate dimensionless. It is beyond what you think is possible. You say this because you just haven´t tasted yet anything beyond your psychological process or mystical peak experiences. All of that belongs to the relative and indeed it will be lost. Speak for yourself. Spiritual truth is not a dogma or belief you adopt. Is a state of consciousness and deep transformation. It doesn´t have anything to do with intellectual knowledge. wtf? This Reality is meaningless. 'This reality' is the bondage itself. The point is stopping reincarnation as a limited thing (a form-a body- a mind that thinks) and going to back to unlimitation so your "act" on Creation number 84 can end. This is not a matter of choice, you already are looking for unlimitation through new endless sexual partners, career adventures, opening business, reading books, watching movies, playing sports... Your nature is such that you are constantly trying to break your limitations. The question is, do you want to do it in a conscious and direct way or do you want to spend 3 more lifetimes doing the outside circus ? What message is that?

This is from my reasearch: I put here and not in the Politics Area because there is ready a big shit show, so you can see this reading as mere entretainment but also can be a deep dive Take your own Conclusions Is a long read : Pluto in Aquarius has played a significant role in shaping human history. Let’s explore some key periods when Pluto was in Aquarius: 674–647 BCE: During this era, significant developments occurred in various fields. 430–404 BCE: A period marked by societal shifts and technological advancements. 185–160 BCE: Astrology itself saw growth during this time. 60–85 CE: Notable changes in society and technology. 305–329 CE: Further developments in astrology and societal structures. 550–574 CE: Shifts in power dynamics and group dynamics. 795–819 CE: Influence on societies and technological progress. 1041–1063 CE: Profound changes in various domains. 1286–1308 CE: Societal transformations and technological innovations. 1532–1553 CE: A period of significant shifts. 1777–1798 CE: Last occurrence before the current cycle. 2023–2044 CE: Pluto’s return to Aquarius, impacting our future. These historical threads offer insights into what lies ahead as Pluto continues its journey through Aquarius Pluto In Aquarius: History Meets Future. Analyzing the Past 1,000 Years to See What’s to Come Updated: Jan 29 The beginning of a 20 years transit. The start of an age of major scientific discovery, societal transformation, and technological revolution. Pluto, (dwarf) planet of renewal, destruction, death, transformation, birth, and the Underworld, enters Aquarius. On March 23rd, 2023, Pluto enters Aquarius for the first time. Because the planet is so slow (and changes direction a couple of times), it’ll take a quick dip back into Capricorn on June 11th, 2023, to re-enter Aquarius on January 21st, 2024. Another quick trip backward into Capricorn on September 1st, 2024, before the (dwarf) planet enters Aquarius for the last time on November 19th, 2024. Pluto will continue its journey through the sign of the water bearer until 2043-2044. As with its entry to Aquarius, there will be a bit of back and forth between March 9th, 2043 – the first entry into Pisces – and January 19th, 2044, the final entry to the sign. The next time Pluto will enter Aquarius after that is in the year 2269. So… we have about 21 years of Pluto reforming the same themes this time around. In order to prep for this article, I took months to research the last 4 times Pluto and Aquarius danced together, which happened 1041-1063, 1286-1308, 1532-1553, and 1777-1798. The essay on the past instances alone led to 12 pages of material (in a, you know, shortened form where I only focused on the most important things), which is when I realized that I needed to re-write the entire thing – because no one is going to read an article that long, plus I hadn’t even gotten to predictions yet due to lack of space. So… the next article was over 10 pages… the next also 10 pages, but with predictions… and now you have this, an article under 4k words. Suffice it to say that this is not as thorough as I’d like it to be: not only did I have to pick mainly European history and cut out a bunch of interesting stuff I thought you might like (including references to the earliest timeframe). I also had to skip a bunch of explanations to stay under 4k words, so people would even bother reading this thing in the first place (there will be another article with some of the other stuff I think has to be mentioned, like personal themes, how Aquarius and Pluto even work… heh, I need to write books. More books, that is.) Let’s look at the overarching themes of the past 3 transits and what we can, therefore, expect from this transit right now. But before that real quick: This article took over a year to research and write. If you liked it, I would so appreciate you if you could donate a sum of your choice to support me in doing this work. Also, I'd love it if you could share this with a friend! Thank you so much - I appreciate you. What is known now will be proven wrong This is one of the main themes of the Pluto in Aquarius transit: new, extremely challenging knowledge (Aquarius) will be unearthed (Pluto) in a way that challenges the Powers That Be and transforms our lives. To give examples, Copernicus introduced the heliocentric world model in the 16th-century pass of Pluto through Aquarius – what sounds like a No Big Deal situation today was actually downright heresy back at that time, and dangerous too. At that time, it was “known” in the Christianity-dominated world that God had made the Earth center of the universe and that all that was in the sky was perfect (I’m not stating my own opinion here, just reflecting the beliefs of people at that time). Copernicus directly challenged that in such a way that the authorities that decided what people were supposed to think were under fire. Because now, science (that was at the time in concert with and funded by the Church) said that all the religious authorities told was wrong – and if that one thing is wrong, then what else is wrong, too? Never mind that God was supposed to live in Heaven, which meant that the very seat of God’s power was seen to be challenged (again, not my opinion – trying to reflect what people at the time believed). This was part of the reason the Spanish Inquisition was founded – which also happened in the timeframe of the 16th century. And it’s another part of Pluto in Aquarius: some part of “the known truth” gets massively challenged and changes the way people perceive all of life; some power structures are challenged that were deemed “unchallengeable,” so now there’s a countermovement that tries to suppress (Pluto) the knowledge through bloody and often extremist measures (Pluto in Aquarius). This in turn radicalizes the first group, and there we have a pretty explosive war of ideals. Another example would be that “a country needs a king or it won’t work” – and then, in the 18th-century pass of Pluto through Aquarius, the U.S.A. did it, anyway. Whatever we truly believe is “obvious” in this world, we’ll learn that it was false. New information will come to light, either one that was buried or through scientific discoveries. It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out. New Technologies and Discoveries Pluto in Aquarius was always a time of radical new inventions and discoveries. In the late 13th century pass of Pluto through Aquarius eyeglasses were invented. In the 18th century pass, industrialization started with the invention of the power loom and the automatic flour mill. In all three, people started to discover the world in much more detail and understand the laws of physics in new ways. (I don’t have enough space to do all inventions and discoveries justice, so I won’t try). This time around, it’s highly likely that we’ll see the impact of technology on our lives and probably see new inventions that we normal people can’t even think of, or things so outlandish that we always thought they were completely out of