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[bejapuskas]

@Leo Gura  What is your goal with all this? 

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, bejapuskas said:

@Leo Gura  What is your goal with all this? 

Total self understanding and demonstration of infinite love.

[Psychonaut]

31 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No, no, no!

It's not the DPT. It's what you use it for.

You're not using it with the right intentions. It can only give you as much as you desire of it.

Your desire must be Cosmic Understanding. Forget the music, you must want to UNDERSTAND yourself. ALL. OF. YOURSELF!

Your curiosity must run so deep that you will not stop until you have God's total omniscience and all of the universe accounted for. Seek to understanding EVERYTHING! Cause you can. God can know itself totally, from the smallest to the biggest.

Plugging it is paramount, so you have the time necessary to contemplate. 50-70mg is when it starts to get really amazing for me.

Maybe I don't want to understand. 

Maybe I don't think understanding has any value to it? 

Tbh I don't think there is any value to anything you are saying about God and everything. It is like listening to cars pass by on a road. It doesn't concern me. 

So Dpt is not really for me then. 

[bejapuskas]

@Leo Gura  I am just curious, how is your everyday experience without DPT, do you feel more fulfilled? Because if this doesn't lead to fulfillment, I don't know what does. I only know the Leo from the videos  

[Enlightenment]

@Leo Gura Lately I've been thinking that maybe the highest insights are only possible if are stage 10 meditator and then do high dose psychedelics. Unfortunately, people are either hard psychedelic users with not much experience with meditation or vice versa. I'm very interested in what Shinzen or Culadasa would say about 5-MeO or DPT breakthrough.

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Their methods and teachings are too weak, too crude, and too shallow.

What do you mean by too crude methods?

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At those levels of conscious you could barely function in the world.

I would not be able to do anything in DPT breakthrough

Edited July 5, 2019 by Enlightenment

[peanutspathtotruth]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Your desire must be Cosmic Understanding. Forget the music, you must want to UNDERSTAND yourself. ALL. OF. YOURSELF!

This is so so true and so important to understand! I stayed away from psychedelics for about 6-7 months with minor mini doses in between. My nondual understanding, curiosity and orientation towards all of life shifted dramatically. I contemplated reality a lot and really got soaked in the pull of wanting to know what THIS HERE is. With this new orientation, I did LSD (~270) three days ago. Wow... I did much more in the past but nothing I ever experienced in my life ever came close to this latest trip. It's been a completely new level compared to all tripping I ever did before. And the orientation of inquiry and contemplation was the doorway. It's not about the psychedelic at all, they are merely tools (beautiful ones <3).

I'm so grateful for your guidance and sharings, all of you!

[Gili Trawangan]

5 minutes ago, peanutspathtotruth said:

This is so so true and so important to understand! I stayed away from psychedelics for about 6-7 months with minor mini doses in between. My nondual understanding, curiosity and orientation towards all of life shifted dramatically. I contemplated reality a lot and really got soaked in the pull of wanting to know what THIS HERE is. With this new orientation, I did LSD (~270) three days ago. Wow... I did much more in the past but nothing I ever experienced in my life ever came close to this latest trip. It's been a completely new level compared to all tripping I ever did before. And the orientation of inquiry and contemplation was the doorway. It's not about the psychedelic at all, they are merely tools (beautiful ones <3).

I'm so grateful for your guidance and sharings, all of you!

I'm going to try LSD for the first time soon. I haven't tried psychedelics in six months, but have been meditating and self-inquiring a lot. Can you expand on what you mean by orientation of inquiry and contemplation? Any tips?@peanutspathtotruth

sorry this might be off-topic...

Edited July 5, 2019 by Gili Trawangan
off-topic?

[peanutspathtotruth]

6 minutes ago, Gili Trawangan said:

Can you expand on what you mean by orientation of inquiry and contemplation? Any tips?@peanutspathtotruth

I mean when there's a real interest in every moment to see what's true, this interest, this wanting to know is what gets you deeper into seeing the truth when you're tripping. That doesn't mean to understand conceptually, but to see directly what is already so. So it's an understanding of wanting to grasp what is directly present right here and right now. There is no need to go anywhere with your mind. Watch Leo's videos "What is Actuality" and "What is Reality" before your trip, that can supercharge your curiosity.

