How To Overcome Scarcity Around Attractive Woman

[Lyubov]

On 2/12/2022 at 9:08 AM, Raptorsin7 said:

Yeah this is something I have been thinking about a lot and I'd love to pursue. 

The biggest things holding me back are my carefree life style with everyone paid for my parents and low responsibility and not having a clear idea of what I could realistically do to earn enough money to travel with enough money to not worry about finances.

I’d look over how much savings you have     in the bank and also even consider studying if you can. Maybe you can study for a year there intensive to learn the local language some. From there lol just your CV. A lot of jobs are online these days so see what’s available in your current country that let’s you work remotely. Do you have a university diploma? I’d get your education and finances in a bit of working order before traveling. You could always look for jobs in these countries but it’s not really possible if you don’t know the local language. There are opportunities though to get here. I think the student path is a good one if you are young and haven’t finished all your studies yet. 

[Nightwise]

Conveniently and also coincedentally, I've just written an entire topic on this subject matter

 

If I were to answer just the question of the title of this topic: Stop putting her on a fucking pedestal! Flip the script and start asking these '10's' what kind of substance and content they have that would make them a good partner and a woman of good, submissive character. Actually mean it when you do this, don't think of it as some kind of technique to display high value.

And i'm dead fucking serious about this. I don't see these "9's" and "10's" as all that special. In fact, I see them as aless attractive usually because the chances are much higher they're all arrogant and haughty because they know they can get everything they want from guys. I'm not attracted to arrogant women, so I would rather have such a "10" to stay away from me if she's acting like an entitled brat. I am not going to reward and condone of such behaviour, and I would be very quick to reject and dismiss her if she's acting all entitled like she deserves it all. 

Again, dead fucking serious: I'd rather get a fat, ugly girl who is very submissive, innocent and pure, than a "10" who is acting all entitled, lofty and thinks she deserves it all. (and honestly, what is 'ugly' anyway? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally see ugliness in character; not in appearance)

I actually really resonated with this video from Elliot Hulse where he expresses my thoughts exactly!

 

Edited February 13, 2022 by Nightwise

[Raptorsin7]

@Nightwise My concern is more about seeing abundance for good options of woman for myself and other men.

I have some resentment against men and women when I view desirable woman as a limited commodity, which in turn are monopolized by a small % of men. 

I think if more people had a sense that they were able to find a very desirable partner at some point it could bring the world into greater harmony.

[Raptorsin7]

@Lyubov I have a university degree but its in biology so I view it as not very useful.

I have some passions I'm hoping that I could monetize, but at this point I'm hoping to gain some insight or find a path that makes sense to me. 

My ideal scenario right now would be learning from another digital nomad who has a business idea that they could teach me and I would essentially franchise their idea, but it may be wishful thinking. 

I wouldn't plan on spending prolonged time (beyond a few months) in any one place. Basically my life right now is about seeking, and although I'm happy with my progress, I would prefer to do what I'm doing now while travelling and having complete freedom and autonomy.

I really like British Columbia, and I'd want to come back to live here at some point. Theres also a lot of attractive woman in Vancouver so my area isnt as bad as other areas for woman 

[Javfly33]

4 hours ago, Ghost said:

If you want abundance of hot women go to Kiev, Ukraine. 

Walk down the streets in the city centre and you'll see 10/10 stunners casually walking by, you will think you're in heaven. I got a new crush every 10 minutes. It was an unbelievable experience for me. Not only that, they are generally less feminized...

damnnnn . I'm already seeing tickets... what's the best season of the year to go Kiev? ?

[Cykaaaa]

6 hours ago, Ghost said:

If you want abundance of hot women go to Kiev, Ukraine. 

Not the best time I think lol

[Raptorsin7]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Because he's sending it to me first. Take a number.

Okay okay, I'll take 200k and you can have the rest. I'm losing money on the deal but I'll take it (;

[Ghost]

6 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

damnnnn . I'm already seeing tickets... what's the best season of the year to go Kiev? ?

I was there in September, the guide said it's the best season there - not too hot, not too cold. ~25 C° and lot of sunshine.

Using the Tinder passport feature I can talk to lot of girls who live there.(bought a year of Tinder Platinum for 30$ dollars while I stayed there - ye it's cheap as hell there). Even before Russia's threat they were suprisingly open to move to my country for the hope of a better life (imagine now). Though I am not commiting to anyone right now as I am young but I had couple of chicks flying to Budapest - capital of Hungary to visit me.

They generally don't like Ukranian men very much and their country's economic and political situation. Also there is abundance there - I was told that there are more women than men.

