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Leo Gura replied to Mercurio3's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Most people who use DMT do not go to any singularity, they go to weird alien mindscapes. I don't know why you're hung up on one particular type of trip. -
I had some musings on the epiphenomenon of thought and being a "me" in a body. One question that continually bugs me is why am I me? The slap your forehead answer is: because I'm not someone else. But there's no joy in that answer, the alternative answers fling you down a deep rabbit hole of existentialism. One of those anwers is that the notion of me is just an epiphenomenon. The analogy is like that of a computer, hardware and software. The hardware is of course physicality itself, all those transistors and silicon. The software is the configuration of electrons in that all that hardware; electrons themselves also being physical, but the combinatorial properties of shuffling electrons around is the epiphenomenon of software. So it is with "me". The hardware is the stuff of consciousness, colours, sounds, smells, the software is the sense of a "me" inside a body and being a world. The stuff of consciousness arranges itself combinatorially (in patterns) out of which runs the program of a self. This analogy has a strong whiff of the simulation hypothesis. In a way it is, a "me" is being simulated, as if I were a computer game character; except the hardware is definitely not a silicon computer and the software is not electrons running a program. So what should I make of this fact in relation to asking myself "why me"? The first thing is perhaps the software is such that it has tendency to ask this sort of question about itself, maybe it's completely an epiphenomenon of no value whatsoever; if the software of "me" were to be wiped the hardware would persist and do its own thing. This is just enlightenment from a different angle. Enlightenment is just trying to break the programming enough that these sorts of questions are meaningless, it baldly points out that I'm just software and a frivolous epiphenomenon, and that the "me" can become aware of this. What enlightenment is, is the hardware asserting its authority over the software. Ok more about the question "why me?". What's the alternative? Maybe I would jump from person to person and time period to time period Quantum Leap style. In this scenario some core essence of "me" would remain between jumps, because if it didn't I wouldn't be aware of jumping at all. I say "person" because hardware-wise that is the nearest analogue that would fit my program. If I were to jump into a fly, the "me" program would have a very hard time running. If I were to jump into different persons, then that core essence would bleed into that person's character. There would be a discontinuity in that person. If you go to the literature this indeed seems to happen (walk-ins or possession for example). What about jumping around in time? This should be possible too as an alternative. Again the hardware of consciousness is all-powerful, it can manifest anything it likes. Time period is a very high level concept and involves notions of change. For example to say I could jump into a Victorian gentlement, my core essence would need enough knowledge to realise that this had happened. There is this sense again, that my core essence would have a hard time running say 10,000 years in the future on a foreign planet, so would prefer more familiar time periods. Maybe the idea of familiarity or compatibility is all that's needed. I am "me" and not "you" because if I were to jump around inhabiting different bodies and time periods, they would be too alien and basically incompatible with the software. I stay as "me" in this body because the software refuses to run on any other hardware. Don't get me wrong though, hardware is not materialism, it's not that "me" couldn't run in your body, that's not it, it's because "me" runs on this particular configuration of consciousness. That's the problem with epiphenomenons, they give the air of being detached from the substrate that gives rise to them, but in reality they are the substrate behaving in certain persistent ways. I am consciousness not separate from it, it's just that that consciousness has become configured in a certain way that gives rise to a "me". This begs the question of whether "you" actually exist. Maybe the reason I can't jump from body to body, is that there is in reality one instance of software of "me" running, otherwise known as solipsism. You see the software is programmed to recognise other persons and to reflect that back onto itself. I see two arms, two legs and a head that talks at me, and recognise that as some sort of analogue of "me". So not only is the program simulating "me" it is also simulating "you". Don't confuse the raw conscious experience of a person (hardware), with the experience of seeing your mother (software). The hardware itself does not recognise anything at all, any attempt at recognition or familiarity is all software. All the hardware is able to do is be aware, and it is aware of itself, all the rest is hardware configuring itself into software (like physical electrons running in physical silicon). So we have a picture of the raw consciousness of the world with the singular ability to be aware of itself, and the rest is simulation. Even enlightement can't jack you out of the simulation, because if it did everything would cease to make any sense at all, like turning off the power to the computer (and aborting all running programs). The power of enlightenment is over-stated. So, why me? Because I am an epiphenomenon of a slice of consciousness, that has sandboxed itself. The only option open to me is to modify the program of "me" running enough that the hardware asserts itself more strongly.
