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Mysticism

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"Realizing that everything is imaginary should heighten your passion, not lessen it. It's awesome to know that reality is a dream. This is the best possible news! You should want reality to be mystical rather than material. Materialism is boring and bleak. Mysticism is awesome and magical."

-Leo Gura

I am confused now what the word Mysticism points to. Some define it as merging with the soul of the universe, but that would be the same as Awakening. Others say Mysticism is any altered, heightened state of consciousness, so basically traveling to other worlds by altering your consciousness. But in the above quote Leo equates Mysticism with Imagination.

So when we use the word Mysticism we are pointing to Infinite Imagination? Looking at the universe as one divine creation and our role in it.

Is Mysticism a true worldview? (I know all worldviews are not equal to the absolute truth, but a worldview that states everything is imaginary including itself seems to be a better worldview than materialism, now that I've seen everything is one spirit/universe)

First post btw.

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Welcome, @Mythos! Mysticism is less of a worldview, and more the path of directly realizing reality. It is nonconceptual, unmitigated, personal realization and resonance with the divine. There are mystics across most religions (Hindu, Christian, etc.), and the difference is that they trust their direct experience above any external authority.

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@Moksha  Thanks! So the difference between Spirituality and Mysticism is that all Mysticism is based on non-conceptual Consciousness (Direct experience), while Spirituality doesn't have to be?


Edit: Why does Leo then equate Mysticism with Imagination?

Edited by Mythos

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@Mythos it is transcending the human mind.  Transcending logic and rationalism.  Infinity/Being requires no mechanism - which defies all logic.  Because of course it is prior to logic.   Its just pure magic.

Reality is imagination because it is Infinite - it's substrate is nothing.


 

Oh my God, it's One.

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54 minutes ago, Mythos said:

@Moksha  Thanks! So the difference between Spirituality and Mysticism is that all Mysticism is based on non-conceptual Consciousness (Direct experience), while Spirituality doesn't have to be?
Edit: Why does Leo then equate Mysticism with Imagination?

Mysticism it the pathway to spirituality. Your true nature is Consciousness, and mysticism is the journey of Self-discovery. There are no concepts involved, only direct experience as Consciousness itself.

I can't speak for Leo, but Consciousness is completely unconstrained. Imagination is just another word for creation, and creation is the game Consciousness plays. It is the ultimate storyteller, and what you think of as "you" is just a character in the divine story.

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If you tear down the walls of your mind, formed by concept, fear, desire, logic and attachment, you will be an open antenna for reception. this is mystic imo

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Mysticism: 

"A: An advanced stage of inner enlightenment

B: Union With Reality

C: A State of Genuinely satisfying success

D: Insight into an entirely new way of living

e: An intuitive grasp of truth above and beyond intellectual reasoning " Vernon Howard The Mystic Path To Cosmic Power

Edited by Thought Art

It's just turtles all the way down.

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mysticism is embracing mystery, relishing that most stuff is unknowable

mind is only interested in and capable of the knowable

going beyond mind enters the mystical

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To complete the other comments, I would say it is the path of mistery. Sciencie gets crazy and thinks all reality is a problem to be solved. The mystic understands that it is all a great mistery: as so, he acts and lives.

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@Mythos realitys fundamental nature is magic / mysticism its how everything exists and its what you are theres no reason for magic because well its magic 

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@Nate0068 Depends on what you think magic is. Someone has ESP and you think it is magic but its just reality.


It's just turtles all the way down.

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On 01/02/2021 at 11:41 PM, Breakingthewall said:

If you tear down the walls of your mind, formed by concept, fear, desire, logic and attachment, you will be an open antenna for reception. this is mystic imo

Open for good and for bad, im afraid.

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On 01/02/2021 at 8:54 PM, Moksha said:

Welcome, @Mythos they trust their direct experience above any external authority.

its hard sometimes. thank you.

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"Two kinds of people: mistakes and mystics. " ~ Sadhguru

:D


"If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you." -- Gospel of Thomas

"Know thyself." -- Delphic maxim

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3 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Without materialism, mysticism points to nothing. 

and nothing is beautiful.

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True mysticism leads to God-realization, "Ana Al-Haqq, I am God".

All seperation cease to exist. A Sadghuru can rightly claim to be the Godhead. There is no more "God is all there is, God imagines us all, God created us all etc", it rather becomes "I". 

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@Kalo Fascinating. Where did you learn this? 


"If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you." -- Gospel of Thomas

"Know thyself." -- Delphic maxim

Encyclopedia

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16 minutes ago, Megan Alecia said:

@Kalo Fascinating. Where did you learn this? 

Some years back now I read a lot of hindu scriptures, vedanta and uphanisads, Sufism etc. Along with my direct experiences later on. All leads to God, but the ego will do anything to hide and forget that you are God. Only when the ego dies, will that fact never again be questioned.

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Simply speaking its just basking in the mystery that is being alive. Mysticism comes from the world Mystery. 

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