Tim R

"High"&"Low" is bullshit

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@Tim R

3 minutes ago, Tim R said:

 

Being aware of the oneness of existence isn't obstructing you in any way. After all, the world was also one before you saw it as one:)

That's not the way I meant it. Of course oneness is great.

What I wanted to say is that naturally, people have all sorts of questions about relative issues on here. And it's not very helpful if responses like "It's all imaginary anyway" are thrown at you.

Yes, it's one. And yes, it's imaginary.

But we are still living our lives and have decisions to make, and I think it's great that people start caring about the impact of their decisions.

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i can define low/high consciousness for MY path but not for yours

if i slack off or make some poor decisions or adopt bad lifestyle, i am not living at the consciousness i am capable of and i therefore suffer

your path is completely different

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It sounds right that high and low consciousness doesnt actually exist, but without these labels, how can I differentiate between a path of confusion, and a path of clarity?  

 


" ..." 

-The Buddha

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2 minutes ago, dflores321 said:

It sounds right that high and low consciousness doesnt actually exist, but without these labels, how can I differentiate between a path of confusion, and a path of clarity?  

Confusion = identifying with "your" conditioned mind.

Clarity = realizing as Consciousness.

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1 hour ago, mmKay said:

@Tim R  I understand, but it's a quality problem I'd say. Identifying what is " high conciousness " and move towards that, and what is " low consciousness " and mostly stay away from it . There are so much more worse traps. 

Are there really worse traps? Are there really better traps?

If you realize it, you'll laugh yourself silly (we always do). :) 

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If you look at any trap backwards you see that it is always a part. 


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@dflores321

1 hour ago, dflores321 said:

It sounds right that high and low consciousness doesnt actually exist, but without these labels, how can I differentiate between a path of confusion, and a path of clarity?  

By getting rid of the idea of "a path of clarity and a path of confusion"


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3 hours ago, dflores321 said:

It sounds right that high and low consciousness doesnt actually exist, but without these labels, how can I differentiate between a path of confusion, and a path of clarity?  

 

You can inspect the actuality. Point to the confusion in sensation specifically exactly where it is in the body, and you find it is not. Point to exactly where it is in perception, and you find it is not. The clarity sought then arises, that the confusion is a thought. 

Then, and this takes practice / experience, realizing it is a thought, let it go. Allow any revisiting of it, any question of it, etc, reveal to you that in fact you haven’t let it go, and let it go for realz. Gone. Never even arose. Couldn’t remember it if a gun was to your head. 

Then it is very clearly experienced that clarity is that which thoughts arise in, and what they are made of. 

What a joke! 

(*this joke gets funnier the more one practices the letting go of the thoughts)


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3 hours ago, Nahm said:

If you look at any trap backwards you see that it is always a part. 

A part, but not apart.

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@Willie

Nice, and indeed. “Trapa” just didn’t work word wise. xD

T r a p p a r T


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2 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@Willie

Nice, and indeed. “Trapa” just didn’t work word wise. xD

T r a p p a r T

I’ve seen many people say they’re apart of something. o.O
Oh, well...

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Planting trees with fruit on them for yourself, and then telling yourself don't touch THIS one over HERE, is the essence of a trap I'd say. 

But only if you're playing a part in this play.

xD

Edited by mandyjw

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I don't really see the distinction between "high" and "low" consciousness as being particularly disparaging. I mean maybe at first I saw it as such, but as time passes it's increasingly obvious that everyone and everything has their role to play. These terms help us frame a useful goal for us all to push towards, and then as the goal is accomplished we can perhaps reframe it to some degree, as we are also falling off track. 

There is so much suffering in the world caused by "low" conciousness that I think it is worth calling a spade a spade. 

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@Tim R your issue is not with the distinctions themselves but with one's bias towards one or the other.  Take the attachment or bias out of it and just look at it from a completey selfless vantage point - as everything in the world of form is relative, or it is distinctions.  The key is to reaching such a vantage point is to understand Oneness and that all distinctions must collapse.  When you become conscious of this you can release bias or attachment (which is ego) towards any one distinction or one particular level of consciousness.   At that point you are free to make distinctions - because afterall in formed reality (ie the dream)  -  all is relative.

So realize that this post is evidence of your own bias.


The Path to Truth is walked Alone.

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12 hours ago, Gesundheit said:

Understanding.

my deepest desire. but does this quest for understanding ever end? I wonder 

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3 hours ago, Lyubov said:

my deepest desire. but does this quest for understanding ever end? I wonder 

In one of my awakenings, I realized that the ultimate form of understanding is being. So, that might mean that it's not possible to understand reality, or that it's already understood but thought not to be, or both of them. In any case, the difference between high consciousness and low consciousness turns out to be illusory. And the more you move towards understanding, the further you will get from being, because understanding requires thinking, and thinking is dualistic. Then again, you can't possibly get any further from being, because you already are whatever you are. So, turns out I'm really confused here and don't have the answer to your question xD

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8 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

In one of my awakenings, I realized that the ultimate form of understanding is being. 

I've experienced this as well, but I found myself circling back around (best I can describe it) to explore new dimensions of mystery. so interesting. 

Edited by Lyubov

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