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I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details. Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind. My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind. The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge. Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble. The scientists’ religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection. There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious; It is the source of all true art and science. We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality. Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods. When the solution is simple, God is answering. God does not play dice with the universe. God is subtle but he is not malicious. A human being is a part of the whole, called by us Universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest-a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty. Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow creatures as meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life. Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding. Only a life lived for others is a life worth while. The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books—-a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism. The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion. Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank myself among profoundly religious men. The real problem is in the hearts and minds of men. It is easier to denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man. True religion is real living; living with all one’s soul, with all one’s goodness and righteousness. Intelligence makes clear to us the interrelationship of means and ends. But mere thinking cannot give us a sense of the ultimate and fundamental ends. To make clear these fundamental ends and valuations and to set them fast in the emotional life of the individual, seems to me precisely the most important function which religion has to form in the social life of man.
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It felt very alien to me too at first compared to everything I've experienced before in terms of jobs, as well as what I've seen with some other peoples 9-5s, but these types of companies definitely exist, even if they're not all like this. To make it even better, the mission of my current company, again without getting too specific, is basically to help other people escape wage slavery or at least supplement their income through their creative skills. So on top of a good work environment, it feels good knowing that I'm contributing to a company that is actually beneficial to the world, rather than knowing that I'm contributing to some pointless company that just sells people bullshit and extracts money however it can, but sticking around anyway because I need to pay the bills. I think there plenty of other companies like this which you can't expect to immediately work at, but once you develop some decent skills, you can start being picky. The job demand in the industry is insane. I wasn't even looking for a job when these people hired me, it was just one of the many recruiters in my linkedin DMs that I decided to reply to because the offer actually sounded interesting, and they ended up hiring me. Again, I don't LOVE coding, but I really don't mind it and the benefits of doing this type of work/having this skill are extremely valuable. It almost doesn't feel fair to see other people struggling so much to find work, meanwhile I'm constantly ignoring or shutting down recruiters with only a few years of experience under my belt.
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LOL. That sounds so alien compared to the company i am ?? Thanks @InfinityBeats and @impulse9 advice. I Will take into account the good and the bad. Very juicy info helps a lot.
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10.8.2021. 30 minutes attempted vipassana session: thoughts and feelings that came up; Extreme anxiety of not feeling safe and fear of killing myself and dying. Of losing everything I have and everything I know to be. The fear came up of me killing myself in the near future or feeling extremely unsafe in my objectively non-threatening environment that I was going to die and lose everything I know about myself, my identity, my current achievements and level of development, EVERYTHING, FOREVER, and would therefore throw the waste the life that was given to me and all the perks I am enjoying now with it, that I would squander the gift of life and being born in the environment that I am born given to me by my mother and my ancestors, especially my grandfather from my father's side - for whom I'd always almost had deep respect and admiration. Fear of losing all that privilege given to me by my ancestors that I just simply inherited from them. And I felt deeply bad that was one of the main things causing my fear of death and not the fear of losing my life itself as it is and myself as a person that I am and an identity - like I did value my own life and personality enough but only the fact it was given to me by others before me. I felt like a slow state of depression and dying - or to say more appropriately losing myself into nothing. A deeply ingrained and non-resolved complex of inferiority