Leo Gura

Discussion: The End Of Reputation & Rank?

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@Leo Gura you're picking at straws. ego is going to be here, as it is everywhere. even if you removed all profiles it would still remain, the one who posts and the posts she has not written. . . the posts she has written in the past even tho nothing shows others it was her, she is proud of them or shamed...

 

why do you take on this burden of others to your own sake? you give us plenty of insight nudges to teach us how to stop depending on ego to survive. that is enough, you are removing tools that are used for good because you hate that they are used for evil. but I thought there was no good nor evil? you fight a war as if you are the only soldier who matters. what an ego xD

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Bring it back I say.

To be honest I found the rep system to be a pretty decent indicator of post quality most of the time.

I don't want to spend much of my time on internet forums so I don't have any desires to sift through dozens of post to find a good one. I'll probably just end up judging what's worth reading by how familiar the poster is to me, which is much worse than how individual posts ranked.

Also, how am I supposed to get my social validation now? Don't get that rush anymore.

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5 hours ago, Light Lover said:

I'm loving this new system personally, just as I expected, defintely a step in the right direction! If you leave because of a change like this, then it is painfully obvious that you are not fit for this forum and only care about your stupid ass rep points and not actually doing PD or helping others in it. Sorry to anyone who feels like this, but it is the truth I feel :P

I agree.  I feel less "dirty" participating on here how.  Before I could tell that Ego was much more involved.  Now I am just one among peers.  I don't like the whole social media life.  But I do like this Forum, and I have grown so much from my participation on here.  It's good to be humble in this work, it really is.  

Edited by Joseph Maynor

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I prefer the rep system removed for a few reasons:

Rep creates a dopamine spike much like a social media addiction

It causes favoritism among certain users 

People seem to be communicating more now

Hopefully it will make conversations for newer members more comfortable for them without feeling like they need to appease an artificial pecking order

It reduces group think and taking sides

Ect, ect.

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On 1/10/2018 at 8:38 AM, Shin said:

We could remove the post count too, I can't seem to understand its usefulness.

Yes.  And the number of views as well.  Get rid of both of those too Leo if you really want to clean house.

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Leo still has a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the Actualized reality.

Leo has a dream that one day this forum will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all posters are created equal."

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18 hours ago, Outer said:

Not to offend you, but you barely use the forum. I base that on the amount of posts you've done. Maybe we should remove the post count as well if I self-reflect. Fuck fake competence when it comes to this.

Avatar and username is enough to separate between users, let us judge upon their words.

I'm not sure why you highlighted my usage, but to that point I'm all for removing the counts. I made another post advocating for quality over quantity. I believe the upvote button helps remove unnecessary "I agree" posts. Keeping the rep counts private (on both user level and post level) removes the group think while maintaining feelings of connectedness. 

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@blazed Hahaha. That was fun. You'll have to imagine that I pressed it. Sorry doesn't get better than that..


"Maybe aliens is sitting somewhere up there looking at this at like a video feed and jerking off to it. You don't know!" - Leo Gura, 2018

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1 hour ago, hundreth said:

I'm not sure why you highlighted my usage, but to that point I'm all for removing the counts. I made another post advocating for quality over quantity. I believe the upvote button helps remove unnecessary "I agree" posts. Keeping the rep counts private (on both user level and post level) removes the group think while maintaining feelings of connectedness. 

Let's remove EVERYTHING and see what's left. Being. Lol..


"Maybe aliens is sitting somewhere up there looking at this at like a video feed and jerking off to it. You don't know!" - Leo Gura, 2018

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28 minutes ago, blazed said:

This is what spiritual work is about, we keep deconstructing ourselves like peeling an onion to only realise there is nothing! all the layers of the onion is what makes the onion, underneath it all we are nothing.

At that point the ego says "nope, nope, nope", and starts putting it all back together lol.

PS. thanks for the like, i really appreciate it, it means a lot to me.

I really don't agree with this idea that the forum should be some kind of metaphor for spirituality or enlightenment. If you want to keep deconstructing the forum and approaching nothing just shut the whole thing down lol

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On 1/3/2018 at 3:09 AM, Leo Gura said:

Yea or nay?

A bit late, but I agree... good idea!


The Matrix is everywhere, it is all around us, even now in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

Morpheus (The Matrix)

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I don’t think I would have grown as fast as I did without asking all the questions on here that I have.  Those questions were my unique way of growing.  So, I oppose any kind of limitations on numbers of questions asked on that basis.  But I do appreciate the motive of trying to help people stay on track more.  That’s a good motive.  Although maybe more social people than me  or you might need more of a social element in their work Leo.  You and I both being introverts may bias us to pooh-pooh this kind of socializing, but I think others may need some of that on their more social path.  I noticed that the posts to the jokes section have skyrocketed since this change, and I wonder if that is where that energy and desire to connect is being channeled.  As INTPs we have a tendency to think we know what’s best for everyone, and we are not very socially attuned either.  So, keep that in mind.  Play things by ear.  Listen to the extroverts tell you what they need to be happily pursuing their growth on this Forum.  What they resonate with might be different than what you or I might resonate with.  And we wanna respect everyone’s freedom to pursue this work authentically — however that might manifest on the Forum, right?  That’s one reason why, initially, I was for leaving things as they were.  We’re all very different people with very different paths in this work.  

