Leo Gura

Spiral Dynamics Stage Red Examples Mega-Thread

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Anabolic-androgenic steroids ("AAS") can be tools to gain respect and admiration from others and to earn self-respect as soon as possible.

AAS (i.e., male sex hormones) are not all Red--just as female hormones (e.g., oral contraceptives) are not all Red. Many steroid-using physique competitors and bodybuilders calculate the risk of their male hormone use with extensive scientific knowledge. Of course, Physicians also use AAS in medicine (e.g., for burn victims).

However, depending on the urgency of a person's need to integrate Red values to survive, I suggest that AAS can potentially integrate Red values and perspectives. For example, if an abusive workplace tears down the last shreds of a person's self-respect—anabolic steroids might be the magical talisman of the hero’s journey.

"Dr. Tony Huge" is an example of heavily Red values and ways of thinking (e.g., risky human experimentation, sex counts, blingy chains, and unbridled ego). However, Tony Huge also facilitates higher values and ways of thinking (e.g., the use of psychedelics, information from many sources, and systematic protest against information-censorship).

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Red can inspire with their ruthless bravery!


Dont look at me! Look inside!

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Not saying this guy is RED, but hes very in touch with the balls to the wall thrill-seeking value that RED looks up to. 


Dont look at me! Look inside!

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This is horrifying.

Watching this felt like a slap in the face. The slap says: "Stay thankful and stop bitching around."

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This game is really just torture porn for children, I used to play it when I was younger not realizing how fucked it was

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I’m sure he’s fine.                                        

 


I'm not friendly.

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In feudal Japan one could pick a sword and start his Red career.

I’m curious of how for example, a tribal man/woman could do in modern time to move to red ? There are a lot of tribal women and men in places like the middle east and the amazon, I’m thinking that the healthiest way to move them into red is either to recruit them into military or employee them as bodyguards.

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On 1/7/2021 at 3:17 AM, Egodeathrow said:

 

Was it this guy who said that if you’ve come to my show you deserve to get beaten or raped? Lol Wondering how many people in his audience even knew that he had AIDS when he would throw his blood on them. Rare freak

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4 hours ago, Happy Lizard said:

In feudal Japan one could pick a sword and start his Red career.

Highly doubt that. There was a strict social hierarchy that you had to climb.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo Gura true, and even at that point as a stage purple you’d have to give up so much of your dear values and belonging to a tribe in order to be self empowered, and it’s a scary as fuck way of life too. 
 

maybe thats one good way to appreciate Red in my view, it’s hard to do so otherwise, if our best examples that we are always referring to are MAGA or Hitler. 

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Darth Leo slaying all of his detractors.          

   


I'm not friendly.

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"Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie

 

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The reaction of the last guy at 2:43 is a healthy Red example imo cuz he's using his balls to save someone in danger.

 

 


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Eminem, Detroit, rappers from poor countries/cities/neighborhoods.etc are almost always at stage Red in the beginning of their careers.

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Unconditional stimulus- BEIGE

Conditional stimulus- RED

 


"Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie

 

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