theleelajoker

I believe it's the guy selling bananas down the street 🍌 So I don't claim to know, but my experience points to the same thing a million people before said: Don't think about the answer. Silence seems like a good place to look

I see your point. I would not point to (only) genetics. Whatever it is, it's more concepts and identification. That being said, the most convincing and most likely theory is this: It depends on the amount of rain drops one has experienced in the body in his lifetime: Even number - you need a teacher. Uneven - you don't need one. What makes sense re teaching is this: - You seek out a teacher because u feel like you need one. So you become a student - Any teaching from any teacher would then primarily focus on one thing: allowing, promoting experiences that make the student realize that no teacher is needed - Teach as little as possible, as short as possible, with the ultimate goal to feel others from the believe of need for teaching. Enable others to set themselves free on their own Alan Watts said sth similar re psychotherapy: As long as you believe you need therapy, you DO need it. In this context I also remember him joking about how he tries support people around him by freeing them from the believe that they need to improve 😄

Fully aligned with my experience 🙏❤️

Why should anyone have need for a guru? There has been a first person having last life if we follow this logic. Who was his guru? Need for guru, or the believe to do so is for me rather sign that you're still far away

This was in my mind a while. I think you have a point. Probably the spectrum is increased in both directions. More sensitive less sensitive at the same time

@Eskilon I influence my situations, obviously. As much as I can, as much as I am aware of my actions, I do it openly, expressing my intentions and state. Or correct my actions as soon as I become aware. As posted before, different definitions influence/manipulation for me. Does it always work like that? No. Sometimes I am not conscious enough. Shit happens but I don't like when I noticed that I manipulated others, or tried to. @Natasha Tori Maru yeah with work I get you, it's most of time a organized hierarchy and you often need some decision making power to be efficient. "I am attempting to give them the energy they need at the time" -> would have said the same earlier. Now I focus more on just expressing myself. The last paragraphs you wrote and your signature don't seem to align. Just my impression.

@inFlow @Breakingthewall Thx your replies. I have similar experiences and impressions. For me it seems to be a lot about letting go of conditioned practices, rules, patterns etc. Literally gaining liberation by being and acting more and more free in this world. Curious where this will lead to. Wishing you (and all others) the best and lot's of fun on the journey! I neglected that a long time but the journey and this world here is supposed to be fun here, isn't it? At least I hope...

Knowing this, what keeps you here?

@inFlow I am very curious. How do you come to this conclusion? I kind of have a similar idea, there were two moments in my life where I felt that I dissolve, that I leave the world if I completely let go now. First time I only got scared. Second time I got scared and I clearly felt the one thing I am attached to, the one thing keeping me here. (Was scared to never see my gf again) First time I was on weed other time simple meditation. Since then I ponder if there is indeed an exit door I can take.

I think that's a story you tell yourself to protect yourself in some way. I think it will bite you in the ass. If you steer people im any way without being asked to do so, it's selfish. You do it because you want people to behave in a certain way, you think you know what's right for them. If people ask you for direction it's not manipulation anymore it's a question and you answered

He said nadis and meridians are "real" and chakras superimposed as symbols. His source are ancient texts he studied. I am with you re being full of shit myself or others being full of shit. So I become more careful what I express or believe - it will change anyway. Anicca, anicca Re chakras etc: I did not study these texts, so don't know. But the texts could be full of shit, right? Also, I am not on a level to confirm or reject based on personal experience. Just pointing out his POV and how easily things can be misunderstood or (unintentionally) distorted. There's a quote: "All models are wrong but some are useful" Problem is when you are so attached to the model that you believe it's reality. Chakras are one thing. I see this also a lot with spiral dynamics for instance. Don't mistake the map for the landscape...

In my experience, you have to difdifferentiate between two things: "Low Level" people you hear and read from Media etc without ever having direct experience Your own real life, first hand direct experience with such people in your personal life For everything concerning No.1 - whenever possible, I tend to to ignore it as much as possible and focus what's right in front of me, my direct experience. And when I engage with such people you describe in direct communication, and take just a little time and curiosity, non- judgemental attitude, and really listen, something interesting happens: It's impossible to not understand them. Because they open up. They not only tell theirs views their ego has taken (racism, religious dogma) but also why it they have taken this view. And it's always logical (psychological - the name already contains "logic"😂) Sometimes I was about to leave a conversation, then suddenly the person added just one more piece of information and everything clicked. Context matters (1:1 is different then in a group e.g.) and I am not always in the mood, or equanimous enough. But sometimes I am just curios about people and then magic happens 🪄

@Salvijus Maybe different experience for different people? You have a point re ego and attachment, that's sth to be careful about. It's funny because I saw a video lately from a guy that studied eastern practices and philosophy and seemed to know what he's talking about. He talked about Nadis and Chakras. He critized the western adaptation of chakras, saying they are not real but "superimposed" just symbols to believe and focus on. Now every time I hear people saying "oh it's your this and that chakra" I can not help but think of that. He also said "believes are not right or wrong, but helpful or harmful". Reaonated with me. So seems a slippery slope with believes, spiritual ego, identification etc So only thing that matters is how it feels for you personally - but believes influence how you feel so we go full circle 😂 I think it was in this video https://youtu.be/3ODfwJBDgBs?si=iyK7Noe_3A5fv9xJ

I agree with the general idea. You kind of "negotiate" cooperate, create a win-win. But in my experience it doesn't work that easily. Can't change my belief system just by telling my self things. Only in deep meditation states, then this happened more or less automatically by relaxing and simply being present. Now slowly it goes from "I have to meditate" to "Cool I mediate". Took me quite some time, though. For me: It's the experience that shapes the belief, not vice versa. Otherwise: just believe that you're happy, that there is no resistance at all, that you and the world is full of love etc. So first make your believes (blockages) conscious, then you are free to change them. So much my experience - I am open for other arguments and experiences .

First part: Ok get the idea. I once became unconscious, step by step everything became darker and darker before my eyes. Then it was all black and then the "blackness" disappeared, turning into " " ( " " meaning--> nothing, non-experience) Second part: Lost in words. Lost in abstraction and definitions. If you still have the patience - can you give a concrete example? For instance, "I walk down the street and this and that happening is the change, the reflection, perspective..."