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31 minutes ago, Vrubel said:People here are so childish and unintelligent. I can only respect reasonable arguments, not whatever I am seeing here. Militarily, Israel is conducting this war brilliantly. The monster needs to be fought for the sake of everyone even if it's hiding beneath hospitals it will get no immunity that is how it should be. Godspeed IDF!
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Thank you for this.
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12 hours ago, Lila9 said:I scrolled through Al Jazeera Channel on YT to see if there is mention of the October 7 massacre in Israel. There was no mention of it except a video showing sky with rockets from Gaza towards Israel and people happy in the comments 🤦🏼♀️
Definitely a highly biased channel.
12 hours ago, Lila9 said:There is even no mention of the videos Hamas terrorists filmed during the attack on October 7, showing their crimes.
No mention of the Israeli hostages, no mention of Hamas locating themselves among the civilians, no mention of Hamas keep lunching rockets on Israel during this entire time.Actually crazy.
12 hours ago, Lila9 said:Later I discovered that Al Jazeera is used as a direct propaganda tool of Hamas, it is loyal to Hamas' narrative only.
It's interesting that Al Jazeera center is located in Doha, Qatar, the same place Hamas leadership is located.Not surprising.
12 hours ago, Lila9 said:There is an interesting read on Wikipedia about the criticism of Al Jazeera. The main critic, obviously, is their pro-Palestinian, antisemitic and anti American bias.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism?wprov=sfla1
This is probably the most censorshiped news channel in the world. It's hilarious that people in the west take Al Jazeera so seriously.
I remeber now how this channel was biased also in early 2000's during the 2nd Intifada when suicidal bombers exploded buses and restaurants in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv 1-2 times a week and sometimes even more, killing 1,100 Israelis during all this period.
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8 hours ago, Lila9 said:It's nothing compared to Hamas raping girls, beheding babies, burning people alive, cutting organs of living people, taking innocents as hostages. Do Al Jazeera mentioned this either?
👍 All the attempts here to make even a clue of 1% of symmetry between Settlers and hamas are so absurd.
99% of the settlers aren't violent at all and cannot hurt physically anybody.
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@Hatfort Sorry to disappoint but all the bombing you talk about is mostly gone and now this is mainly a ground operation.
hamas is also a big cause to the lack of food and water. Did you know hamas even took medicine equipment from hospitals and pain killers for itself? You think hamas is stupid and thats your problem. It is much more smart and psychologically manipulative than you think and you are falling prey to its hands.
I am not saying Israel doesnt have to be more surgical and accurate in its actions but the western world is so naive and can't see we are dealing with a clever virus and not just a stupid suicidal animal.
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7 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:I’m not really buying your new explanation. If it’s not 100% equal to Jews, it’s not equal.
You are free to think and interpret this however you want.
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22 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:French president Macron calling for ceasefire
He took his words back (to some extent) the day after that and emphasized again his support for Israel.
Calling to a ceasefire and doing so is Immoral as long as 239 hostages are held by hamas and the pressure on him is necessary, as long as we know that ceasefire will only make hamas in a better position tactically, and as long as local humanitarian breaks are already happen every day anyway.
Conclusion: No ceasefire is justified.
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No.
What I meant is that even though officialy there is equality (and there is) human beings are still human beings, and under the radar some discrimination can happen from time to time and there is probably some amount of that if we want to be realistic. Thats why this is not 100%.
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7 minutes ago, Lila9 said:It's probably gonna be in the hard way, very likely.
To get to the integration of Red it requires some shadow work and I don't know if it will happen soon. Most people don't care about such things.
If they keep their attitude, it will get into them through the back door.
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1 hour ago, Lila9 said:Horrible, unbelievable that naive people in the west justify this barbaric behavior.
"Freedom fighters" lol.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzlReclo1z0/?igshid=NTNwaDdrcDkxZWFl
They have democracy from birth and they got bord. They need now to integrate their red. Not anything rational, this is just stronger than them. Good luck for them to learn the hard way.
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51 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:The Nazis wanted all Jews dead. Hamas only wants all Israelis dead
No this is crazy. Think what you want.
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6 minutes ago, Lila9 said:If you don't understand the difference I don't know how I can help you.
This is like justifying nazi germany. The argument is pointless when someome does that. Just to move on to another topic where in a serious and mature debate is possible.
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5 minutes ago, zazen said:So the world is lower in consciousness and higher values than Israel?
And that’s why they don’t ‘understand’ Israel - because they haven’t grown up to its level?
Part of the world! But a big one.
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The reason why ONLY now the world is so noisy but not in other wars is precisly because Israel's relatively high values and consciousness. The real issue here is the great system resisting a growing up process trying to happen. All the rest - backward rationalizations.
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@Lila9 The more people resist, the better. This is the system pushed to a corner trying its best to go back to its familiar unhealthy homeostasis as it feels its foundations being shaken. The enormous resistance we see these days is the best indication to a good change just behind the corner. Growing up HURTS but this is how things work. Israel just have to keep going with a deep self trust. This is Israel's real test.
