Preety_India

What are the dangers of psychedelics?

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Broadly, what are the dangers of psychedelics? 

I'm getting increasingly frustrated how this place keep promoting psychedelics so freely. 

 

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A bunch... There should be threads on this and Leo has a whole video.

They are very dangerous and require maturity and responsibility taking.


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Leo made a video about this, no?


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@Preety_India if you dont even know what the dangers are/are not than why are you so upset about them being promoted?

Also coming up with a list of dangers isn't a good way of deciding if they are "bad" or not. If you're already a bit against them, than compiling a list of the problems of them will only strengthen your biases. Perhaps look to understand the whole picture instead. Dangers, harm reduction, benefits, success stories. All of it. Are you really trying to better understand the subject or are you just looking for confirmation on your assumptions. And since you don't know the whole picture yet they 100% ARE assumptions.

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They can inflate the ego 1000x and even give you a Messiah complex.

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1 minute ago, BenG said:

They can inflate the ego 1000x and even give you a Messiah complex.

Depends on who is taking them ;)
They just amplify what you already are, no?


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2 minutes ago, BenG said:

They can inflate the ego 1000x and even give you a Messiah complex.

Hope you aren't being sarcastic? 

 

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2 minutes ago, Vincent S said:

Depends on who is taking them ;)
They just amplify what you already are, no?

Absolutely. Like anything, they can be used responsibly or irresponsibly.

7 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Hope you aren't being sarcastic? 

 

I'm not being sarcastic at all. This is a vary real danger of psychedelic use. Especially for late teens and early twenties college students.

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Just now, BenG said:

I'm not being sarcastic at all. This is a vary real danger of psychedelic use. Especially for late teens and early twenties college students.

Awful. 

 

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https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/psychiatry/research/psychedelics-research.html
 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32194129/
 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7943545/

 

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/back-to-the-future-psychedelic-drugs-in-psychiatry-202106222508

 

 

https://www.massgeneral.org/psychiatry/treatments-and-services/center-for-the-neuroscience-of-psychedelics
 

 

https://news.yale.edu/2020/01/20/new-research-confirms-lingering-mood-benefit-psychedelics
 

For me the main risks I’ve seen with myself and people is:

A) Taking too high of a dose and getting some h.p lovecraft style terror. And ptsd. I know people who say they got ptsd from psychedelics. So traumatizing ourselves essentially.

 

B) It becomes an addictive habit. And it starts  being taken just for fun and irresponsibly. And psychedelics become a crutch for dealing with whatever. 
Without integration psychedelics lose a few levels of profundity.

 But also theres allot of research I just linked

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Just now, Preety_India said:

Awful. 

 

lol, I don't know if I'd call it awful, but it is rather embarrassing in hindsight.. :$

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15 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

@Adodd because it could damage people. 

 

And it could help people. There are two sides to this. No response to the rest of the my response? I think I make pretty valid points.

If you want to know the dangers of psychedelics there is already plenty on this form about that. Its also odd that you are saying we need to talk about "the dangers of psychedelics" like Leo and this form neglects that subject. Leo has a video LITERALLY called "the dangers of psychedelics" and I also saw TODAY Leo warning someone today that they were not being safe with them.

Yes, We should all be aware of the dangers but after knowing and discussing them we should be able to openly discuss them and the benefits/experiences. Thats not close to the same as reckless promotion of dangerous drugs.

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@Preety_India It comes down to personal responsibility, and hopefully self awareness. I think most people could take a psychedelic if properly handled. Even if it is just them taking very small doses. 
People who seek to do psychedelics tend to be better off when they are well educated on them. And also know their own mental state, and ease themselves into psychedelics in a way that works for them. Jumping the gun and taking a huge dose is most peoples mistake. I enjoy high doses myself. I just trip much more infrequently 


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THIS IS MY OPINION ANDNOT MEDICAL OR PERSONAL ADVICE:

You can't 100% know. It IS a risk. I think a lot of time its more about what set and setting is than it is about WHO. But generally speaking people with a predisposition to schizophrenia shouldnt touch them. People without any history of self development or spiritual practice shouldnt mess with them either. But even if none of those things apply its still a risk that the individual must decide if theyre willing to take.

This has been repeatedly said by Leo and other members of this forum. So again, the problem isnt reckless promotion (of course i have seen some of that here too). If you want to know the dangers that is very understandable and I'm glad you asked! But dont act its because the only info on the forum is pure reckless encouragement because that's objectively false. Its not just what you ask but also what you're implying by the way you ask.

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Take it easy dude


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