Leo Gura

Spiral Dynamics Stage Green Examples Mega-Thread

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@Key Elements LOL, drunk bitches making out at the club is more like stage Orange :P


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo Gura ok, but this song is sung by a lot of LGBTQ singers, including my bi friend. He sings really nice. I wish I had that type of voice.

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@Leo Gura hey Leo, if you make LGBTQ friends, and let's assume that you've made all musical friends who like to sing all different kinds of music. (Cause not everyone likes music.) I wonder if the two friends who are singing are likely to sing:

"I kissed a girl and I liked it..." ???

I think they're likely to sing it if one or both friends are not straight. This thought came to my mind.

This song also sounds like a person who just discovered that he/she is of a different sexual orientation, or, a person of two sexual orientations. (For instance, he/she is both gay and transgender.)

Ok, I didn't really hear the first few lines of the song, "I got so brave, drink in hand...lost my intention..." So, you're probably right. However, I find it has double meanings, esp when gay guys sing it.

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@cypres Don't quote me on this, but I think I remember reading that Ted was a very smart college student in some sort of STEM program who was abducted and given all sorts of powerful hallucinogens by the CIA as part of MKULTRA, which fucked him up bad. Had this never happened, the odds of him becoming an anti-industrial terrorist would've been significantly smaller. 

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@Key Elements If you're looking for good LGBT song, try this one:

 


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo Gura I was just singing a bunch of songs with my friend and wondering where on the spiral some of them are. Thanks for the song.

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On 9/4/2018 at 2:56 AM, Taylor04 said:

Leo is an example of stage green. His analysis is distinctly fawning of green, and disliking of orange. He even ascribes some green attributes to yellow in his spiral dynamics video series, such as belief in warmism. (I suspect so he can pretend his greenness is a higher stage.) Belief in an invisible threat in the sky is tier 1 religion. Tier 2 is no longer superstitious. Yellow is NOT worried about its carbon footprint, because yellow has moved away from the psychological need for such beliefs. Green did not anticipate this (yellow) change, and thus leaves it out and pretends the rest of the spectrum subscribes to it because it is reality. Yellow understands the systemic solutions to for example environmental issues, and therefore does not support tier 1 social engineering. Green only understands social engineering, and therefore thinks all stages must be into it.

Greens tend to see orange as controlling everything, while in reality green has been the dominant meme in western culture for decades. It is typically green to overlook their own dominance, and see the last vestiges of orange power as evil right wingers running everything.

Also, it is typical for greens to not understand libertarianism and lump it in with "selfish" orange, as he does. Orange is not both capitalist AND libertarian. Orange is only capitalist, and yellow is libertarian. Greens dont understand that distinction because they lack the systemic thinking ability to understand why libertarianism isnt selfish, but just proposes solutions that rely on systemic effects they (the greens) cant understand.

And vegeterianism is green. Tier 2 is not malnourished.

Edit: And Leo's epistemology seems to be a (more reasonably articulated) version of stage green postmodernism.

@Taylor04 There is a lot to unpack here my friend. First, do you really think Leo is at stage green? His entire platform and life purpose revolves around gaining knowledge, exploring reality and truth, different perspectives and models of reality. Green is not so interested and obsessed with knowledge, wisdom and perspectives. YELLOW is however. Also, Leo is obviously more individualistic and masculine, again traits of stage yellow. Although I will apply some self awareness in saying the characterizing a person as being fully at one stage or another is not productive or very accurate. I think you would be hard pressed to find a single true libertarian at stage yellow, as it is precisely by gaining a more nuanced and broader perspective past "stealing is wrong, taxation is stealing so taxation is wrong" that you see the severe limits of libertarianism. I identified with libertarianism up until fairly recently so I understand the belief in it. Ok on to the next thing. global warming is, according to the vast majority of western scientists (who are at stage orange might i add) very real and already having major effects on the planet. Yes, green probably cares about it the most, but that doesn't make less of a real threat. I don't think libertarianism is selfish for the record, but I do recognize now that it is ineffective at meeting the needs of the majority of people. "And vegeterianism is green. Tier 2 is not malnourished." again, majority of stage orange doctors would disagree with you. It's not a factual statement. Leo isn't even vegetarian to my knowledge. Im curious which stages you would place yourself on. I encourage you to actually research some of this stuff rather than going on assumptions. In terms of green being the dominant meme in western society... i just don't know how you could think that. why are our political leaders at orange / blue entirely still? why do we have a capitolist, individualistic society that is obsessed with science and technology as well as consumerism and competition. why is this the case if western society is at green?

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"Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down"   --   Marry Poppins

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Porn Stars are, for the most part at stage orange, but Nicole Aniston recently has shown herself as a stage green porn star talking about healing substances, practices like meditation and defending animal rights and doing sustainability activities.  
it's really good to see and hear these things that people, regardless of the work that they're doing are evolving up in the spiral dynamic, especially in the porn industry that we always witness pure stage orange perspectives and activities.
Nicole Aniston has had growth in her consciousness, and therefore, she has made different choices.

This interview is the latest video of her expressing her perception and knowledge. 

 

Edited by hamedsf

"If you kick me when I'm down, you better pray I don't get up"

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