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[Thewritersunion]

When 2024 comes around I will only speak in Turquoise. It is time we all raised all our minds by then’s time. 

[Frylock]

Unity absolutely is the message that Biden and the democrats need to push for. This isn't the end, this isn't even the beginning of the end. This is the end of the beginning, and a message of unity and healing needs to take root like yesterday.

Edited November 9, 2020 by Frylock

[Leo Gura]

 

[Leo Gura]

 

[Leo Gura]

Be ware of unity with devils.

That could become hell.

[Shin]

Giving him a free pass and ignoring what happened is the same has putting a bandage where your cancer is.

It looks nice, but you're still gonna die.

[Shin]

11 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

As for now, the political power is still re-organizing itself. It would be premature and somewhat unwise to shock everyone with a full investigation and an arrest, I guess.

But one things settle down a bit, they can switch the narrative and present the case to all the sleepy people who didn't see what was up and are up for a rude awakening. I don't know.

Giving Trump a freepass would be looking really poorly not only for us, but within history books as well. You can't leave such a precedent unpunished and ignored. And it makes the whole US democracy system look weak.

I don't see Trump getting away with what he's been pulling at this point. It's just a matter of time.

I doubt Trumpists will change their mind so easily, but the timing of the prosecution and revelations are important to reduce the upcoming hostilities to a minimum.

I think it'll already be pretty nasty in the upcoming months, I hope it won't go too far though

[Preety_India]

40 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Be ware of unity with devils.

That could become hell.

It's not possible to unite with people like Trumpers. How can Americans not understand this simple thing? 

 

[abrakamowse]

There's some good comments in his videos too:

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John Wall 3 days ago

If you voted for him in 2016: I get it. If you voted for him in 2020, after all that he has done, you have no morals, no principles, and no integrity.

 

Edited November 9, 2020 by abrakamowse

[Frylock]

28 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

It's not possible to unite with people like Trumpers. How can Americans not understand this simple thing? 

 

Then what's needed? More divisiveness and a civil war? May the best side win?

[abrakamowse]

[abrakamowse]

4 minutes ago, Frylock said:

Then what's needed? More divisiveness and a civil war? May the best side win?

And tomorrow what?

We will have a dictatorship?

[Shin]

3 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

"I've been fired "

 

[Frylock]

4 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

And tomorrow what?

We will have a dictatorship?

What I'm asking is that if the message of unity isn't the answer, then what is? Genuinely curious on how this country can begin to heal.

[DocWatts]

13 minutes ago, Frylock said:

Then what's needed? More divisiveness and a civil war? May the best side win?

There's a core of MAGA supporters that more or less behave as if they were in a Cult; no amount of reconciliation or reasonableness on your part will be enough to get them to abandon the Cult of Personality they've fallen under. Some portion of this group are literal white supremacists who subscribe to a fascist ideology; these people need to be socially ostracized from polite society, as allowing thier views to become normalized is extremely dangerous.

Moderates on the other hand, or Conservatives who aren't Trump loyalists, should absolutely be reached out to and included. 

But we need to be able to draw distinction between people with whom we have political disagreements, and people operating in Bad Faith to undermine Democracy.

Edited November 9, 2020 by DocWatts

[abrakamowse]

1 minute ago, Frylock said:

What I'm asking is that if the message of unity isn't the answer, then what is? Genuinely curious on how this country can begin to heal.

I think Unity is the answer, but as the guy in the videos said, first we have to address the wounds.

That means to held accountable anyone who has broken the law, and Trump is one of them...

[Frylock]

Well yes, we need our leaders to denounce white supremacy, and allow the FBI to root it out of all organizations, especially the police force. Also need to denounce and control alt right terrorism.

That won't happen overnight, and obviously there's a lot of groundwork needed before we can unify. But the message of unity is basic and an obvious end goal that comes after the fight against radical ideologies.

Hopefully Biden and the democrats will actually take the required steps instead of just airing empty fantasies and hope.

[abrakamowse]

Just now, Frylock said:

Hopefully Biden and the democrats will actually take the required steps instead of just airing empty fantasies and hope.

???