bounds… like teleportation, or something. I also think that we’ll see the shadow sides of all the technology, especially internet-based technology, on our bodies and psyche and be forced to deal with that in a much more advanced way. There will likely be breakthroughs in the exploration of space and also the realm of quantum physics specifically. Plus, it’s likely that technologies around aging and giving birth are going to be under scrutiny, possibly even the subject of new inventions, etc. Medical discoveries could be a giant overall theme. Education and Distribution of Knowledge One of the absolute main themes of the past 3 passes of Pluto through Aquarius have to do with education and distribution of knowledge… and how those were completely transformed and radically changed. In the 13th-14th century pass, universities/colleges were built all over Europe (the first university/college had been built under Pluto in Capricorn’s influence just before this transit, now the idea spread). Under the 16th century, it became increasingly obvious that education had to become secular, too, and not just (in the Western Christian world) dependent on the pope’s take on the bible. At that time, Timbuktu established the first public library which obviously allowed anyone who wanted to have access to certain knowledge to get to that knowledge… and over 200 years later in the 18th-century pass of Pluto through Aquarius, public libraries then started to spread internationally throughout the world. The invention of the lithographic printing press made printing and distributing non-classical literature possible, which obviously made education more affordable. On top of that, the results of the American Revolution and French Revolution were that people outside of the aristocracy could a) get higher education because they were allowed inside places of higher education for the first time, or b) could demand to be let into fields of higher education and fight for their rights to learn. So, education became available to the masses in a much different way in every single instance of the transit. It’s likely that this time around, we’ll see a similar phenomenon in the spaces where education is still limited or only accessible to people of a certain privilege. The 2020-2023 timeframe (of Saturn in Aquarius) definitely showed us where the systems are lacking and where kids and adults fall through the cracks. However, it’ll be interesting to see how this plays out in the spaces in the Western world where education is almost universally accessible… and how much education will become de-centralized away from the public sector and become part of the home. I could imagine that many more parents decide to stay home longer to educate their kids in different ways. War of ideologies One of the best-known timeframes of Pluto through Aquarius was 1777-1798, mainly because this was the time the United States of America defeated the Brits and officially became their own country – and based their country on the most Aquarian ideals of all: equality, liberty, independence, freedom of speech… and so on. It’s Aquarius in a nutshell, and it transformed the world. (Now, obviously the “equality” part had some exceptions, but we’ll get to that later.) The success against Great Britain led to a chain reaction that caused the French Revolution, a very bloody part of history that took the ideals of freedom and equality and a specific brand of humanitarianism and put them above other values, such as not killing children, or just persecution. This eventually led to the Grand Terreur, where the revolutionaries killed basically everyone that didn’t agree with 100% of their own values… even people who were 99% on their sides would be dead, the streets of Paris drenched in blood. In the 16th century pass of Pluto through Aquarius (1532-1553), the translated versions of the bible had been spread enough for people to actually have a basis for questioning the reigning papal authority on a worldwide basis. This was the time of wars between Catholics and Protestants of various denominations, a time for people to die and kill for their beliefs in how the bible should be read and who should interpret them – ideology, in other words. It even got to the point that structures that helped the people, such as infirmaries and charities for the poor were razed down and destroyed, and the people who worked there were often murdered and even tortured because they were associated with the wrong denomination of Christianity… even though the things those structures did was work all Christians agreed was positive. Laws so sacred they were deemed untouchable (like not killing in Churches, etc.) were lifted in ideological warfare. Under Pluto in Aquarius, we’ll always see extremism of ideals that leads to horrific results – but also changes that make the world a bit better. We also see people lose the core of their own beliefs in order to fight for ideals in extremist ways – as evidenced by Protestant Christians who destroyed hospitals for the poor in Medieval times, just because they were associated with nunneries. We also see radicalization in people of different beliefs in general. Whatever makes you different from others and others from you, it’s being highlighted under this transit, and while this doesn’t have to mean that there’s persecution, people are quick to try and eradicate (Pluto) the differences (Aquarius) they see in others and the world at large. In our nowadays world, we see some points of contention already through Saturn passing through Aquarius from March 2020 until March 2023, areas of society that become more and more radicalized. During Pluto in Aquarius from 2023 on, those rifts between people will then dramatically widen. Topics that come to mind are obviously the war, but also movements against discrimination that start to become to be massively discriminating themselves, a movement for equality between genders that’s become (in very loud fringe groups) more and more anti-one-gender. This of course fires up counter-movements that are then very much against the equality groups (and previously oppressed genders), even the ones that are actually still fighting for equality. Movements for political correctness have been accused of blatantly attacking freedom of speech or even opinion, while some of the counter-movements to that attempt to erase differences between human beings and make some people less than others. The groups that questioned governments everywhere since and during 2020 and the people who didn’t have also in many ways been radicalized, and while that subject, fortunately, isn’t as violent of a debate as it used to be, the rift in society hasn’t closed in any way… Pluto in Aquarius is likely going to deepen the rift, even if it acts through different topics. Some governments also used the threat to safety over the past three years to strip people of their rights in ways that maybe weren’t completely warranted, which will likely have long-term consequences we’ll see throughout Pluto in Aquarius. (Others have managed to keep the trust of their citizens even within massive restrictions as they acted with respect and transparency.) I could also see a renewal of the fights between New Agers (which I’m not a part of, btw) and established religions, and also fights between extremist religious and extremist anti-religious groups. Please note that I didn’t say “religious vs. science” groups because religion and science are often compatible. It’s just in the minds of some people that you can’t get them together, and I don’t support that worldview. The good news is though that ideological or belief-based conflicts can also end during this time, too. For instance, upper Canada abolished slavery in the 18th-century pass of Pluto through Aquarius. In the 13th-14th-century pass, the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem fell… and thus, the age of the crusades ended, and with it a very violent part of history. Another piece of good news is that often, humanitarianism does rear its head during those times – and not just in a hypocritical or incomplete way. For instance, in