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6 hours ago, Username said:@tuckerwphotography This is all dependent on definition you are using.
I would consider someone yellow if they are able to understand system thinking. Green will almost always dismiss yellow explanation if it consists counterintuitiveness (things going full circle) and will say that I'm contradicting myself. If you are able to understand Yellow resources you are Yellow to me, even if you are just "10% yellow". I think that Ken Wilber uses same definition and this is why he gets 5% of Yellow population (which is still very generous..).
You can also rate people by embodiment. Maybe that's a definition used in SD books (I have yet to read them) because SD is used to describe culture rather than single person. In my opinion the issue is that you will be "fully" Yellow when you are about to make a transition to Turquoise
@Username Thanks for clarifying. I tend to determine one's stage (as well as my own) via "center of gravity." Which stage has the highest percentage of one's gravity? I'm not sure why only having 10% Yellow would make someone Yellow, since we could also say that same person has 10% Orange, but we wouldn't consider them Orange. Let me know your thinking on this.
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18 hours ago, Username said:@Hyacinth Leo is too humble He is probably in a stage that is higher than Turquoise. I guess he has means he has still some elements to embody.
@Username From my POV, Leo is not "higher than Turquoise." He's exactly where he says he is: mostly Yellow and moving into Turquoise. Just because one has awakened to Stage Turquoise or Coral insights does not mean they are actively embodying that nor are grounded in that stage. Building Leo into some false god feels unproductive and dangerous.
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@Hyacinth Read a ton of Stage Yellow content, books, podcasts. Study all the various maps of developmental psychology. Consider integrating your stage Blue shadows via a mystic branch of the religion you were raised in. Christianity? If so, check out Richard Rohr, a great stage Yellow Christain mystic.
I wrote a bit about my journey from Orange to Green to Yellow, if you're interested in reading: https://tuckerwalsh.medium.com/a-map-for-my-younger-self-bfa1dcd22243
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2 hours ago, Thetruthseeker said:Stage green jobs would be more obvious to me. Working at a vegan cafe, ayahuasca retreat centre, meditation place, charities
but where would the stage yellow jobs be…. Systems analysts? Ha
Coaching, guiding, consulting, therapy, some academia, some tech industry sectors, some business / corporate training or advising, transpersonal psychology, content creators like Leo, Rebel Wisdom, Integral Life, etc.
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Have you seen the movie Soul? It's basically about this topic. Amazing film (don't overlook it just because it's animated).
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5 minutes ago, Mu_ said:Not from your living experience, but there are beings of awareness that do experience a much broader understanding and experience which includes more then just a single "human" view. That said, just live your life in a way that is kind and not looking to hurt others and it will go pretty smooth in terms of wondering how you should act or be.
@Mu_ Will do. Just to share, from my understanding this seems to contradict one of Leo's central teachings, which is that what I am experiencing right here right now is all there is. This is the entire Universe. There is nothing else except what is in my direct experience, whether that's a "human" view or anything else. Is this a misunderstanding of Leo's teaching?
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6 minutes ago, Mu_ said:No that includes not just "you" right here right now, but everything right here right now. Your looking at this from the point of view that "you" are the only now. Now is the only Now, and the window of experience you call "you" is thinking its just it and nothing else.
@Mu_ Thank you for your response to my question. I'm still not clear though and wondering if you can help clarify. Is it correct to interpret what you're saying as, "The awareness that is experiencing this present moment is not aware of other present moments happening elsewhere?" Apologies for the confusion.
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2 hours ago, Mu_ said:The best way I can answer this for you is if I were to cut off your penis would it hurt, would you be left with the pain and difficulty of what that means your life from that point on?
@Mu_ Yes, but that example involves me, which is right here right now. I was asking about somebody else like my cousin in Georgia. If he gets his penis cut off, and I don't know about it, did it actually happen?
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2 minutes ago, The0Self said:That you should know all there is.
That this is in (or at) an exclusive “here and now” as opposed to some other here and now.
@The0Self Can you clarify these two points? Not sure I'm following, but I sense they're important. Thank you.
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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:Well, to understand this you would have to become conscious of what "other" is.
You might be shocked to discover that "other" is your own imagination.
@Leo Gura I guess the question is whether the "other" as a figment of God's imagination can experience suffering outside of the direct experience that is right here right now. Or the simpler question, is there anything other than what's right here right now? From how I've understood your teachings as well as my own insights via psychedelics, the answer is perhaps no. But I could see how that knowledge could lead to some twisted places, or at least twisted in the construct of what society deems to be twisted. Or twisted in how the ego hijacks this absolute truth and uses it to reorient life in a sociopathic way. Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding something.
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I have had the thought run through my mind in the past that goes something like this: "This is all a Dream, and all that exist is in my direct experience right here right now (as per Leo's Guided Exercise for Realizing You Are God video). Therefore if I kill myself there will be no family and friends that I leave behind who will grieve me because they are just an illusion, and they will cease to exist once the dream of Tucker dies. Therefore, my suicide will not cause any pain or suffering because there is literally no one else to experience this pain and suffering."