[Keyhole]

How to deal with outer and inner civil war - as above, so below

• Even doctors have moral scruples, and that certain patients confessions are hard even for a doctor to swallow, yet the patient does not feel himself accepted unless the very worse of him is accepted, no one can bring this about through words - it comes only through reflection and through the doctor's attitude towards himself and his own dark side - if the doctor wants to guide another, he must feel with that person's psyche.
• He never feels it when he passes judgement.  If he feels it or says it, makes no difference.
• To just agree with the patient makes no difference.
• Feeling comes only through unprejudiced objectivity, this could be confused with a purely intellectual abstract attitude of of mind.
• It is a kind of deep respect for the facts.  For the man who suffers from them and the riddle of such a man's life. A truly religious person understands this attitude.  He knows that God has brought all sorts of strange and inconceivable things to pass and seeks in the most curious ways to enter a man's heart.
• He senses in everything the unseen presence of the divine will, this is what I mean by unprejudiced objectivity - it is a moral achievement on the part of the doctor who ought not to let himself be repelled by sickness and corruption.
• We cannot change anything unless we accept it - condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses.
• We must not pass judgement when we desire to help and improve, and a doctor cannot help a patient unless he accepts him as he is, and he can do this only when he has already seen and accepted himself as he is.
• Most simply solution, simple things are the most difficult, in actuality it requires the greatest art to be simple and so acceptance of one's self is the essence of the moral problem and the acid test of one's whole outlook on life.
• That I feed the beggar, that I forgive an insult, that I love my enemy in the name of Christ, what I do unto my brethren that I do unto Christ - but what if I should discover that the very fiend himself is within me, that these are within me and that I myself stand in need of the arms of my own kindness, that I myself am the enemy who must be loved, what then?
• Then as a rule, the whole truth of Christianity is reversed, there is then no more talk of love and long suffering.  We then condemn the lowly within ourselves and hide him from the world - we deny ever having met him.
• Healing may be called a religious problem - in the sphere of social or national relations the state of suffering may be of civil war and this state is to be cured by the Christian virtue by forgiveness and love of one's enemies.
• This must also be applied inwardly for the treatment of neurosis.
• Modern man has heard enough about guilt and sin, is beset by his own bad conscience, and wants to know how to reconcile his own nature, the enemy in his own heart and call the wolf his brother. 
• The modern man does not want to know in what way he can imitate Christ, but in what way he can live his own individual life however meager and uninteresting it may be, it is because every form of imitation seems to him deadening and sterile that he rebels against the force of tradition that would hold him to well trodden ways.
• All such roads for him lead in the wrong direction - he may not know it, but he behaves as if his own individual life were God's special will which must be fulfilled at all costs - this is the source of his egoism - which is one of the most tangible evils of the neurotic state.
• The person who tells him he is too egoistic has already lost his confidence and rightly so, for that person has driven him further still into his neurosis.
• "If I wish to effect a cure for my patients, I am forced to acknowledge the deep significance of their egoism - I should be blind indeed if I did not recognize it as a true Will of God."
• I must even help the patient to prevail in his egoism - if he succeeds in this he estranges himself from other people, he drives them away - and they come to themselves as they should - for they were seeking to rob him of his sacred egoism - this must be left to him, for it is his strongest and healthiest power.  It is a true Will of God, which sometimes drives him into complete isolation.
• However wretched this state may be, it also stands him in good stead for in this way alone can he get to know himself and learn what an invaluable treasure is the love of his fellow beings.
• It is moreover, only in the state of complete abandonment and loneliness that we experience the helpful powers of our own natures.
• When one has several times seen this development at work, one can no longer deny that what was evil has turned to good - and that what seemed good has kept alive the forces of evil.  The archdemon of egoism leads us along the royal road to spiritual awakening.
• This is an observable fundamental law of life.  An enantiodromia or conversion into the opposite, and it is this that makes possible the reunion of the warring halves of the personality and thereby brings the civil war to an end. 

[Preety_India]

55 minutes ago, Frylock said:

Then what's needed? More divisiveness and a civil war? May the best side win?

The thing that you don't understand is that you cannot unite with the ones with bad intentions or mindsets. It's like telling someone to befriend terrorists. 

The road to healing is an independent road. Dems will have to work on their plans and reach their goals without befriending Republicans or submitting to their demands. The Republicans will have to be left to themselves because they won't be of much use as long as they hold out a grudge against Dems. You can't expect unity with someone whose values are different and diametrically opposite of yours. Because then it means agreeing to them or their values. But how can you agree to something that is against your core principles. 

But this does not mean an outright war. It only means moving along with your plans and goals leaving the opponent out of your business. It's not about attacking Republicans or creating hate against them. It only means avoiding them and moving on