Proof porn is bad for you

[Raze]

1. Porn is addictive

• 50 brain studies showing that porn causes brain changes similar to the changes in substance abuse addicts
•  this German study on men not addicted to porn found addiction-related brain changes and less brain activation to porn correlating with more porn consumed.
• As of 2016, more than a quarter of porn users surveyed are showing signs of problematic porn use. In one study, (27.6%) of a large French-speaking sample self-assessed their consumption of online sex activity as problematic. In a Yale study of 1298 men who had viewed  pornography in the last 6 months, 28% scored at or above the cutoff for hypersexuality disorder. Meaning at least 27% of porn users become addicts
• This study asked if internet users experienced anxiety when they couldn’t access porn on the internet (a withdrawal symptom): 24% experienced anxiety.

2. Porn hurts your sex life

•  An Italian study found that 16% of high school seniors who consumed porn more than once a week self-reported abnormally low sexual desire. Compare that to 0% of non-porn users reporting low sexual desire.
• Over 70 studies have reported more porn use linked to poorer sexual or relationship satisfaction.
• This study found 12.0% of respondents reported the need for longer stimulation to reach orgasm, 17.6% reported the need and more sexual stimuli to reach orgasm, and 24.5% reported a decrease in sexual satisfaction. Among those surveyed who declared themselves to be current pornography consumers , 51.0% admitted to making at least one attempt to give up using it (proof it's addiction, they tried to quit but can't). 72.2% of those attempting to quit pornography use indicated the experience of at least one associated effect, and the most frequently observed included erotic dreams (53.5%), irritability (26.4%), attention disturbance (26.0%), and sense of loneliness (22.2%) (withdrawal symptoms).

3. You become desensitized to normal porn and escalate

• a 2018 YOUPorn survey reported that 40% of women and 64% of men report that their porn tastes have changed in the past 5 years. 
• another study found that 49% of the men reported viewing porn that was not previously interesting to them or that they once considered disgusting.  The study also found problematic Internet porn use was associated with reduced erectile function and reduced overall sexual satisfaction. Yet problematic porn users experienced greater cravings.

4. You can get erectile dysfunction

• In the 1940s, the Kinsey report concluded that the prevalence of ED was less than 1% in men younger than 30 years, less than 3% in those 30–45. And a 1999 cross-sectional study (based on data gathered in 1992) published by the Journal of the American Medical Association reported erectile dysfunction rates of only 5%, and low sexual desire in 5%.
• a 2012 cross-sectional study of Swiss men aged 18-24 found ED rates of 30%, and a 2010 Brazilian study of men 18-40 reported ED rates of 35%. A 2013 Italian study reported one in four patients seeking help for new onset ED were younger than 40. Astonishingly, the rate of severe ED was nearly 10% higher in younger men than in men over 40. What changed? The spread of the internet and streaming porn.
• In an experiment employing video porn, 50% of the young men couldn’t become aroused or achieve erections without porn (average age was 29). The shocked researchers discovered that the men’s erectile dysfunction was.
• A 2014 study on Canadian adolescents reported that 53.5% of males aged 16-21 have symptoms indicative of a sexual problem. Erectile dysfunction was the most common (27%), followed by low sexual desire (24%), and problems with orgasm (11%). The authors were baffled why rates were so high, and were surprised that sexual dysfunction rates for males surpassed females, unlike in earlier published literature.

Porn addiction symptoms:

Distress about escalation to more extreme porn, Difficulty maintaining an erection while putting on a condom, Delayed ejaculation, Loss of libido, Copulatory impotence (can get it up for porn, but not partners), Frequent masturbation, little satisfaction, Uncharacteristic, worsening social anxiety or lack of confidence, Growing erectile dysfunction, even with extreme porn., Morphing porn tastes that don’t match sexual orientation (also triggering HOCD), Inability to concentrate, extreme restlessness, Depression, anxiety, brain fog.

There are a few studies denying the problems with porn online that received significant media attention. They were purposefully misleading studies made by people involved in the porn industry. Here is a video presentation debunking them.

All this info was taken from yourbrainonpron.com 

[Onemanwolfpac]

I don't think its necessarily "bad" for you. I think its not a good thing but i digress. I think it serves a purpose for a lot of guys. I saw a link about Christian married men who get none from their wives. The dopamine spikes are similar to social media and other things. Fortunately, i don't partake in either. Pornhub is a click away from all kinds of nasty things. Instead of actually getting laid, more guys are lazy, and rather fap than pursue. 

[Oliver Saavedra]

Wow thanks for the info recopilation! 

