Posted October 8, 2020 @arlin "We are all one" is just a hippie/psychedelic idea. “If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Gesundheit said: @arlin "We are all one" is just a hippie/psychedelic idea. Haha Yes... but it came from wisdom and easily misunderstood. I believe it's pointing to the recognition that the separate individual within the body is an illusion. Just happening...❤ “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 22 hours ago, VincentArogya said: @VincentArogya@VincentArogya @Mu_ nothing can go right or wrong but also you can't find anything. Any answers are within the dream. There is no path out of it and the rules of the game are not not to get stuck in the illusion. Illusion is all there is here. Dream is all that this can be, so why do all this work to try to get answers when there are absolutely no answers but only delusions? You can realize all sort of things. You can realize that you are god, that you are everything or infinite. But all of this within the dream. All of this would require further understanding or still feel like something is missing which automatically confirms the separation. Its a never ending loop... Right? 22 hours ago, VincentArogya said: @VincentArogya 22 hours ago, VincentArogya said: 23 hours ago, Leo Gura said: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 @arlin This is it, there is no other then this. This is all you got. The end of the search. Let thy speech be better then silence, or be silent. - Pseudo-dionysius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Adamq8 said: @arlin This is it, there is no other then this. This is all you got. The end of the search. Or maybe this is where the subjective/direct experience limits start to become apparent. Maybe you'd need a leap of another kind to go beyond those limits. Maybe consciousness is not the ultimate answer. “If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 @Gesundheit if i got you right you are implying that a objective physical world is out there, and conciousness might be an illusion or? Let thy speech be better then silence, or be silent. - Pseudo-dionysius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Adamq8 said: @Gesundheit if i got you right you are implying that a objective physical world is out there, and conciousness might be an illusion or? Why not? “If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 @Gesundheit yeah it might be that, it sure seem like it , science is perhaps right actually Let thy speech be better then silence, or be silent. - Pseudo-dionysius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, arlin said: For example, to be conscious of this moment, implies to be separate from it. To be more conscious, it still implies ti be separate from it. Only now you have made it seem like it's a bigger deal. A bigger dream. Im afraid if im going through this i will just make the dream bigger. Dude there is no you to become conscious of anything. You don't exist. Only consciousness exists. And that is YOU. "life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived " -Osho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 @Adamq8 no. There are no objects. Even the screen in front of you is the infinite screeing and thats it. @Someone here how did you realize that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Someone here said: Dude there is no you to become conscious of anything. You don't exist. Only consciousness exists. And that is YOU. Says no person at all. “If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, arlin said: @Someone here how did you realize that? THIS is Consciousness. Right here. It's not illusion. Fine? Now go ahead.. Where is this ghost called you? How do you know you are the head and not the feet? How you know you are the human feet and not the TV screen? You think you are looking at the screen right now right? That's just a thought.. Take away the thought "I am looking at the screen right now" for a moment.... All the sudden there is just pure screen happening to no one. "life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived " -Osho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 38 minutes ago, arlin said: @VincentArogya@VincentArogya @Mu_ nothing can go right or wrong but also you can't find anything. Any answers are within the dream. There is no path out of it and the rules of the game are not not to get stuck in the illusion. Illusion is all there is here. Dream is all that this can be, so why do all this work to try to get answers when there are absolutely no answers but only delusions? You can realize all sort of things. You can realize that you are god, that you are everything or infinite. But all of this within the dream. All of this would require further understanding or still feel like something is missing which automatically confirms the separation. Its a never ending loop... Right? @VincentArogya You're drawing conclusions/assuming things that aren't in your direct experience. As long as you do this, you'll always be confused. God is love Whoever lives in love lives in God And God in them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Gesundheit said: @arlin "We are all one" is just a hippie/psychedelic idea. We're like Siamese twins, it's a very confusing situation. No one knows whether to look away or give us our own reality TV show. My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 @Shin very confused. @Someone here this is happening to no one in the sense that it's not happening to a me which has a story? So You say its not happening to you, its happening to consciousness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 @arlin reality is nondual. It means there isn't two things that exist in reality. There is only just reality happening to reality. But That's also going too far. There is only just fucking THIS. Impossiblely direct. Just THIS. You and a happening is two. You are conscious of reality is two. Illusion and real is two. You and consciousness is two. There is only one thing and THIS is it. Any divisions you think are imaginary. That includes the division between real and imaginary. Between subject and object. Between Leo and your dad. Between right and wrong. Between duality and nonduality. Don't try to use the mind to understand. The mind can just create distinctions. All distinctions are bullshit. Reality is ONE. There is nothing to understand. It all self-understands itself perfectly. Wake up. Wake up. "life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived " -Osho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 58 minutes ago, Adamq8 said: @arlin This is it, there is no other then this. This is all you got. The end of the search. ? “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) @Someone here Does anyone ACTUALLY have this embodied outside of saying pretty words. Edited October 8, 2020 by Proserpina ??????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Proserpina said: @Someone here Does anyone ACTUALLY have this embodied outside of saying pretty words. You have to figure out if there is such thing as "anyone" first. Again this is duality.. A someone.. And a teaching to be embodied.. And a process of embodiment. The teaching is for the ego. There is no ego to embody. Truth can't be embodied. Who would embody it?? It embodies itself it already is itself everywhere and everywhen. Wake up you little thread spy lol. "life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived " -Osho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, arlin said: So You say its not happening to you, its happening to consciousness. It is not happening TO consciousness, it IS consciousness. Even if it's just a name for 'happening', that name can be whatever. Consciousness, Reality, God, etc 10 minutes ago, Proserpina said: @Someone here Does anyone ACTUALLY have this embodied outside of saying pretty words. Ego, the "I" thought is just a thought, it is perceived by and in Consciousness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