A part of me still wonders if this line of thinking has aspects of truth or not. I'm sharing this so that it can be discussed and hopefully clarified rather than me just repressing these half-baked ideas into my shadow. Thank you.
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15 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:This is ENTIRELY up to you. You are (literally) free to do or be anything you set your heart upon!
@RendHeaven I know, that's why I'm asking Leo because I want to know what advice myself would have for myself
But thank you for your reply and appreciate your words
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@Leo Gura I've realized God Consciousness a couple times via psychedelics in the past year. Your latest video helped reaffirm this experience. Thank you
1. What does one do after they've realized This but are not stabilized in any "nondual" state typically associated with Enlightenment? Should I even pursue classical Enlightenment at this point, or is that just more illusion?
2. Are there other teachers who speak of the same Truth illuminated in your video? Ramana Maharshi? Nisargadatta Maharaj? Any modern day teachers you could point to (besides you)?
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8 hours ago, Moksha said:I had never heard of spiral dynamics before joining the forum. My immediate instinct was that it is just another puzzle trap of the egoic mind. We want to gauge our spiritual progress, against some model, which is such a joke from the ultimate perspective. Stages are nothing more than cloudy staircase steps within the dream.
Yeah but it's fun. Let us play!!
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17 hours ago, Nahm said:Jesus seemed like a good reference as he neither tried to save the world or himself, from what I gather. Movement is an appearance, repose points to the ineffable appearing. One or the other is not the best of both worlds, equanimity makes the middle way of ‘them’, or rather, a ‘you’.
@Nahm Thank you.
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@Nahm I've been pondering your contemplation via Jesus, and honestly I'm not sure if it's fully registering. I do find that funny actually but probably not for the reasons you meant Do you mind restating or expressing in a different way? Thank you
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@cigologic Love Fred! Hoping to book an Awakening Session with him. Really enjoyed his 12 Steps book.
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7 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:There is no conflict here. All of this is yellow
@RendHeaven Yeah just to clarify, I'm not talking about trying to "get" to Turquoise. I don't claim to be anywhere near there yet. It's more of a conflict between the Strategist stage and Construct/Ego Aware (using SCG model).
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I've been wondering recently if the map is creating my territory. I first got into Spiral Dynamics, Ego Development, Integral Theory, etc a little over a year ago after an out-of-body mystical experience that somehow transitioned me into early Yellow. For the past year I've diving head deep into all these maps essentially putting myself through developmental psychology school. It's been fascinating, and I'm super passionate about it. But after several God consciousness psychedelic ego death experiences in the past year, I found myself in the Construct/Ego Aware stage which has been illuminating yet certainly destabilizing.
I have a story that I need to "work through the Yellow / Strategist stages" before I can/should further focus on awakening. But I'm starting to deconstruct all these maps and wonder how much of them are creating my reality vs guiding me through actual reality. The challenge is I feel I have one foot in two worlds: one in Yellow that wants to focus on mapmaking and solving all the existential problems in the world while further self-actualizing, and one foot in the nondual world that wants to focus on deconstructing everything that's creating this "I" story and fogging deeper awakenings.
Perhaps I can do a little bit of both, but in a sense they seem like polarities - one is constructing and the other deconstructing.
Is staying identified with the ego and spending a year or more deepening into Yellow a worthy pursuit, or will I just be adding more shit to my bag that I eventually need to let go of? And if so, what's the point? Is the map, at this point, simply creating my territory? It certainly feels like that, at times. Grateful for any advice or guidance.
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2 hours ago, Nahm said:By definition in the usage here, it is a stage. What about when there are no stages?
@Nahm BOOM. Mic drop
I guess when "I" experience there being no more stages I will stop asking these types of questions
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16 hours ago, Flyboy said:A specific request would be for you to soften the tone of authority; if you look at your own progression you went from the "eager explorer" to talking as a "master"; in other words, you basically always speak as if from above. Even if true, people pick up on this. It's super hard to convince people who don't have a clue why you are "above" to accept your authority as fact. It appears like spiritual narcissism. I think the best and most truly developed Master would be humble and soft, knowing that their grace and wisdom would shine through. Masculine-style love only works when there is established trust, and you don't automatically have that with strangers.
An easy way to do this is to switch from “you” to “we”. For example, instead of saying, “You have no what the nature of reality is” one could say “we humans often have no idea what the nature of reality is.” It makes it inclusive and doesn’t presume that one knows everything about the person watching. It feels invitational rather than confrontational. Could really help in softening the delivering, though I’m not even sure that’s Leo’s intention...
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3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:And they are all right. You should save yourself, your religion, the economy, mother nature, humans from themselves and many more things, if you want to live well.
Does it matter to God? No. But who gives a shit what matters to God? You're playing the game of life now. So at least play it seriously.
Transcend and include
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1 hour ago, SgtPepper said:Got multiple perspectives on this.
Existentially - No. There's no one to save. or in another light, it's already been saved.
Practically speaking - Yes, but its you who has to save your own world, and that's how you save everybody.
@SgtPepper Who is the "you" (the personality?) and how do you define "your own world"? Thanks!
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