detected that was allowed to fester in the unconsciousness in my psyche? Well, yes it certainly seems that way. Why am I afraid of myself killing myself and why did I feel so insecure about my environment feeling that at any moment it was going to lead to me killing myself? Why so much insecurity and a lack of self-confidence and faith? Why? Why did it feel so tiring and draining? Like I was trying to let go of myself and be consumed by the abyss. Why am I afraid of getting tired and weak? Why do I fear it would lead me to death? What am I anyway? What is this? Why is letting go into dying so contrasted and opposed to the feeling of living and being alive? Why so much fear and resistance? Why am I so afraid of dying? Why does it feel so tiring and draining? I do not want to just die this way. I can just let go of my life now. Why do I feel that the memories of the personalities of my ancestors haunt me? Why do I feel that I am not worthy enough of them with the way I am living and experiencing my life? It feels almost like an unending road of depression, aimlessness, hopelessness, and a lack of motive and purpose in life? Why do life and my experiencing of it feel so bleak and alien to me? Why do I feel like I am an alien to experiencing existence? Why do I feel like an alien and stranger to existence and life? Why does nature seem alien to me and yet I feel bleak familiarity, safety and take comfort in its presence, and have a distinct and unexplainable feeling if I go I will be welcomed in familiar arms, its an unexplainable slight feeling of ease and security and hope and comfort around it. Like it will open me with open arms even if I decide to go now, earlier than I should. Why are so many thoughts of suicidal ideation popping out briefly and then going away? Why do I feel uncomfortable with my present life so much, why do I despise it and hate it so much? 7.10. 2021. Around 10 PM yesterday something. Walking Contemplation Near Trees by the Danube River in Zemun quay, Why do the trees and nature around me feel like the only thing familiar around me despite my feelings of depression? Why does the breeze feels so good, and making me feel like I am a part of the life-world and natural world even though I feel like currently a human person? It feels like even if I wasn't and ceased to be I would still belong there and return there like some long-forgotten home of mine before all these personal experiences, history, and memories. Like a place, I sprang from an intuitive level and I will spring back to once I am no more here as a person. Only my experience of the leaves rustling in the night breeze and of sensing and seeing the bark of trees, of a various different kind, te names of and species of most I which do not know, in the night by the flowing river like a long lost lifeworld to me which I was once a part through which I know now only intuitively through same faint remembrance and recollection only through the intuition of my senses. The surrounding artifacts and remnants of human civilization seem so alien and dry and foreign to me even though I am a part of it experientially all my life and depend on its system for sustenance for me to sustain and facilitate this experience of enjoyment and pleasantness with moving around, observing, sensing and experiencing the pleasantries and smoothness of the natural world in vibrant and alive phenomenology appearing before me. The natural world's pull I sense from time to time is where I feel I want to belong. Yet then why do I feel anatural to myself then? Why do I feel so corrupted and perverted from the natural order? Why do I feel estranged to it, like I was damned not to ever feel it in its fullness by the corrupted and perverted ways of mind? When will I free myself from myself? Nature - the breeze, trees, and the river feel very soothing and calming they feel like a part of me. Does nature want to talk to me in the language I have forgotten and no longer understand? How and why did I allow myself to forget it deliberately and cast it aside as unimportant to my life, which I have brief realizations is inseparable from it even if I fool myself in my day-to-day experience and mind it isn't so? Why did these low consciousness fleeting desires and their brief pleasures and always temporary void filling stemming from succumbing to neediness take precedent over wanting to experience nature in its pure and undiluted form? Why the sacrifice of wellbeing for the fleeting, why the succumbing to fleeting desire and fleeting instant gratification and wish fulfillment, over experiencing life more fully, vibrantly, and lively as much of the time as possible when I make opportunities for it? Why the selling myself short of wanting to take care and retain this experiencing ability? Why lose myself in this transient, temporal, and not lasting for the sake of wish fulfillment and instant gratification and lose out on the serenity, peace, and calm of nature and the natural in attune with it. My thoughts are full, my mind empty. I need to go back to my ancestor's residential beehive building. I will finish this and try to remember more of this later when my thoughts untie themselves around each other, my mind remembers itself and my feelings feel themselves again and not tiredness and burn out. To be continued when my thoughts and memories catch up.
