My Latest Solipsistic Insight

[Leo Gura]

God means that you are hallucinating Reality.

Stop overcomplicating that. It is simple and clear.

Edited 10 hours ago by Leo Gura

[BlessedLion]

With all due respect when will you admit you might be wrong on this one? Literally no teacher, mystic or consciousness Titan is in agreement with solopsism in the definition that others are not conscious and the way of framing it is unfalsifiable, how do YOU know that you’re not just firewalled into your own consciousness and don’t have access to other minds? Why can't multiple consciousnesses exist at once and just be closed off from each other?

[BlessedLion]

On 10/2/2026 at 2:31 PM, AtmanIsBrahman said:

I've been contemplating the question, "Can two consciousnesses exist?"

I came to the conclusion that the answer is no, and that's why solipsism is true. Here is an illustration:

 

It's impossible for 2 consciousnesses to mutually see each other because that is just a possibility imagined by consciousness. Consciousness is imagining the two people, and it itself is neither one of them. When you're assuming that other people exist, it's because you don't know what you are. You are not the body, nor any object of sense-perception. You are nothing.
As is shown in the drawing, the human "you" imagines yourself and someone else mutually seeing each other, but really there is just you seeing the other person. At first you think that "you" is your body, but the body is something that appears in consciousness, so it can't be the one that is seeing. The one that is seeing isn't the brain either, that's just more mental content. The source of seeing is NOTHING. In other words, the thing that is seeing is seeing itself. You are the SEER, and there are no other seers. 

If you think about it, it's obvious that the idea of two consciousnesses existing is absolutely ridiculous. What makes more sense, that there are millions of consciousnesses somehow seeing each other or that there is one seer imagining all of them? As Leo has explained, there is only one self-luminous Mind that could possibly exist. This means that when you are looking at someone in the eye, they can't actually see you.

All people and things are moving sense-objects generated by your own mind, and as soon as your mind stops they will stop moving like a wind-up toy. This is why no one survives your death, as Leo has explained. When you die, all of your imaginings get taken back with you because they were never real in the first place. So being worried about anything happening after your death is delusion -- it means you still believe in an external world. 

 

You think infinite consciousness is so limited? 

[Leo Gura]

47 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

Literally no teacher, mystic or consciousness

https://www.actualized.org/insights/profound-quotes-143

You see what you want to see.

You guys are still not grasping how serious "You are God" is. This is not a metaphor. You are literally God.

Edited 9 hours ago by Leo Gura

[PenguinPablo]

@Leo Gura But what can you do with that?

Sometimes if I drink enough caffeine it becomes quite obvious. I feel very optimistic and a healthy internal locus of control (obviously).

But when sober it's more dreadful and nightmarish. The piercing lazer focus of the caffeine that cuts through maya is not there to aid me through the heavy fog.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, PenguinPablo said:

@Leo Gura But what can you do with that?

Sometimes if I drink enough caffeine it becomes quite obvious. I feel very optimistic and a healthy internal locus of control (obviously).

But when sober it's more dreadful and nightmarish. The piercing lazer focus of the caffeine that cuts through maya is not there to aid me through the heavy fog.

So what??

That has nothing to do with anything.

God is always dreaming stupid things.

Edited 8 hours ago by Leo Gura

[PenguinPablo]

@Leo Gura I don't like to suffer.

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, PenguinPablo said:

@Leo Gura I don't like to suffer.

Then you shouldn't have been born.

[JoshB]

3 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

With all due respect when will you admit you might be wrong on this one? Literally no teacher, mystic or consciousness Titan is in agreement with solopsism in the definition that others are not conscious and the way of framing it is unfalsifiable, how do YOU know that you’re not just firewalled into your own consciousness and don’t have access to other minds? Why can't multiple consciousnesses exist at once and just be closed off from each other?

Absolute Infinite Conciousness confirms solipsism. You become so conscious that there cant be anything outside of it. 

[AtmanIsBrahman]

5 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

You think infinite consciousness is so limited? 

Do you have an actual argument or insight?

[Carl-Richard]

19 minutes ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

Do you have an actual argument or insight?

What argument do you need? It's tautological. The infinite doesn't inform you about any specific limitation. It informs you about all of them, which is limitless.

You cannot use the infinite to deduce anything finite. You can only "deduce" all of it.

[Leo Gura]

Everyone exists inside of your Mind. That's not a deduction.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

45 minutes ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

Do you have an actual argument or insight?

