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@Someone here no excuses now. You better be awakened by 40. You know too much now. But you gotta meditate and do whatever it takes now.

I am looking for better ways to verbally describe the experience of Awakening on psychedelics and increasing degree of consciousness. For those of you here with psychedelic experience, I would like to hear you try to articulate how it feels like when psychedelics raise your consciousness up into the Awakened territory. For me it feels like crossing a threshold from not-awake to Awake, but I would like to hear how it feels for you guys. I am trying to capture with a verbal description what Awakened consciousness feels like.

I don't think there's anything outside of consciousness but I'm skeptical of anyone's ability to define it. The hard problem of consciousness in philosophy of mind effectively limited it to just its phenomenal aspect, the "what it's like to be"ness of it, because presumably that's the only thing that materialism can't explain. In doing so consciousness was stripped of an inherent will, creativity, intelligence, etc. Also, deep sleep, which many deeply awakened people have said is another state of consciousness, pretty much negates the definition of consciousness as just "what it's like to be." if you define consciousness just as the screen of perception then I would say no consciousness isn't all there is.

Thank you . I’m happy to explain . The materialist assumes that absolute base reality is fundamentally unconscious matter and energy . And then through some leap ,consciousness arises as an epiphenomena . Assumes is the word because it is speculation . Not certain . the awakened one knows that consciousness is absolute base reality . Because it is self-evident: it’s literally what’s absolutely true in your experience right now . You might ask : but where did consciousness come from ? That question has a simple answer . Any questions and answers about consciousness would be an arising thoughts within consciousness. Therefore cannot encapsulate or explain consciousness because they ARE the very consciousness they try to explain . So consciousness doesn’t have any explanation. Its absolute base reality and can’t be reduced to anything more fundamental.

Frank yang is enlightened the ole fashioned way. So he has that over Leo. But Leo is way more advanced. Bro @Nahm is not awakened.

From a not-awakened state it doesn't help me that I'm it? As our friend said states are temporary and we can't expect a constant high state. Recently I am trying to increase my state in natural ways, but haven't seen much progress. How important are high states even if temporary?

The God awakened mind experiences experiences of religious fervor, complete devotion towards God, and acting on that commitment. God becomes the highest priority taken with intelligence and wisdom. The God awakened mind is highly intelligent, it can create entire worlds from scratch and they materialize. Alien dimensions of consciousness are accessed, you can look at a bird and realize its alien nature. God is seeing as pure beauty, as well as the highest perfection. The intensity of religious experience starts to intensify.

I was wrestling with this philosophical question myself today and while searching this thread came up. There is no inherent value to a person as a first principal. of course it is a social construct. I struggled with self-worth and low self-esteem for quite a while. and the answer that you don't have to earn respect and worth never settled with me. of course people treat you based on a lot of social standing factors. If you want the respect of zoombies you have to earn it. You want human love and sex? you have to earn it. Even on a personal level you can't love and respect yourself if you fail to live out your values and standards. Unconditional Self-love is BS. Unless you're awakened there is no free love.

@Etherial Cat appreciate your words and contributions also. There's a lot of uninspected social conditioning being revealed in this thread. No one can transcend biology or incentive structures. Not even the awakened... I think we are done here. Closed.

Kundalini awakening is the absolute point of no return of the spiritual path. It is the most spontaneous, rapid and dramatic transformation of body, energies and mind an individual can go through. It is when spirituality stop being fun and games. It is when spirituality violently demands to be the absolute and sole focus of your life. Because of this, if one is not prepared for this change, if one is not prepared to sacrifice and let go of absolutley everything - your mom, your friends, your passions, even your spiritual gurus and ideas - i can easily see how kundalini awakening can ruin lives. Therefore I do not promote pursuing kundalini awakening unless you are a serious spiritual practicioner with years of experience. With that said, I have found that kundalini by far is the most efficient method for increasing baseline consciousness - and achieving sober, non-psychedelic induced mystical states. Kundalini works on three levels that increase baseline consciousness; dissolution of conceptual projections onto reality, dissolution of self-identity and dissolution of trauma / energetic blockages. For me, conceptual projections onto reality distinguished itself from the other two forms of dissolution, in that it was a one-time very dramatic shift that occurred, into a temporary heightened state, which left my baseline perception of reality altered dramatically afterwards. I have few words to describe this other than it was a sober-psychedelic experience. I mention this mostly to make people aware of the possibility of actual sober-psychedelic states. I had had 10-15 major trauma dissolutions prior to my kundalini awakening -and experienced 500+ major dissolutions within a matter of 1-2 weeks post kundalini awakening. Trauma dissolution usually happens through conscious and deliberately identifying, feeling and releasing stuck emotions (or thought patterns). The kundalini acts by taking charge of this process, making it a spontaneous event, where trauma is automatically identified and released. Dissolution of self-identity also happens through the trauma dissolutions, hence the two are very closely linked. However I think dissolution of self-identity deserves a mention, since this can invoke some frightening experiences. it i face to face with your own self-image, or the feeling of yourself. It can take many shapes. You will recognize what you perceive yourself to be - and you will see whatever that is, shatter into a thousand pieces. This can be frightening to the unprepared, since it feels like going away or dying. In my experience, these three levels of dissolution are the bedrock and purpose of all spiritual practice. It is because of this, that once Kundalini is awakened, you're on the highway to healthier states of consciousness and well being. What is the prize for going through this seemingly traumatic and frightening process? The prize is life itself. Peace of mind and Love.