I also love Rupert Spira's meditations and Yoga meditations. They are amazing contemplations of what is true. I started my trip with one of those. Highly recommended. Here is an example:
 

 

Edited July 5, 2019 by peanutspathtotruth

[Esoteric]

@Leo Gura With tapping into the collective of a certain species it makes me think of that banned TED talk from Rupert Sheldrake. His morphic resonance theory where his hypothesis is that for example rats in London learns a trick and then rats in New York learns it way faster because it gets remembered in the collective of the species. Does your direct experience say it is so? 

So I am God right, and I am centered here and everything I see is imaginery. So if I look at "you", also centered, we are looking at "eachother" from the same center but will have a different visual field obviously? Is this what you mean? I hope that made sense

Your latest videos have really blown my mind, 5-meo-dmt (omniscience), dpt and the reality one. I've gotten many insights from them. It's great that you share so much in various forms and I am grateful that you do.

[Psychonaut]

Lol I can't take any of this seriously anymore.

Am at 65mg DPT 25 minutes in. Boring, I am just going lift some weights now. Seems like a better use of my time. Maybe I die of cardiac arest. Who cares. I am not the first. 

Makes me think, when the best thing I think of doing is lifting some weights. Is that a good or bad thing? Is this the best or the only thing I can do?

Edited July 5, 2019 by Psychonaut

[Enlightenment]

2 hours ago, Psychonaut said:

Am at 65mg DPT 25 minutes in. Boring, I am just going lift some weights now. Seems like a better use of my time. Maybe I die of cardiac arest. Who cares. I am not the first. 

Maybe God just wants you to lift weights ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, Psychonaut said:

Maybe I don't want to understand. 

Maybe I don't think understanding has any value to it? 

Tbh I don't think there is any value to anything you are saying about God and everything. It is like listening to cars pass by on a road. It doesn't concern me. 

So Dpt is not really for me then. 

With that attitude you will never understand.

7 hours ago, bejapuskas said:

@Leo Gura  I am just curious, how is your everyday experience without DPT, do you feel more fulfilled? Because if this doesn't lead to fulfillment, I don't know what does. I only know the Leo from the videos  

It's hard to explain. Subtle shifts are produced.

4 hours ago, Esoteric said:

@Leo Gura With tapping into the collective of a certain species it makes me think of that banned TED talk from Rupert Sheldrake. His morphic resonance theory where his hypothesis is that for example rats in London learns a trick and then rats in New York learns it way faster because it gets remembered in the collective of the species. Does your direct experience say it is so? 

Somewhat, but it's way more profound than that. There aren't really harmonic fields per se. Consciousness is totally direct. It imagines stuff into being. It's totally mystical. You can't map it out in a scientific or analytic way.

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So I am God right, and I am centered here and everything I see is imaginery. So if I look at "you", also centered, we are looking at "eachother" from the same center but will have a different visual field obviously? Is this what you mean? I hope that made sense

Yes

I am imagining me and you and you are imagining you and me.

This is known as Indra's Net. And infinite web of diamonds all reflecting one another.

Sort of like two mirrors facing each other and reflecting each other to infinity.

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Your latest videos have really blown my mind, 5-meo-dmt (omniscience), dpt and the reality one. I've gotten many insights from them. It's great that you share so much in various forms and I am grateful that you do.

Glad you like em.

3 hours ago, Psychonaut said:

Lol I can't take any of this seriously anymore.

Am at 65mg DPT 25 minutes in. Boring, I am just going lift some weights now. Seems like a better use of my time. Maybe I die of cardiac arest. Who cares. I am not the first. 

Makes me think, when the best thing I think of doing is lifting some weights. Is that a good or bad thing? Is this the best or the only thing I can do?

Tolerance to psychedelics varies greatly between people. DPT just may not mesh well with your brain or body. Maybe you need a much larger dose. Or maybe it won't work on you at all.

Or maybe your technique is off.

All this requires careful investigation to figure out.

It's worth figuring out.