User is asking a question - which you can object to if you feel the framing is off.

But consider when someone asks a question they are seeking clarification on your position. Which is basic charity prior to presenting their argument against. Especially if they have accidentally misinterpreted your meaning.

[Nemra]

10 hours ago, Willy Phallicus said:

Key word being established.   Doesn't look like CR is referring to classic materialism.

But the way he is talking he might as well call it atheistic god realization and thats their personal counter to what others would call solipsism.

Like words are important in this process or something.

But when have materialism's core assumptions been different?

Some thinkers may have used the word "matter" differently, but those definitions wouldn't conform within materialism.

He wants to justify how solipsism is as bad as materialism and should be ignored, but doesn't want to admit that their structural asymmetry proves otherwise. I showed him how that is the case.

Sure, he can invent a new thing and slap materialism on it, but that's because known materialism breaks when trying to make it logically consistent with God.

He focuses on how people will abuse solipsism, which also works against him because God is way more abused than solipsism, and then he somehow is fine with people parroting words from spiritual traditions but not when it's from Leo. Somehow, appeal to authority is way more dangerous when people's vocabulary is similar to Leo's. 🤨

Edited 2 hours ago by Nemra

[kavaris]

Ive been liking "-copia" and "panspermia" as the new word, over solipsism, as "non-duality" is already pretty set in stone, and, if you needed another word just for more specificity, copia, pan, sperm, gaia/earth, thats like the macro scale vers., of whats like, a neo platonists view on the One, Nous, Consciousness... I mean, its all Being/Non duality, but the others are more of like a secondary thing.

[r0ckyreed]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/profound-quotes-143

You see what you want to see.

You guys are still not grasping how serious "You are God" is. This is not a metaphor. You are literally God.

I think what @BlessedLion is trying to say is there wouldn’t be a “you guys” not grasping. They couldn’t grasp since they are a dream NPC character programmed by whatever my mind is dreaming. So essentially, I am dreaming of actualized.org forum with Leo Gura teaching others about solipsism and awakening. But Leo Gura and all the others would be dream characters/NPCs relative to the Consciousness hallucinating them. What I dream doesn’t have a separate consciousness. It is my Consciousness. Leo Gura and all on this forum is an extension of my Consciousness. I cannot access “their” experience because my Consciousness is hallucinating it.

Whether or not I am “firewalled” into my own consciousness similarly to being confined in a prison from the rest of the world, I cannot ever know. But when I am firewalled into a prison, I know that there is an “external world” that I do not have access to that I am missing out on. There are beautiful waterfalls, there is Oregon, but I’m stuck in a prison where I cannot see the sun, trees, and lakes. My Consciousness is experiencing being walled off from the world, but it doesn’t mean the “world” doesn’t exist. I should not take the limits of my consciousness for the limits of reality. Being in that prison is like one of Plato’s Cavemen. They are walled off from a different reality, “Other minds”, “external world”.

I think Blessedlion is saying the solipsism claim is akin to being one of Plato’s Cavemen thinking the Cave is all that exists and there are no trees, lakes, or other minds but just you in the cave. In this Allegory, there are no other cavemen but you.

Edited 2 hours ago by r0ckyreed

[Joseph Maynor]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

God means that you are hallucinating Reality.

Stop overcomplicating that. It is simple and clear.

You say this in the abstract but then you ignore real life too.  

[Leo Gura]

16 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

there wouldn’t be a “you guys” not grasping.

There would if I imagined it.

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

There would if I imagined it.

Yeah but you didn't.  

[Nemra]

14 hours ago, JoshB said:

That's the thing you've never seen it, you've never seen another mind outside your own. But because your consciousness is absolute any projection you make becomes reality. And this is only achievable because there is nothing outside your mind. 

Whether you are imagining other or not there still is only your mind and nothing else

There can not be others internal experience relative to you because your experience is absolute. 

Other relative experiences can only be made out of your absolute experience. 

Which also makes you responsible for absolutely everything. And even most spiritual people can not handle this level of responsibility. It makes the world on your shoulders look like a pebble. 

The root of this whole problem stems from not understanding actuality or directness, which is why people treat the internal experience of others the same as their experience. This, in turn, leads to believing that there are real, independent experiences out there that are not their invention.

It's interesting that some people can claim that they are ultimately God and there are experiences outside of their own of the same quality which God has already created.

Edited 1 hour ago by Nemra