My Love for Digital, Alien 2C-B vibes I want to explain more about my love for digital, robotic, alien, 2C-B and DMT vibes. It felt like something was awakened within me in the 2C-B trips I did in July and August. In those trips, I had a lot of auditory hallucinations come up, of robotic, digital sounds. I think I explained earlier in this thread that these auditory hallucinations would happen for a split second and be paired with intense ego dissolution. It was like a yank - a loud robotic beep paired with being pulled hard into ego dissolution just for a second. That happened a lot throughout the 2C-B trips I did in the summer, and also these trips got me a lot more familiar with 2C-B in general, and since doing those trips, it seems to have awakened this love for digital, robotic, 2C-B vibes. I liked that stuff before moderately, but now all the sudden I absolutely LOVE it. There are songs I listen to that have the same kind of robotic beeps, electronic sounds, electronic stutters that I would hear on 2C-B, and hearing them is orgasmic. It sounds INCREDIBLE to me, it's like hearing it pulls me again into those tastes of ego dissolution/being dead. I've always considered myself someone who likes digital, technical things. I've always preferred writing notes on a laptop rather than having handwritten notes. Everything I do is digital. Also, I know a lot of people like natural, earthy substances (mushrooms, mescaline, etc). I like those substances, but I generally enjoy doing research chemicals more, things that feel more digital and less earthy. What I experienced with 2C-B seems to have deepened this love for digital things even more. A big part of what I love about digital, electronic settings is how non-survival it is. I hate the feeling of being an animal, a living being, who eats, sleeps, shits, gets cold, gets dirty, gets body odour, gets tired, all of these things, and all of the suffering that comes with all of that. None of these things occur in digital, electronic spaces, like in a DMT realm for example. It also just feels clean, sleek, often organized, which is more aligned with the way my mind works. I long to be away from survival, to not feel like an 'animal'. It's to the point where it feels like instead of me being a living being with an ego that is going to die, it's like my ego/life is a file on a computer that is going to get deleted. I think that's such a cool way to think about it. I know that the whole digital atmosphere might feel cold, empty and emotionless to some, but it doesn't feel that way to me. You can have the digital atmosphere without those things. To me it feels comfortable, beautiful, sleek, elegant, and like home. I feel like I belong in this setting, and it's incredibly soothing. Again, it's being freed from the hell of survival. It's a lot like the idea of moving to and living in a DMT realm. It can feel very digital and electronic, but there is obviously nothing emotionless about DMT. Here are some of the songs that have electronic sounds that remind me of the auditory hallucinations I experienced on 2C-B. This song is one of my favourites, it's incredible, but I particularly love the part at 2:35, where it has that electronic stutter. This song is insane. The whole thing is filled with robotic, digital sounds. My favourite part is at 2:12. For a second there is a robotic beep that sounds literally identical to some of the auditory hallucinations I have had on 2C-B. It sounds AMAZING. Here is a new artist I found recently. He has a lot of good songs, but this song has to be my favourite. It has this feminine voice sound incorporated into the beat, and it sounds so soft and beautiful. I think this entire song is an absolute masterpiece, and it is filled with digital, robotic sounds as well. It's a really heartfelt, touching song. It's so beautiful it makes me want to cry. It's interesting that both this song and the Russian song in my previous post in this thread, they both seem to combine the feeling, of soft, feminine, motherly love, with digital, alien, techno vibes. I love that combination so much. It's two of my favourite things combined. Here is another song by him with robotic sounds that are identical to what I heard on 2C-B. These sound fucking crazy. Listen at 1:51 and 2:19. I think this song is probably the best depiction from any song of what these auditory hallucinations usually sound like.