I just think back how awesome it was in Kiev, how big the return of investment is to meet women there. Plus they are usually fun to be around, suprisingly educated, so it is not just about their looks.

Language barrier sucks though 

Edited February 13, 2022 by Ghost

[Leo Gura]

Flying into WW3 to get laid?

Pack a bulletproof vest along with your box of condoms

[Nahm]

If it’s useful… 

https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/psychologists/what-is-deflection-psychology-explains-this-defense-mechanism/

??

[Happy Lizard]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Flying into WW3 to get laid?

Pack a bulletproof vest along with your box of condoms

fly to Ukraine only to find a sausage party of Russians occupying the city...
while all the hot Ukrainian girls fled here to the US.

It would've been fun see that.. damn Leo, why'd have to ruin it 

[Leo Gura]

Bombs are falling, meanwhile these guys are running around the streets of Ukraine hitting on terrified girls

Maybe Putin is annexing Ukraine for all the hot girls

[Lyubov]

Just don't be this guy

Ukraine is SUPER SCAMMY and they take desperate guys looking for a girl there for a ride all the time 

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Flying into WW3 to get laid?

Pack a bulletproof vest along with your box of condoms

Right. I forgot about that :facepalm: 

 

1 hour ago, Ghost said:

I was there in September, the guide said it's the best season there - not too hot, not too cold. ~25 C° and lot of sunshine.

Using the Tinder passport feature I can talk to lot of girls who live there.(bought a year of Tinder Platinum for 30$ dollars while I stayed there - ye it's cheap as hell there). Even before Russia's threat they were suprisingly open to move to my country for the hope of a better life (imagine now). Though I am not commiting to anyone right now as I am young but I had couple of chicks flying to Budapest - capital of Hungary to visit me.

They generally don't like Ukranian men very much and their country's economic and political situation. Also there is abundance there - I was told that there are more women than men.

I just think back how awesome it was in Kiev, how big the return of investment is to meet women there. Plus they are usually fun to be around, suprisingly educated, so it is not just about their looks.

Language barrier sucks though 

WoW thanks for the info. Very useful

[AuroraDream]

why are we even trying to chase hot women in the first place? why participate in this ruthless value game?

[Raptorsin7]

19 minutes ago, AuroraDream said:

why are we even trying to chase hot women in the first place? why participate in this ruthless value game?

What is the alternative? I want to pursue women I find desirable, and part of what I find desirable is beauty.

So we chase ugly women?

 

[Lyubov]

why bother eating? why bother showering after passing a turd? 

[StarStruck]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Bombs are falling, meanwhile these guys are running around the streets of Ukraine hitting on terrified girls

Maybe Putin is annexing Ukraine for all the hot girls

The first thing he will be doing in Kiev is to put-in. 

[AuroraDream]

@Raptorsin7 no man i understand, that's fair, your desires are your desires, no problem.

I've just seen for myself that the domain of chasing women, the possessiveness, jealousy, competitiveness etc, carries lots of darkness and suffering, 

Also many women without knowing this project energy that is designed to hurt and intimate others to attract things and make them feel valuable, and this isn't something i want to participate in. 

with psychedelics ive been able to contemplate some of these things and see them for what they really are and its helped me break free  

[StarStruck]

On 11-2-2022 at 6:48 AM, Raptorsin7 said:

I have a limiting belief around attractive woman being very rare, and so I view dating as a zero-sum game. There are winners and losers. But I think this leads to many toxic beliefs, and I don't like feeling like I'm in competition with everyone, i think this divisive and if it's possible to overcome this we would all be better off.

But I don't know how to change my view. It's like I look and see an attractive woman, and then I see a bunch of woman who I do not view as attractive, and it just seems like there's a limited supply of these attractive woman so you either do what's necessary to attract them or you will be on the losing end. 

Is it possible to see all woman as incredibly attractive and desirable? But immediately I think what about crack addicted woman with no teeth etc. 

Like imagine a world where 90% of woman were 9/10's. Wouldn't this be a better situation for everyone? 

Attraction seems relatively straight forward. Attractive woman stimulate us on some emotional/sexual/energetic level and so we are drawn to them. But maybe we could find a way for more woman to evoke the same response as a 10/10 bomb shell. 

It would be cool to hear if anyone has transcended this specific issue, and what that looks like

I have been thinking about the same and I honestly there is no magic pill. You just have to run through your karma; be weird, needy, get it out of your system by acting it out and noticing the neediness in your body and letting it go. Mindfulness is indeed curative.