the 16th-century pass, people began a debate on the rights of American and native South American indigenous people. Obviously, that debate didn’t keep the horrors of colonialism from happening, but it did raise awareness and kept some brutality in check. Societal changes Major societal changes have always been subject of Pluto in Aquarius, but we’ll stick to just one example: 1532-1553, England. By the time of that 16th-century pass of Pluto through Aquarius, the bible had been translated into first German, then other languages of the people, including English (rather than being in Latin and therefore, incomprehensible for people of mediocre or no education). Those translations had also started to spread in the population of various European countries. However, up until this point (1532), the effects of that massive scale change hadn’t yet been as dire as they would become over the course of the transit, (1553). At that time of history, the ruling royalty of Europe was universally Christian, as it was said that they held their power position because of God (again – reflecting their opinion, not mine). They were also almost all Catholic, a.k.a. under papal authority (to some extent – and often much to their dislike, as they were often recruited to go to war on behalf of their religion, which they often didn’t want to do). The beliefs at that time were that the people who ruled, f.e. England (Henry VIII for the most part) were sacred – if you were anointed to be king or queen, even touching your body would be a crime punishable by death. There was a time when Katherine of Aragorn, the first wife of Henry VIII, needed medical attention but couldn’t get to the doctor fast enough because her guard refused to take her arm or carry her, as he feared he’d be executed if he touched her. That’s how strong people’s beliefs were. At the same time, some things were absolutely iron-clad for anyone: you couldn’t set aside your spouse (unless the pope himself intervened, which he never did for the Average Joe… and he didn’t do it regularly for the aristocracy or regents, either). Someone who held onto the doorknob of a church had automatic asylum for a fixed amount of time. And part of the Church’s job was to take care of everyone in ways that we, right now, don’t associate with religion. If you traveled (which was of course much more difficult and dangerous at that time), there were usually strategically placed nunneries, abbeys, etc. along the way that allowed for you to rest and sleep safely. If a poor person got sick, they got medical care from nuns and monks. If you were very poor, the nuns and monks would give you food and sometimes shelter, especially as a widow with children and no family to care for you. Clergy often offered education to people and also made medicine from herbal gardens, as well as ale or beer (which at the time was safer to drink than water, as most water was full of excrement and therefore, bacteria). The clergy also preserved knowledge and copied books (the printing press hadn’t been around for very long at that time). So, they had some pretty big social functions as well as religious ones. Then came Henry VIII and, at the beginning of the transit, he decided to switch to Protestantism to publically divorce his wife, Katherine of Aragorn, after 20 years of marriage. This was unheard of – and a huge problem for the general population and women anywhere, because a) women didn’t have any social or financial security beyond the fact that their husbands HAD TO take care of them, and b) now their husbands could legally divorce them. And c) if the king could do that to the queen, who was “anointed by God,” then what could the average wife expect from her husband? Big. Problem. Huge. Especially for people with kids and for women who were orphans or didn’t have enough family members to jump in and care for them if the husband went poof. This problem became even bigger when Henry VIII decided to behead his second wife, Anne Boleyn, though she claimed to be insane. 1) Insanity had always been grounds that made execution impossible, 2) you couldn’t even touch the queen physically before… and now you could chop off her head? Not good for the general wife. If the king’s allowed to do it… Drunkard Jeffrey is probably gonna do it, too. But beyond, in order to be Protestant, Henry VIII abolished and/or destroyed all structures associated with the Catholic church: including but not limited to the places that cared for the sick, poor, the very old, that made medicine, and that provided education. The people who held the knowledge of how to prepare medicine died or were driven out of the country, so people didn’t even know how to make basic medicine any longer. Herbal gardens were razed as much as the nunneries and abbeys. Church asylum wasn’t sacred anymore so there was no safety for people who were wrongly persecuted, for women, or for children. Guess what all of that meant? The general public suffered in unimaginable ways, and the very structures that normally took care of the suffering weren’t there anymore to support them. on top of that, the aristocracy started to persecute anyone who was openly Catholic or had a problem with the political climate. And then came the Inquisition, which was founded in that timeframe, too. To make it worse, the general public had to conform to the religious beliefs of their ruler, which meant that they had to keep track of Henry VIII’s ever-changing religious allegiance (he basically switched with every one of his 6 wives, more or less), quickly switch to the general ideas of the successor, and then become radically Catholic enough to make Bloody Mary happy, who was also the first Queen Regent in centuries. This whole spiel is the reason why so many people from England took the risk to try and get to America to build a nation where they could exercise their religion freely… Because this wasn’t just a topic in England, it was all over Europe, the problem is just that I don’t have time to get into detail here, so we’ll have to keep it short. Anyway, this was all new to the people who lived at that time – that wasn’t their reality before 1532, it only all happened during. And these changes weren’t just ones in England, or this time frame – Pluto in Aquarius changes social realities everywhere in a similar level described here through the example. So, how will this play out this time around? Pluto in Aquarius changes the very things we thought were unchangeable. To make matters worse, at this point Uranus transits Taurus – which is also a transit of changing the things we thought were unchangeable. The next 20 years will likely bring a complete restructuring of many worldwide societies that likely coincide with our perception of freedom, our rights, our education, and our power as the people. There will likely be changes in how we deal with political systems and authority, and a complete transformation of the status quo. We already (at the time I’m writing) live in a pretty extreme worldwide society – humans have never been as disconnected from each other, even while we’re able to connect to people worldwide. We’ve never been as uneducated even though we have access to so much knowledge. We’ve definitely never been as disconnected from our bodies as we’re now… I would guess these things will change. But beyond, it’s going to be a wild ride to predict. I don’t think we’ll have enough information before the final ingress into Aquarius in November 2024. Conclusion In summary, Pluto in Aquarius has always been and will (this time) again be a time of many technological advancements, intense scientific discovery, and ground-breaking societal changes that transformed the way we see the world. It’s also a time where every difference (Aquarius) between individuals and groups in society is going to be amplified and radicalized. This isn’t a time where it’s easy for different people to live and let live, but it’s a time where knowledge, education, and life in general becomes subject of change. Often, people strive for and achieve liberty. Most often, the world is not the same ever again after the cycle.