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Mason Riggle replied to Tyler Durden's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Tyler Durden it's all very convincing.. it seems real. Perhaps consider the absurdity of it all.. that there should even be humans, and brains, and memories.. why not other things? Our lives 'seem normal' because we're used to it, but if you had no human experience to compare your life with, all of this would seem completely absurd.. like you looking at some alien species with two heads that vomit on each other to communicate and reproduce by pulling it's own teeth out and planting them in Jello.. if that was your 'normal'.. it wouldn't seem absurd at all. -
Blackhawk replied to Porphyry Fedotov's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I'm open-minded too, but that doesn't mean that I don't require good evidence before I believe in something. But yes it's possible that they are visiting earth. What kind of evidence? Well, better video footage at least to start with, but ultimately the aliens should either reveal themselves fully and let us study their bodies, or we should get our hands on actual aliens or alien space/aircraft. Then I would believe in the stuff. And don't come with the bullshit "we already have them, but the government just keeps it secret." That's just a damn typical conspiracy theory. (This wasn't really aimed for specifically you something_else.) If we are like powerless animals for them then there wouldn't really be a reason for them to hide. Humans don't hide themselves from animals. No reason to hide since they are powerless anyway. -
Blackhawk replied to Porphyry Fedotov's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I have watched the videos for many hours now, have watched about half of the videos. Watching them all takes at least a day I think. So I'll continue tomorrow I guess. I'm not impressed so far, not at all. If someone consumes a lot of specific "information", in this case pro-alien stuff, then it's pretty likely that you start believing in the subject. Basically, the mind gets reprogrammed, and it could be a program which isn't true. And yes I'm not immune against that either, but I go more for real evidence, instead of blurry videofootage and unverifiable stories and shit. Especially this video (which is on your list) is packed with classic hardcore conspiracy theories: For example it is said that Tom says that the conspiracy theory about the moonlanding being fake was created as a disinformation campaign created by the intelligence agencies to cover up what really happened. That what actually happened was that there were aliens in a crater. (From 12:50 in the video). -
The Spaceship Moon Theory, also known as the Vasin-Shcherbakov Theory, is a hypothesis that claims the Earth's moon may actually be an alien spacecraft. The hypothesis was put forth by two members of the then Soviet Academy of Sciences, Michael Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov, in a July 1970 article entitled "Is the Moon the Creation of Alien Intelligence?". Vasin and Shcherbakov's thesis was that the Moon is a hollowed-out planetoid created by unknown beings with technology far superior to any on Earth. Huge machines would have been used to melt rock and form large cavities within the Moon, with the resulting molten lava spewing out onto the Moon's surface. The Moon would therefore consist of a hull-like inner shell and an outer shell made from metallic rocky slag. For reasons unknown, the "Spaceship Moon" was then placed into orbit around the Earth. Their hypothesis relies heavily on the suggestion that large lunar craters, generally assumed to be formed from meteor impact, are generally too shallow and have flat or even convex bottoms. Small craters have a depth proportional to their diameter but larger craters are not deeper. It is hypothesized that small meteors are making a cup-shaped depression in the rocky surface of the moon while the larger meteors are drilling through a five mile thick rocky layer and hitting a high-tensile "hull" underneath.
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@Knowledge Hoarder Wait, do you care about scientific facts or do you care about questioning the materialist paradigm? ? Have you noticed that the people who most desire to disassemble the materialist paradigm are those people that are most unsatisfied with their bodies and their lives? People who want to dismantle the human world and take everyone with them into the clouds of pure thought. The ultimate form of which is either a humble martyr, or worse, a suicidal cult-leader. But that place of pure thought is the place from which we came, and we will return there when our bodies perish. And true masters of the metaphysical self don't go around trying to convert "other people" to non-materialism because they've become immaterial within themselves, and thus there is no need to evangelize, since on the immaterial / spiritual / metaphysical plane of existence, there truly is no "other", and "humanity" is just a metaphor which presents the mind of God in "physical" form. But if you embrace your humanity, then preaching non-materialism is a fool's game which will see you miss out on the beauties of genuine human relationship and genuine human experience, and which will see your human life come and go without truly experiencing this world. Isn't the very purpose of God incarnating as human to live a human life? And human life, from my experience at least, involves quite a bit of material, quite a bit of physical resource. Have you tried fasting? Have you tried holding your breath or avoiding water? Close at-hand reminders of your humanity. My longest fast was 7 days. I can tell you, for sure, that reality becomes incredibly and naturally more psychedelic, and you slowly start to fade from this world. It's a beautiful sensation, but not the purpose of human life, in my opinion. People who are trying to dismantle the materialist paradigm think that they're "saving the world" or something. But if you ask me, this escapism attitude toward humanity and its struggle is not saving anyone but indeed doing the opposite: harming humanity and its home, Planet Earth, by denying the reality of our existence as intelligent apes on a very real and material plane of existence. Of course, everyone is free to choose their path. And if you're not actually human, but instead are an alien, then kewl. But if you're human, embrace it! Sooner than later. I've found much fulfillment in embracing humanity and the physical world, rather than running from it. But to achieve this fulfillment of embracing the material, one must truly accept their humanhood, and thus their eventual human ego death. But once those acceptances are at peace in the mind, then the wonders of existing as a material being truly come into light. Food for thought ??