Lower neuroticism, higher conscientiousness. Which even though it seems to be correlated with age irregardless, is by the way essentially identical to awakening (perhaps the former more than the latter initially, but the latter could have a slow release effect, i.e. lower neuroticism due to a baseline state change, higher conscientiousness due to a possible value change over time). I tend to talk about how enlightenment is about baseline and awakening is primarily a glimpse where you return to somewhat normal afterwards, but especially your first awakening (especially if sober) should also lead to a significant baseline state change, but it won't necessarily take you all the way as there tends to be more loops to go through before that. That's how many people can start believing they're enlightened even if they're merely awakened because there was a significant before and after. Especially if the awakening was sober, but also if you do drugs like weed. After my first LSD trip, I sat in the woods the day after smoking weed and listening to music and I felt so one with nature and even had slight OBEs while sitting under a tree with legs folded.

During my initial awakenings, I observed sacred geometry and symbols resembling alien code, ancient Hebrew, and glyphs. In deeper states, I perceived the fabric of reality as perfectly interlocked, holographic yin-yang symbols. These emitted a sound similar to windchimes as I moved through them, appearing like a curved holographic screen. My latest awakening, which prompted me to come across Leo's videos while researching Solipsism, revealed a futuristic transistor or node rendering physical matter through my consciousness. I also saw wavy fabric-like holographic grids. I am curious if others have experienced these how they would define them before the memory fades.

I know and love Gabor Mate but at the end of the day that is simply another thesis, model, hypothesis among many others. Meeting other neurodivergent people with ADHD for example and it's like you're interacting with a different species or subtype of human. Have you ever met an awakened person that was also neurodivergent? There you go... Some Kundalini sh!t to be quite honest with you...

I don't think we are going straight to that. I think he said we were going to do some mushrooms first. Bro. I could go straight to the hard shit but I'm gonna follow his lead. He's been doing psychedelics for years and tons of awakenings. He is one of the most awakened on the forum but doesnt post much. So well try it.

The secrets aren't spoiled here. What do you want to know. The awakened are here. Ask away.

@Leo Gura No religious person understands this. If they did, they would wipe their ass with religion and never think of it again. If you own a Bible, you would throw it in the fire if you understood this I found another book from Jaques EllulYes the guy from the Book Propaganda But this other book is about the Subvertion of Christianity As you said. People who listened Awakened being, got what they heard and perverted all the Clarity of the message.

So the highest Truth is love as Being and I need to say this. Leo said that God's Love is Platonic Love, lol that couldn't be further from the truth. Two types of love showed up to me, first was BEST FRIEND LOVE, and then the second was SEXUAL LOVER Love. God created you so it could give you the gift of best friend love and sexual love love metaphysically. When self and other collapses it becomes Pure Being and Pure Being is realized for what it is, the ignorance of opposites. The ego was created so God could know opposites and so God could hide the greatest gift from itself. Life is HELLISH on purpose so the Gift of Heaven its opposite could be completely cherished and understood. That which does not know division, which does not know suffering, can never have the gift of awakening. I now realize that the only point to life is to awaken if you have not awakened you are just wasting time. I mean why would you want to delay the gift of being. Leo also said Reality cannot be improved and this is false as well. The higher consciousness you go the more Reality opens up to the Truth of itself as Pure Love. Nonawakened beings do not live in the best reality they live in the worst reality. Reality improves by raising your Consciousness. The more Conscious of Love you are the greater the experience is. The Kingdom of Heaven is better than any of the stuff you are chasing in life. I thought it was a joke when it was said all you want is love but the funny thing is even that is wrong. You don't want love because you are ALREADY IT. What you want is to radiate love and spread it and share it with everything that can ever possibly be. No other decision makes sense. Only something stupid could disagree with that decision and the funny thing is, since you are the Absolute Truth when that moment appears you realize you would make that same decision every time. You are a warrior of truth and you created the ego to be your opponent. The ego's job was to believe that it was the Truth so it could realize that its whole perspective was a LIE and that everything is just love in disguise pretending that it doesn't know you, and want the best for you.