Yes it is highly addictive and yes it causes all that many troubles. But I've found that tagging it as "bad or wrong" doesn't work. Guilt only perpetuates the addiction system in you.

What I found helpful was to understand it, reconcile with it and with yourself and your sexuality, then work on creating whatever you want to create. Then you leave porn naturally because its something you just don't find useful. 

If you used the title like that just to make it click-baity, then I salute you haha ✋

Edited June 10, 2020 by Oliver Saavedra

[StarStruck]

A lot of people are addicted to it because our ancestors didn't have access to such an unnatural stimuli. There are interesting studies done on this. 

[Lyubov]

 

This is a good book which is sex positive but also recognizes the responsibility behind viewing porn. Porn is fine if you are responsible with it, just like all vices. I also wouldn't even call it a vice. It's an expression of sexuality which we as humans are hardwired for. 

[Kalki Avatar]

If you come from a needy place, it will eat you out. Calm the compulsion and come from a place of being. 

I have been contemplating and jerking off to many girls lately and cannot be happier. Its all perspective. 

[Preety_India]

 

Don't let porn reduce you to an animal /robot that only wants material pleasure. 

 

(just my 2 cents) 

 

 

[Jai]

Most guys don't have a porn problem. Most guys have a "getting sex" problem. If getting sex with a few new girls a week were effortless the porn problem would magically disappear. However getting sex is difficult and requires effort not short term gratification.

Porn is horrible for the masculine psyche... it basically internalizes that real sex is for other people and all you can do is watch it.

The next time I have sex I'll invite you over to my place and you can jerk off in the corner? Sound like a good idea? Of course not, unless you're a cuck. Get some self respect and go out and find a girl to date and have sex with instead of being a cuck and jerking off to some other guy having sex.

Honestly, though porn is actually a GOOD thing for guys who DON'T WATCH IT.  So many men watch it and basically have nothing to offer women sexually that there are so many more options for guys who don't watch it.

The next time you jerk off to porn think: at the same moment some guy is having real sex with a hot girl. Which guy do you want to be?

The next time you jerk off to porn think: there is some guy that is uglier, less cool and with a smaller dick than you that is having sex with a real girl 

The next time you jerk off to porn think: IF YOU TALKED TO ONE GIRL FOR EVERY PORN VIDEO YOU WATCHED YOU WOULD GET A GIRL GUARANTEED. There are guys that easily open 10 porn videos in a session and basically jerk off every day. In a month that's 300 videos. Go talk to 300 girls in a month and you'll have a girlfriend.

Glad I'm porn free. Glad I like real sex more.

 

[Preety_India]

29 minutes ago, Jai said:

Get some self respect and go out and find a girl to date

Hahaha. Good one lol. And this coming from guy, now shit can't be more hilarious than this. 

You're right. ???

 

[Onemanwolfpac]

1 hour ago, Jai said:

Most guys don't have a porn problem. Most guys have a "getting sex" problem. If getting sex with a few new girls a week were effortless the porn problem would magically disappear. However getting sex is difficult and requires effort not short term gratification.

Porn is horrible for the masculine psyche... it basically internalizes that real sex is for other people and all you can do is watch it.

The next time I have sex I'll invite you over to my place and you can jerk off in the corner? Sound like a good idea? Of course not, unless you're a cuck. Get some self respect and go out and find a girl to date and have sex with instead of being a cuck and jerking off to some other guy having sex.

Honestly, though porn is actually a GOOD thing for guys who DON'T WATCH IT.  So many men watch it and basically have nothing to offer women sexually that there are so many more options for guys who don't watch it.

The next time you jerk off to porn think: at the same moment some guy is having real sex with a hot girl. Which guy do you want to be?

The next time you jerk off to porn think: there is some guy that is uglier, less cool and with a smaller dick than you that is having sex with a real girl 

The next time you jerk off to porn think: IF YOU TALKED TO ONE GIRL FOR EVERY PORN VIDEO YOU WATCHED YOU WOULD GET A GIRL GUARANTEED. There are guys that easily open 10 porn videos in a session and basically jerk off every day. In a month that's 300 videos. Go talk to 300 girls in a month and you'll have a girlfriend.

Glad I'm porn free. Glad I like real sex more.

 

Porn is cucked lol. An alarming amount of Christian married men watch it because they aren't getting any at home. Very sad. Funny given i watched the tiger woods south park episode where they all freak out about sex addiction. They can't understand why rich and attractive men want to have lots of sex with tons of women not their wife. The show cracks me up. Tiger woods apology and the south park golf club skit is hilarious. 