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1 hour ago, Buck Edwards said:I suggest that Israel stop the killings of children. If Israel really wanted a future for these children, they would have already had one. They could have kidnapped the children instead of bombing them. They could have easily transported these children to other safer places in the world for their future. Everything is possible if there's intent for it. Hamas is nothing but a terrorist organization. It won't be as big as Russia. Israel can take care of Hamas. The war is never for Hamas. No terrorist organization has the funding of a country. They can hardly kill anyone, at least not 10,000 children. They can carry out terror strikes but it won't destroy a whole nation the way a war does. Are you going to tell me that a powerful country can't deal with terrorists given the technology that we have today? That would be a joke.
All of that has been proven to be wrong in october 7th while before that you maybe would be right.
Keep in mind that without bombing before, IDF would be sitting ducks in front of hamas fortifications prepared for IDF for years what would make hundreds of soldiers getting killed in Gaza by now.
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5 hours ago, Lila9 said:This is very far from being the case, there is no genocide or ethnical cleaning done by Israel. War crimes? Yes, there are no wars without war crimes. There are also war crimes done by Hamas, more severe ones. Are you going to ignore that?
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5 hours ago, Lila9 said:What about the constant abuse Hamas do to Israel by suecidal bombers? Hamas who killed and tortured bodies of innocent Israeli people? What about the estimated 50% of Palestinians who support them and celebrated when they did the massacre? What about the Palestinian children who are being taught to hate Jews and to kill them instead of studying Math and English? What about Hamas who use Palestinians as human shields and throw gays from the rooftops, who's their wet dream is to ethnically cleanse Israel from Jews to build a Palestinian dictatorship instead?
Frustrated freedom fighthers
1 hour ago, Buck Edwards said:So some ignorant child celebrates Hamas in the street, in your opinion the child deserves to die?
I want them to have a future but they won't have one if hamas stays in charge. tricky. So what do you suggest?
1 hour ago, Buck Edwards said:They had too much time on their hands to destroy Hamas completely and they do have all the intelligence and funding they need
How can Israel destroy hamas without civilian casualties in your opinion?
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12 hours ago, Lila9 said:The IDF military is unique in its consciousness level. It's a unicorn in the middle east and perhaps in the entire world.
Edit: oops I thought you meant to the spokesman I got confused because of the video under your massage. But any way I agree.
About the spokesman I saw a report on him about how he is connected to his brother who has special needs (I don't like this term becasue everyone has unique challenges just not as visible but anyway) and how he cares about him and helps him. The report is in hebrew, I try to find a translation but for now just take a picture to illustrate his very humane side.
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@Buck Edwards In israel they are an extremist minority.
In Gaza and among the palestinians this kind of values are very commom and (part of) the norm.
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A brave woman in Gaza speaks her feelings:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzcAsbavq4z/?igshid=MWp6ODk4NWpwZzJrZw==
I see those young men in the backround and I really feel I want a future for them, and obviously hamas will prevent from them any chance of good life if will still stay in charge. It must be eliminated.
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On 10.11.2023 at 1:02 AM, Karmadhi said:You need to understand that in the eyes of Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims and even most of Western liberals Israel started this by kicking out 750.000 Palestinians and murdering many during the Nakba. EVERYTHING after that is a response to it.
If you steal my house then do not be suprised if I attack you back, I am not provocing you.
All the territory taken by Israel after 1947 UN creating Israel which the world agreed upon (mostly) is pure theft and people have the right to be angry about it.
You can make the argument that the Jews should have a state there but the territory granted to you by the UN is that of 1947, any territory on top of that is land you stole illegally. Kicking out 750.000 people is proof of that. You do not kick out that many people if the land is actually yours.
I understand that part of the world sees the things like that, but in reality, both sides found themselves caught up in a war, and which for what I have read and know, started by the arabs who resisted the UN partition plan.
I am not expecting the muslim world to see the picture in the favor of Israel, but from a minority of the liberal world who falls too much into the simplistic "victim-opressor" childish scheme that is very twisted in this case, to grow above that and for at least take a more balanced and healthy perspective.
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6 hours ago, Raze said:Interesting alternative perspective. He does a good job explaining what Hamas and Hezbollah may be thinking that mainstream sources aren’t mentioning.
Quite naive. Hezbollah is Iran's proxy and an arm of the Islamin Revolitionary Guard Corps of Iran (Since 1979) who was one of the causes of destabilization in Lebanon, along with other palestinian terror organizations who took over Lebanon and caused a war between them and local groups.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_insurgency_in_South_Lebanon
Also his passion in his eyes when he says Israel "cannot win the war" or there "will be a ceasefire!" exposes his bias in one hand and his lack of understanding and familiarity with Israel in the other hand. Yes there "will be a ceasefire" after 1200 Israelis been killed and while our 240 hostages are still there. Absurdity. Neither fair nor developed perspective at all.
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in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Posted · Edited by Nivsch
There is no doubt in my opinion that the obssession on Israel is not really because of occupation of this and that (only secondary) but the real reason is from the world of psychology, spirituality and spiral dynamics and there is more than just one simple reason. Part of the critism Israel gets is precisely because of the good place from where israel does what it does in a long term and big picture context point of view.