I find it interesting and frightening at the same time that there is a possibility of having a sudden intense Awakening experience sober that is equally profound when taking a psychedelic. To be honest, I never thought it would happen to me. Today I woke up from sleeping, at which I had a dream of me living a totally different life for decades. When I suddenly woke up, I couldn't bear the reality that it ended and now I'm in a different reality. The thought of neither one being less real in my mind triggered an Awakening experience which led me to recognize that this reality is a dream through and through. I was swimming in pure NOTHINGNESS and EMPTYNESS for a minute. The distinction between my nightly dreams and waking reality was TOTALLY unimagined. I was left ALONE, because I am DREAMING the dream that everyone is part of. Endlessly Melting! Too profound! The realization that no one has truly awakened or will ever wake up other than myself is truly shocking!

I've awakened.

I watch Frank Yang on Youtube sometimes and everytime I watch him on Youtube I access his Consciousness and it feels so empty. Its funny when he describes his awakening and his whole process to me of all the levels he went through etc. its hilarious to me because when you awaken you can just access his state. Its funny to me because all that hard work he did to reach that particular state and then I can just watch him on Youtube and basically trip on his Consciousness is hilarious to me. His so called Enlightenment is different than mines. Mine is simultaneously empty and full at the same time. Like an empty container that has movement within it. But his? Its just straight up empty period. No movement at all. This is the video I was watching but it happens on the other vids he has as well. So for me I can actually tell a person's level of Consciousness by just tripping on it like a drug lol.

I think people who are into religion are not awakened at all. The nature of consciousness cannot be understood with consciousness ( and it can, but not in the way people expect )

In my experience Benthino is not a bad guy, but idk if he is awakened. Tried some things of his. There is the truth somewhere, but not much radiance as i would feel from a traditional hindu advaita guru. Now what he does with the influence and power that is none of my business. Anyone who teaches consciousness will have problems in the society.

I never saw this one; watching it now, I'm enjoying it and can relate to what Leo is speaking about so much. I actually shed a few tears while watching this. Has Leo awakened to being God? Yes, many times. Don't call them aliens; they are GOD just as you are. To actually make mistakes on purpose is so ingenious, right? Infinite intelligence Consciousness is profoundly smart; it makes mistakes on purpose. Arguments: you're all better than that humans; grow the faken up. I have said something like this before: intelligence only comes from intelligence to the point that you have to dumb yourself down so much in this dream.

The word "Dream" is another way to refer to a loose clan in Gaelic believe it or not. "Plant" is Latin, though its somewhat relevant to the word "clan", granted that it comes from Gaelic/Old Irish "clann". As then there's "sìol" meaning "clan as the seed/lineage of a specific founder", or even more directly "cinneadh" is Scottish Gaelic for kindred (kin) tribe or people (literally "ceann", head + "cinnidh", of the kindred). A clan specifically as descendants of one of your ancestors, would've been "fine", or "tuath" is a clan as a people occupying a land. The word "dream" collides w/ the unrelated Irish word "taibhreamh" (sleep-dream) and, more annoyingly, w/ the English word "dream", so most results will show the English origin of the word, even though, if im to understand, theres atleast 2-3 different words that look like "dream" (Gaelic "dream" is closer to "dhr'am", as there's no /ea/ diphthong) But going back to dream, as in sleep dream, ὀνείρατος, its opposed to a waking vision / reality, "bi a' bruadar" in Scottish Gaelic, "to be sleeping", point being, theres several words and terms for a dream (sleep-dream) followed by several definitions. Technically reality is a kind of dream, but its different enough to make it distinct. Its the opposite of what happens while asleep, you gain control and you lose that sense of "anything can happen" happening, though its possibly easier from the point of reality, to understand it. Consider that, no one feels like theyve awakened from "reality" after theyve fallen asleep, like no one says "i finally understood reality, after i woke up ... in my dream" -thus its rare enough to point to what im tryina say, which is that, the sentiment of *waking up* can be more easily accessed while awake (prior to falling into a dream). And when i say "dream" it could mean many different things. Daydreaming could be a dream, or any cyclical thought could, As you can feel it in your head when the felt dream is becoming a real dream (inb4 "nodding off") To understand dreams, and thus, to understand waking reality, is to understand all the folded strands that equate to that sense of dreaming, what it means, what it could mean... As reality is the assumption that you "think your in control", more so than a dream. That is, to understand anything is to understand all the strands that make it up, in its vast, multi dimensional stage of possibility. p.s. this is part one of atleast a two part discussion, so, expect more, but it wont be this early... itll be after midnight when everyones asleep.