It can also make you deeply curious and inspire you + deeply & humbly connect you if you are able to process your pain and go into resonance with the pain of the other that is 'doing evil' as that unfelt pain is the cause of all 'evil'. Think about it. Why would it be aggravating or depressing? Only because it triggers unprocessed pain in you and by resisting it, it turns into further emotion. Most of us, including me, take on too much and then overwhelm the nervous system, basically creating micro trauma and making it basically impossible to consciously be with your emotions and deal with external matters. Question is, how big is your nervous systems capacity to face and process pain? That's a slow growth process. Can also be instantaneous. Either way, a lot of times it's easier said than done. Politics can definitely be a huge challenge, like the end boss in healing because all ego/pain corruptions come together: money, power, fame. Still, even here, at the epicenter of the matrix, healing transformation is possible.

Define what you mean by 'bullying'? Is it bullying because Owen isn't being nice, soft, or 'compassionate' with him? Is it bullying to LIE to someone and tell them they are perfect just the way they are...or to give them honest feedback in a clear, direct way that helps them FULLY feel the pain of their situation? True compassion and empathy isn't always nice or friendly. Owen explains in the video that he is trying to get the guy to associate a lot of pain with that old way of being. I'm not a teacher, so I can't say if this methodology is truly effective long term or not. BUT... most people won't ever really make a substantial change in their life until/unless they are in a LOT OF PAIN. This is why there's the memes about hitting the gym after a breakup or going and becoming rich (motivated by pain). Many of the most successful people in the world are deeply insecure, feel like they aren't good enough, and are motivated to try to 'overcome' this belief. Not a recipe to be happy or have self-esteem, but it clearly works for some - watch The Last Dance and look at Michael Jordan's psychology and upbringing. I went to one of Owen's free tour events back in March or so of this year and went up and did these exercises in front of everyone. The main thing he's doing here is pushing people BEYOND their boundaries of self expression and vocal projection. We evolved to want to fit in to a tribe and get SAFETY first, so it's difficult to be loud, confident, assertive, and expressive if you don't feel SAFE in your body/environment. Much of what's happening on stage in these exercises is the person's body is realizing they are SAFE and beginning to naturally be more confident/dominant (aka attractive). As for whether you should put yourself in harsher environments, do you think you would be stronger or weaker after? After facing rejections, would you be more or less confident? All of what Owen teaches is about being INTERNALLY VALIDATED. I love myself because I love myself, NOT because someone else says I'm a good little boy. If someone else doesn't like you, that's fine that's their loss...This is an emotional transformation that must occur internally to get to that place, not just something you can say. Getting to a place of being OKAY with rejection takes going through the rejections long enough until you eventually realize it really doesn't matter and is not a reflection of your self-worth.