[bejapuskas]

@Leo Gura  I think you've become better at communicating here on the forum, more interested and maybe even loving  But Nahm is still the God of Love  

[Leo Gura]

@bejapuskas Nahm is a Carebear

 

[bejapuskas]

@Leo Gura  Hm... This is interesting  I've always been thinking about - doesn't „too much love“ cause the other person to strenghten their ego, because they are being too much accepted? It's probably that my notion of love is wrong, but I think I have good teachers, so I am headed in the good general direction  What is you opinion on this?

[Galyna]

34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

With that attitude you will never understand.

It's hard to explain. Subtle shifts are produced.

Somewhat, but it's way more profound than that. There aren't really harmonic fields per se. Consciousness is totally direct. It imagines stuff into being. It's totally mystical. You can't map it out in a scientific or analytic way.

Yes

I am imagining me and you and you are imagining you and me.

This is known as Indra's Net. And infinite web of diamonds all reflecting one another.

Sort of like two mirrors facing each other and reflecting each other to infinity.

Glad you like em.

Tolerance to psychedelics varies greatly between people. DPT just may not mesh well with your brain or body. Maybe you need a much larger dose. Or maybe it won't work on you at all.

Or maybe your technique is off.

All this requires careful investigation to figure out.

It's worth figuring out.

“I am imagining me and you and you are imagining you and me.” - Leo, this is so important, can you pls extrapolate about this in more details, I wish you would make the entire video about this subject. Lots of peoples are confused and take it as solipsism. 

[Sempiternity]

35 minutes ago, Galyna said:

“I am imagining me and you and you are imagining you and me.” - Leo, this is so important, can you pls extrapolate about this in more details, I wish you would make the entire video about this subject. Lots of peoples are confused and take it as solipsism. 

I second that. It is the most confusing aspect of all this. On one hand you say everyone doesn't exist, just imaginary characters, that don't even exist when they're not in your direct visual field, and another saying people do exist and each have their own reality and a collective shared consciousness. It seems contradictory. But I'm sure will get explained as simple a strange loop, but would love a in depth explanation of this. 

[Sempiternity]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Once you realize that, the doors are wide open for all sorts of impossible-seeming things, like healing every child on the planet simultaneously by imagining it to be so.

So if you (God) altered Reality like this to heal every child on the planet, and perform other miracles, would this be experienced by everyone else? Meaning, would these miracles only be in your (Leo's) own dimension/reality, as everyone in your reality is your imagination? Or is reality shared, like it seems, so you making these huge alterations to the world would be experienced by everyone? In which case you would be considered to be like a living God. 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, bejapuskas said:

@Leo Gura  Hm... This is interesting  I've always been thinking about - doesn't „too much love“ cause the other person to strenghten their ego, because they are being too much accepted? It's probably that my notion of love is wrong, but I think I have good teachers, so I am headed in the good general direction  What is you opinion on this?

Too much love? LOL

No such thing. Love is infinite.

24 minutes ago, Jed Vassallo said:

I second that. It is the most confusing aspect of all this. On one hand you say everyone doesn't exist, just imaginary characters, that don't even exist when they're not in your direct visual field, and another saying people do exist and each have their own reality and a collective shared consciousness. It seems contradictory. But I'm sure will get explained as simple a strange loop, but would love a in depth explanation of this. 

And it will remain confusing as long as you belief you were born.

You cannot understand it because ego is in the way. You think you are a biological self. No such thing exists. That self is imaginary.

21 minutes ago, Jed Vassallo said:

So if you (God) altered Reality like this to heal every child on the planet, and perform other miracles, would this be experienced by everyone else? Meaning, would these miracles only be in your (Leo's) own dimension/reality, as everyone in your reality is your imagination? Or is reality shared, like it seems, so you making these huge alterations to the world would be experienced by everyone? In which case you would be considered to be like a living God. 

Yes, by everyone. You would be altering the collective consciousness of all beings. But this is not easy to do.

You can alter the collective consciousness of all beings because you are all beings.

But you'd need to be so conscious that there is no more difference between you, other beings, real, or imaginary.

[bejapuskas]

@Leo Gura  So if you become a better demonstration of Love than you are now, it will bring more focus and and attentiveness into your communication style, rather than what most people label as love, right?