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Blackhawk replied to Porphyry Fedotov's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I will watch the videos later today but I'll comment about Luis Elizondo: it doesn't matter what he was before, because he isn't a member of US intelligence anymore. So he's not a official. So it's not true that "US military has confirmed the existence of alien craft". Maybe Luis got fired for being a idiot or a tin foil hat, or maybe he quit just to get rich with his scam company To The Stars Academy. I really don't care about people who are "former" something. Their credibility died the moment they became "former". -
Javfly33 replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"Because you think torture is going to mean something bad for your Life therefore you have created a bias against It, however with ice cream you have a bias towards It because culture has created a positive meaning (sugary-fatty) therefore you literally create pleasure when eating It because you have a meaning of intense positive bias towards It. The prove that everything is imaginary is that if we woud Tell you that that ice cream you are going to have is made of excrements of a diseased alien with AIDS, suddenly eating that ice cream would be torture for you. Yet notice is the same ice cream, the same taste, it only went from pleasure to torture once you attached a meaning of negative bias towards It." Its all in the (imaginary) meaning you put into each object ( or person). Have i got It right? @Leo Gura -
well i'm glad y'all are finding enjoyment in the alien thing, happiness & enjoyment are definitely important in life. i perpetually exist in a psychedelic mindset so i def understand the realization of other strange beings existing around us. from my experience, most are angels, but every now and then a lil demon pops up. faith is stronger than fear though, of course. i guess i just don't find the aliens that troll the CIA that interesting compared to all the others
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Leo Gura replied to Porphyry Fedotov's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
That's because you're a child. If you actually listen to their interviews you will see they admit of alien craft. Keep inhaling that copium. -
Blackhawk replied to Porphyry Fedotov's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
No they haven't. They have confirmed the existence of unidentified aerial phenomena. The phenomena on the videos could be a million other things than alien stuff. -
Leo Gura replied to Porphyry Fedotov's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Lol US military has already confirmed the existence of alien craft. You just stuck your head in the sand about it. Videos have been released. And more will come. You cannot record a UFO with a smartphone. Military cameras are barely fast enough to track them. -
Roy replied to Porphyry Fedotov's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Yawn. Prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, then we can talk. There are literally hundreds of millions, billions of recording devices in the world now, most of which are high quality. Yet despite all the "evidence" we haven't had a single legit video or image capture of what is clearly, and inarguably verified as an alien or alien vessel. Even the quality of the releases from the US military is total dogshit. This is just a mass hallucinatory conspiracy theory right now. When we actually do have proof there will be global public hysteria. Which right now there is not because it's clear we don't. -
Blackhawk replied to Porphyry Fedotov's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
That idea is laughable. I don't think that U.S. has possession of alien spacecraft either. I don't believe in that either. -
MuadDib replied to Porphyry Fedotov's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I drive an alien, runs like a dream. -
Leo Gura replied to Porphyry Fedotov's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Why would you expect every major government in the world to perfectly coordinate their disclosures? China and Russia aren't gonna disclose shit because they are basically top-down authoritarian states. European countries may not actually have possession of alien spacecraft so they have less to disclose. EU is not that much more developed. Only slightly. -
most of what i communicate is the recent word given to me, i do not see myself as a spokesperson rather a fearless transmission tower of anything divine i happen across, i am certain most of the time no one else gets it, so i am happy what i said resonated with you ... it is a great gift that you can share your words in vulnerability, being so is alien to me, i am a bit too much stuck in the logical mind
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Holdsworth#Influence_and_reception His playing consists of some of the most alien melodic and harmonic passages you'll ever come across.
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How you treat others makes all the difference in the world. It can change reality. People can change dramatically simply by how you treat them. You can call forth the divine in them, the alien.
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What do Halos mean? ime the 'alien'/ angelic beings I've met which were enlightened would glow with self love. It is a result of turquoise company. Beings 'fill up' with self love and light up when surrounded by higher beings.