Owen cook helped transform this kid, 20 years old, 4 years ago through what appears to be bullying? I'm still debating if this is bullying to be honest because on one hand, it seems pretty obvious that this is a pretty strong form of bullying and harassment even, but on the other hand it's like a form of military training for his ego dissolution to become a self-transformed person, more confident, less scared in the world by exposing himself to harsh rejection. Just look at this transformation. This is him before, about 4 years ago. You don't have to watch the whole thing, although I did. You can skip around to the parts where Owen is talking to him (somewhat bullying him) He said he was watching Owen's videos for 5 years and only ever socialized with 1 person. Almost no action, just a theory junky - In the first video. And this is him about 1 year ago (3 year transformation) I've even seen Owen in person treat his son with 30% of that same bullying that he did to this kid. I took my friend who isnt much into this form of personal development to see Owen and he didn't like Owen at all for how he treated his kid and how much he yells in general. But I also don't think he treated his kid right. Again you can skip around to the parts where he's making the people on stage do exercises. Now I've seen a lot of Owen videos, but this kid's story resonates with me a lot because I too have had a hard social journey, and still have so much to transform. I relate a lot to him. I also sense there's a powerful public speaker in me waiting to come out. I'm wondering, does this form of exposure therapy really work? I mean clearly it did on him, but I mean exposing yourself to very harsh circumstances, often very harsh rejection for serious transformation? Isn't that how the military is able to take weak men and make them into strong men? I've always taken the approach to kaizen, and mastery by george leonard as the path to personal growth, but I'm wondering if I could use some of what this kid got in his life, that is really challenging myself, facing harsher circumstances to make myself stronger, even very harsh rejection to grow myself socially as well? I mean in that first video he is literally getting bullied, having his self-esteem beaten down by Owen, how does that even help? And yet it did? So then is this a pretty solid path for personal development on top of the habits that you do? To challenge yourself each day to do something that really scares you, really challenging environments that scare the absolute crap out of you? Or can one coast by small iterations of exposure therapy. But how strong does that make you really if you don't truly dive into the absolute terror. This video literally has me questioning if I have been living too soft all my life, avoiding being rejected even though Ive socialized quite a bit, Id socialize in ways that are not polar, not truly myself so as not to be rejected so often or so harshly. But now Im questioning if people need to put themselves in much harsher environments more consistently to grow themselves truly.