Edited by Joseph Maynor

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I hate that the reputation is gone. I see the negative side of a reputation system, but I relied a lot on the positive to distinguish between users, posts, do research etc. Especially when I just browse through stuff or see what develops in what way. What are ppl liking right now, what are the trends, what are ppl disliking etc (I'm a computer scientist).

I think, @Leo Gura, that you don't solve the problem by getting rid of the technology (the symptom), I think the ppl that are high-consciousness enough will use it correctly an the ones that aren't, gonna find a new way to get addicted.

So yeah, please turn it off. It stinks.


They want reality, so I give 'em a fatal dosage.

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I personally didn't mind the spidermonkey and astral ape stuff, I thought it was hilarious. 


"You can't handle the truth!" - Jack Nicholson 

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Come on. Are we still going at this? This thread has become a distraction of its own.

 

 

Edited by SFRL

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3 hours ago, Azrael said:

I hate that the reputation is gone. I see the negative side of a reputation system, but I relied a lot on the positive to distinguish between users, posts, do research etc. Especially when I just browse through stuff or see what develops in what way. What are ppl liking right now, what are the trends, what are ppl disliking etc (I'm a computer scientist).

I think, @Leo Gura, that you don't solve the problem by getting rid of the technology (the symptom), I think the ppl that are high-consciousness enough will use it correctly an the ones that aren't, gonna find a new way to get addicted.

So yeah, please turn it off. It stinks.

agree. it was a lot more efficient before 

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I will just briefly state how my browsing patterns have changed after the reputation system was gone:

I google search and go to a blog that looks trustworthy instead of going through all the posts on the forum and trying very hard to determine which is good information and which is bad information. 

Background information: Currently I am trying to reduce overall internet time, fast scrolling/browsing of internet texts, and unnecessary thinking/decision making time. This is just the stage I am personally at and the new format doesn't agree with these behavioral changes. 

 

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27 minutes ago, blazed said:

All of you complaining about having to read through information or not having society cherry pick favourites for you.

Unplug your computer, and throw it out the window.

Go to a cave and practice some f---king patience, this the problem with the internet and your stupid f--ked up minds.

You want things fast, instant, novelty, swipe to the left, you ain't got time for anything anymore, this why you get bored easily, this why you can't hold long term relationships, this why you can't f--king focus, this why you can't follow your life purpose or build the skills you need. This is why you can't be in the moment, this is why you can't saviour the food you eat to it's maximum, this is why you can't stay present.

What's next you want us to highlight the books you read and summarise it as a TL:DR read conclusions?

Technology in an attempt to make people more productive and get things done fast counterintuitively has actually just made human minds very lazy and impatient.

This even happens to extreme amounts in video games, this is why we have genre such as "oldschool" or "hardcore", because games today have been so dumbed down because people don't even want to make effort in a game (whilst sitting on a f--king couch or chair), they just want to button smash and complete a game, what's the point? Why not watch a movie then? wasn't the whole idea of a game to challenge one self in their free time? Wasn't that what chess, word search, sudoku, minesweeper all about? Excercising the brain?

Want to find useful information relevant to you instead of what society likes? get good at "scanning" and "identiying", and stop wanting to be spoon fed everything.

Mate mate mate... You're projecting a little too much - did ya see the newest video on criticism?

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2 minutes ago, blazed said:

Did you see the part where the said to not use the video to point it out to others? See the paradox? As soon as you're not ok with someone else criticizing you join the hyena club.

There was no point to your post it's just straw man, just a diversion to what I was saying. It's so empty in it's message.

Haha, I simply pointed out an observation, I'm not using anything in the video against you for a debate. Did I say I wasn't okay with it? - sure maybe you thought I implied that, but that's still you projecting. But I couldn't really care any less, but when I scrolled down and saw your comment stressing yourself out for no reason - I figured I'd slip you a little reminder of the week's lesson.

Projections a bitch my dude, I'll tell ya from experience.

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20 minutes ago, blazed said:

Man stfu, talking about projection with more projection.

I guess every motivational speaker is stressing out every time they shove a kick up other's asses then.

Before the critizing video leo made an other video calling out some people as "undeveloped mother f--kers"

Well I think the same applies to people who want to be spoon fed, they're some "undeveloped mother f--kers"

Oh I'm highly underdeveloped consciously, I would never not admit that. I'd say I'm probably in between stage blue/orange. I have no issue admitting that.

But when you're on the forums basically screaming at people, demanding them do something a certain way in the name of "SELF ACTUALIZING!"... Well sure I'm definitely low conscious enough that I'll call you out on in, and it wasn't even in a hostile manner either. You're simply dealing with some sort of stress in the real world, and taking it out via the forums. Been there, done that.

Now what's your plan of action? Keep on at it while knowing your ego is flaring up because of a systemic response to something else you're not dealing with? Sure, go for it if ya think it's therapeutic. Doesn't really affect me. But know it's doing a substantial amount more damage to yourself than I or anyone else you're directing your comments to.

Edited by Omni

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