[Raze]

11 hours ago, Lyubov said:

. It's an expression of sexuality which we as humans are hardwired for. 

It's not, humans did not evolve to watch sex on a screen like that. It rewires the mind. 

[Nahm]

Subjectivity, the sneaky transparent lens.  

[LfcCharlie4]

@Jai ^^^^^
 

So true. 
 

It makes men so, so lazy. 
 

Easier to jack off to some model everyday, instead of becoming a man capable of getting the women of your dreams, and that goes way beyond looks. 
 

It’s a waste of energy, sexual energy is a life force, and if you’re going to use that to a screen, well it just seems like a waste to me, you could use that energy towards your dating, career, health, spirituality etc.

However, I also agree guilting isn’t the way, it’s better to get to the root of the use and use “NoFap” as a springboard to. Much more holistic versions of Personal Development that goes beyond not watching porn. 

[AtheisticNonduality]

10 hours ago, Raze said:

It's not, humans did not evolve to watch sex on a screen like that. It rewires the mind. 

Humans weren't hardwired to sit around and type stuff on forums.  It rewires the mind.

[Jai]

After I wrote this yesterday I actually felt kinda bad because of the confrontational tone of my message.

I think I wrote it like that because I challenged myself that way to change and it has been successful.

I don't want to put anyone down.

But I do want to emphasis that porn impedes you from reaching the real goal which is to meet a girl and to have a great sex life.

Because of this I don't think porn is "sex positive"... putting a penis in a vagina is sex positive and things that help you to get to that goal are sex positive.

Discipline in my sex life has a huge benefit. Being on a weekly semen retention schedule has a huge benefit. Healthy masturbation thinking about a girl I already had sex with or a girl I want to have sex with has a positive benefit. On a psychological level this is so much better because you are using your imagination to put yourself in a scenario and to act it out.

If you like porn so much... go make a porn with a girl. That's sex positive lol. Just don't watch other guys getting having sex when you can't go and make it happen in your own life.

[Preety_India]

 

The point of healthy sexuality  was discussed in another thread between me and ijb. 

If anyone wants to get some good points. Me and him had a really good conversation on this. 

 

[Gili Trawangan]

39 minutes ago, Jai said:

But I do want to emphasis that porn impedes you from reaching the real goal which is to meet a girl and to have a great sex life.

What you said is fine, and I actually agree from a certain perspective.

But notice the relativity of the whole thing. Real goal? For you maybe. What if one is at a stage in life where having real sex is not a goal and is actually a waste of time? What if one is focused on other things and doesn't have the time to, or doesn't want to, go out and meet real girls? And if that person also still has a sex drive and needs sexual release?

43 minutes ago, Jai said:

Because of this I don't think porn is "sex positive"... putting a penis in a vagina is sex positive and things that help you to get to that goal are sex positive.

Again with the goal... just realize that this is your goal now, this can easily change in the future. Sex positive is a relative notion.

That said, for most guys what you said applies. Again, it's relative.

[Raze]

10 hours ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

Humans weren't hardwired to sit around and type stuff on forums.  It rewires the mind.

There are specific pathways in the brain designed for sex. Porn is literally conditioning it to behave differently. Simple explanation as too why it's not the same, how intense does it feel to masturbate to porn compared to how intense it feels to talk on a forum? The intensity is the result of serious chemical reactions in the body that are addictive.

[Raze]

6 hours ago, Gili Trawangan said:

What you said is fine, and I actually agree from a certain perspective.

But notice the relativity of the whole thing. Real goal? For you maybe. What if one is at a stage in life where having real sex is not a goal and is actually a waste of time? What if one is focused on other things and doesn't have the time to, or doesn't want to, go out and meet real girls? And if that person also still has a sex drive and needs sexual release?

Again with the goal... just realize that this is your goal now, this can easily change in the future. Sex positive is a relative notion.

That said, for most guys what you said applies. Again, it's relative.

Porn doesn't just give you a sexual release. It changes you, dulls your senses, and it's addictive. If something has a 30% chance of addicting you, that is serious. There are now hundreds of accounts of men who quit porn saying that it's changing their lives, they think clearer, have less anxiety and depression, and feel butterflies when a girl smiles at them. 

[Hello from Russia]

To be honest, it is heavily one-sided and biased heavily against porn.

Consider this: If you'd sleep with a woman everytime you jerk off, how likely you would develop the same issues?

I think the likelihood is a lot.

So, maybe, not the porn itself is a problem, but the act of constant fucking\masturbating itself?