@Jehovah increases I feel bliss when I expand my awareness and that's what I refer to with "transcending my ego". I do and thank you, learning is key, though that is what I'm doing, I guess my posts is part of the form it takes, an expression of my implicit transformation.

he sounds legit to me. but yeah dating is really fucking not easy. plus he said in the video that successful men don't do traditional dating because it requires too much time and energy, which they would rather put it to work to earn more money. he also said that very successful men work like 80 hours a week. i think here the solution is to have more spiritual values like growth, learning, and self transformation. instead of doing traditional dating just for the sex. plus at some point working 80 hours a week to earn more money is for fools. wise people invest their time in themselves and prioritize work life balance instead of workaholism.

@Rafael Thundercat It's semantics and words that have similar meanings. What you call colonization, and what you described above, contrasting the 2 there, on that later half I refer to and others as a 'soft invasion'. By soft invasion, the other culture assimilates another culture, but through a decades long transformation, slowly changing the original culture in decades and in generations even, in the schooling system, to spreading of religion, to winning small favors here and there, maybe playing the victim to earn sympathy, changing the language, just slow changes over time...until the native majority becomes the minority in several decades. Same tactics were done in Russia and even in China. Of course I am not describing replacement theory, or how the the whites will go extinct as some global elite plans and blah blah. IMO ridiculous theory, it's actually Neoliberals destabilizing the foreign countries which makes immigration much more so, among other factors. In a different context, if you look at 2 crime events, one involves intimidation/threats and even some roughing up, but the 2nd crime is more softer, coercion and blackmail, just soft underhanded methods instead of the violent ones. This is the different between Andrew Tate and some actual serial killer and mass murderer, one's very extreme and the violence is obvious, whilst Andrew's is mostly subtle in how he pimps the girls, how he evades taxes. One's a clear psycho killer, the other a con artist grifter.

@Leo Guracan you clarify in what happened when you tried to capture your transformation to a form of an alien? No one here could take a picture so far in an alternate state where stable hallucinations manifest. I was once close to capture one stable hallucination but I didn't for whatever reason. Up to today I regret about not doing it

Amazon has failed to produce a camera which can record Leo's alien transformation. Such is the spite of the universe. Alternatively, the ever-present non-dualness of the universe is always presently available to be seen and experienced, by any and all cameras. There is no non-dual cockblocking from the universe. All cameras have non-duality built into them by default. Interestingly, I know of schizophrenics who use their phone camera to discern whether what they are hallucinating is physically real or not, and it actually helps them traverse their symptoms. Not a bad tip at all. Some on the forum might benefit.

Let's say you are inside a prison, Psychedelics are like a trampoline, for some moments they let you jump so high you can see outside. Meditation or constant spiritual sadhana is not so exciting, you don´t see much, but slowly you are building a ladder so one day you will jump out of the fence. For most people in the western world where no spiritual tradition has being strong, both are important and complementary. The first is useful to let you see there is a world outside the prison. The second one is as important because is when the work of actually escaping starts. Without the first one there wouldn´t be a motivation to start building the ladder, yet the without the second one all the work would just end in having some experiences or realisations but nothing of real transformation. So jump as high as you can, and once you see all that you need to see, start building the ladder that will get you there for good.

As far as methods to boost spiritual alignment and deepen your experience of psychedelics and life in general, I've found inner body awareness practices to be the most powerful. More specific than experiencing the feeling of your physical body, it's more so a continuous connection with the subtle feeling of your own vital energy. I've known about this practice for many years, but it wasn't until I had a bunch of 5meo experiences that I could suddenly feel the real thing even when sober, which was quite a revelation. The mere act of feeling it is itself transformative, and the deeper the sensation is perceived, the more powerful the transformation. The strength of this practice is in its simplicity. It's non-conceptual, experiential, and in the moment. You make the initial intention to feel it, and then from there you simply just continuously feel it by way of awareness rather than by mind. When done correctly, it's seemingly effortless, and it's more of an uncovering of what's been there all along than an attainment of something new. Consistency in practice at all times is the key to meaningful transformation and growth with the method. The sensation of energy is like a guiding light that can instantly point a chaotic and wayward trip in the proper direction towards a state of being and presence. And of course, it has the same effect when sober. Like anything else though, it gets more familiar and easy the more you do it. If you get too lax in your attention, the full sensation can be difficult to find again for a time. Here's some lines from Eckhart Tolle's book, "Practicing the Power of Now": "To stay present in everyday life, it helps to be deeply rooted within yourself; otherwise, the mind, which has incredible momentum, will drag you along like a wild river. It means to inhabit your body fully. To always have some of your attention in the inner energy field of your body. To feel the body from within, so to speak. Body awareness keeps you present. It anchors you in the Now. The body that you can see and touch cannot take you into Being. But that visible and tangible body is only an outer shell, or rather a limited and distorted perception of a deeper reality. In your natural state of connectedness with Being, this deeper reality can be felt every moment as the invisible inner body, the ani­mating presence within you. So to "inhabit the body" is to feel the body from within, to feel the life inside the body and thereby come to know that you are beyond the outer form. You are cut off from Being as long as your mind takes up all your attention. When this happens - and it happens continuously for most people - you are not in your body. The mind absorbs all your consciousness and transforms it into mind stuff. You cannot stop thinking. To become conscious of Being, you need to reclaim consciousness from the mind. This is one of the most essential tasks on your spiritual journey. It will free vast amounts of consciousness that previously had been trapped in useless and compulsive thinking. A very effective way of doing this is simply to take the focus of your attention away from thinking and direct it into the body, where Being can be felt in the first instance as the invisible energy field that gives life to what you perceive as the physical body."

While your perspective on the nature of desires and feelings has some merit, it appears to lack a deeper understanding of the fundamental distinctions between material pursuits and spiritual practice. Allow me to gently enlighten you. You assert that both materialistic and spiritual desires are merely tools used to achieve a better feeling, implying that they are fundamentally the same. However, this view oversimplifies the profound differences in intent, process, and ultimate outcomes of these pursuits. The quest for material goods is often rooted in the ego, driven by societal conditioning and external validation. People seek cars, houses, or relationships to bolster their self-image or gain social status. These desires are inherently transient and superficial, tied to the impermanent and often illusory nature of worldly satisfaction. In contrast, genuine spiritual practice aims to transcend the ego and uncover the deeper truths of existence. It's not merely about feeling better but about achieving a state of inner peace, clarity, and liberation from the cycles of desire and aversion. Spiritual seekers aim to understand the nature of the mind and reality itself, moving beyond the fleeting pleasure of sensory experiences. Material pursuits are typically linear and finite. You set a goal, work towards it, and either achieve it or move on to the next desire. The satisfaction derived from these accomplishments is usually short-lived, as you've aptly noted. Spiritual practice, on the other hand, is an ongoing journey of self-discovery and inner transformation. It's a process of shedding layers of ignorance and conditioning, which involves practices like meditation, mindfulness, and ethical living. These practices cultivate a stable, enduring sense of contentment and equanimity that is not dependent on external circumstances. The fulfillment of material desires often leads to a perpetual cycle of seeking, as each attainment leaves you wanting more, never truly satisfying the deeper yearning for lasting happiness. Spiritual practice, however, aims at breaking this cycle. The ultimate goal is not another transient feeling but a profound shift in consciousness. When one realizes the nature of the mind and attains enlightenment, the endless quest for external validation and pleasure ceases. One experiences a lasting sense of peace and fulfillment that is not contingent on external conditions. To compare the desire for a hot car with the desire for spiritual enlightenment is to misunderstand the essence of the spiritual path. True spiritual seekers do not engage in practice to achieve fleeting feelings of joy or peace but to uncover the very root of suffering and transcend it. The feeling of serenity you mention is not the end goal but a byproduct of a much deeper realization. Your argument hinges on the notion that both paths are fundamentally the same because they use thought to achieve a desired feeling. This overlooks the qualitative difference between the transient happiness from material gains and the enduring peace from spiritual realization. The mind's trickery, as you put it, is precisely what spiritual practice seeks to unravel, revealing the mind's true nature and freeing one from its deceptions. In summary, while it is true that both material and spiritual pursuits can involve seeking and the use of thought, their intents, processes, and ultimate outcomes are vastly different. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for appreciating the profound depth of the spiritual journey. Perhaps, with a bit more reflection and deeper inquiry, you too might come to see beyond the superficial similarities and grasp the true essence of spiritual practice.

Warning, the following post contains very long sentences, upgrading your awareness RAM is recommended. In this scenario, pride came from addressing core motivations and maintaining composure and awareness while learning how to deal with toxic people. It also came from understanding the core neurosis of their motivation and through continuous good faith, ruling out and confirming the nature of their engagement, ruling out the existence of any constructive criticism and being able to dismiss them finally, not succumbing to their attempts at reducing my self esteem, which throughout my childhood has become eroded since I have always acted on good faith and hence found myself to be solely responsible for any and all misunderstandings and problems. But now my self-esteem is building up much further than its ever been, and I understand that the judgements of others are most often negative self-projections. The pendulum swing towards deconstructing their perspective, engaging in debate, and fighting them off leaves me feeling empowered and it seems I finally learned to fend for myself and take care of my own needs and self-esteem, finally opening up to be positively polarizing with my authentic understanding, likes and dislike, individuating in the process. Simultaneously, I am recognizing that the act of engaging with others who operate in bad faith is itself a rather useless endeavor when their paradigm lock prevents them from any and all discourse which could affect their understanding, and they need a deeper self-reflecting personal experiential transformation to overcome it. But I also simultaneously realize that it's not by job and duty to solve all the world's problems, for me to feel bad about. I understand that any and all neurotic behavior arises out of ignorance, so in truth I cannot even blame them, and it doesn't even make sense to fight them, but experientially speaking I feel like I still need this time and experience to truly integrate and validate my understanding and integrate all the past shame that has been subconsciously building up by my own self-judgement that has been the result of of not standing up for myself. Realizing that, I can shortcut the process and minimize the time I spend being angry and instead transform it into understanding that naturally and intuitively integrates to the degree that experientially the need to react will not even arise. My immediate reaction to pride is that of question, but maybe I should accept it, it points to the accomplishment of setting boundaries, as long as I don't fall into misusing it for fighting worthless battles and fueling resentment. I am reminded of a quote Iroh: Prince Zuko, pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the only antidote to shame. But then again, pride comes in variations. It's a pointer and messenger. I'm getting into the habit of not wanting to feel emotions, since I correlate them with falling into traps, but I do want to feel serenity, joy and other high vibration emotions, I feel like by being as sceptic as I am, I am needlessly stopping myself from feeling them. Help me out here

The Models are just the Intellect Dissecting and trying to Understand it, labels, models, theories, philosophies, writings, blogs, posts on forums, mean nothing is Your inner Experience is low and full of suffering, anxiety, depression etc... I can't tell You how many times I've read somethings on this forum, and from the ppl that post them, thinking oh this person may be on too something, they seem like their on their way to some transformation and perception of higher possibilities, then they post how they are addicted to this that or the other thing, they need advice on nerves, anxiousness, social situations, things of this nature that someone with high levels of Awareness and Experience would never have, boggles my mind...

@Leo Gura does that mean your lifestyle has reduced? - Or you just simply found a way make the same Money every year to keep your desires lifestyle? Is there a place where we use money as a tool for transformation? Rather than growth for the sake of It. Like given that is available what It can offer, why not commit to making a lot without getting Lost in it

Human history has brief times of great transformation that keep becoming more dense and we are just about to enter a whole next level singularity