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Why are some unable to surrender the ego?

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I wasn’t able to surrender my ego and I want to know why. The reasons I’ve come up with is:

  • Immaturity: If you aren’t mature enough to handle the Truth you won’t do it.
  • Priorities: If you value survival and sanity over Truth you won’t go all the way.
  • Attachment: If you’re too attached to the dream you won’t let it go.
  • Fear: If you’re too afraid of the unknown (Truth) you won’t face it.

Another question I have is why did it begin to happen if I wasn’t ready?

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"It's the question that drives us Neo" - Trinity (The Matrix).

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Almost no one can transcend the ego because it's a real system, an evolutionary structure of enormous power that drives humans and makes them function like a vast, coordinated organism.

To transcend the ego, you must understand that it is precisely the ego that wants to transcend itself, and you must understand all the forces, the energetic layers that bind you to the reaction and reward system that keeps you trapped.

You must see with complete clarity everything that drives you and integrate it. Understand that you are that, and while you are that, take a step above the level of attachments, fears, and desires; then your mind will lose its limitations and become total. Oh, and you must also stop thinking that reality is a "dream" and you are going to see the "truth". Just open your psyche. 

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52 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Almost no one can transcend the ego because it's a real system, an evolutionary structure of enormous power that drives humans and makes them function like a vast, coordinated organism.

To transcend the ego, you must understand that it is precisely the ego that wants to transcend itself, and you must understand all the forces, the energetic layers that bind you to the reaction and reward system that keeps you trapped.

You must see with complete clarity everything that drives you and integrate it. Understand that you are that, and while you are that, take a step above the level of attachments, fears, and desires; then your mind will lose its limitations and become total. Oh, and you must also stop thinking that reality is a "dream" and you are going to see the "truth". Just open your psyche. 

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What if this is just fascination + identity + seriousness being inflated into universal importance?

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You say “some” as if there are other egos around. That is the illusion. Consciousness is dreaming up every ego.

Being completely conscious of everything/nothing is death. And nobody here is ready to die yet.


Beauty is all around Infinity 𑣲⋆。˚

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3 hours ago, Inception said:

I wasn’t able to surrender my ego and I want to know why. The reasons I’ve come up with is:

  • Immaturity: If you aren’t mature enough to handle the Truth you won’t do it.
  • Priorities: If you value survival and sanity over Truth you won’t go all the way.
  • Attachment: If you’re too attached to the dream you won’t let it go.
  • Fear: If you’re too afraid of the unknown (Truth) you won’t face it.

Another question I have is why did it begin to happen if I wasn’t ready?

You are the ego, so surrendering is to forfeit yourself.  No one wants to do that. I've always said that enlightenment via meditation has to have the element of surprise.  It has to happen quickly - within weeks- if it is too happen that way.  Otherwise a powerful psychedelic would be needed i would think. 


 

Wisdom.  Truth.  Love.

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3 hours ago, Inception said:

Fear: If you’re too afraid of the unknown (Truth) you won’t face it.

Bingo

3 hours ago, Inception said:

Another question I have is why did it begin to happen if I wasn’t ready?

The ego wanted enlightenment because it sounded good "I gotta get me some of that!". But it didn't realize the full implications. -Mainly its own demise.

 


When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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1. You have to forget some. You made all some. And thinking about some is chasing your own tail. 2. Why am I unable to surrender the ego? is the question. Because ego knows how to show me a good time. And I am here for good time not long time. I am going to keep doing the easy. All the while telling myself I am good and decent. 3. This I is made up. I see it but it lives in unreality. 4. I can step out any time. I don't want to. Life is good. Too good. I know the truth but like Augustine said, make me chaste O God just not today. 5. To step out I have to forgive what I see. Forgive means know it's nothing. I rather judge it. Because daddy knows best.

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5 hours ago, Inception said:

Another question I have is why did it begin to happen if I wasn’t ready?

Because the truth is glaringly obvious, it is impossible to ignore without dumbing & numbing yourself down.

No matter how prevalent falsehood is, truth always leaks in.

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The first thing to understand is that there are two levels of ego. The first is the social ego, which is the internalization of certain conditions necessary to be sufficient, acceptable. The individual operates from a servile, negative position: "I do this because otherwise I am insufficient."

This is what causes constant rumination. You can emancipate yourself from this and act from a completely sovereign position, without any inner judge evaluating your worth, but you are still trapped within the limits of the self.

Here we enter what is called "mysticism," which is actually quite mechanical. It is the dissolution of centrality and the subject/object structure, the disappearance of the observer and the idea of "consciousness" in order to open yourself to total reality. This requires a high level of detachment and an undeniable intention of openness.

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5 hours ago, cetus said:

The ego wanted enlightenment because it sounded good "I gotta get me some of that!". But it didn't realize the full implications. -Mainly its own demise.

I thought about that. Maybe I wasn’t ready for spirituality at all…

Perhaps spiritual teachings should come with a major warning and should only be taught to those who are ready for if. Maybe that’s a reason for them generally being esoteric.


"It's the question that drives us Neo" - Trinity (The Matrix).

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Focus less on getting rid of the ego and more on expanding your awareness of God.


Beauty is all around Infinity 𑣲⋆。˚

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9 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Focus less on getting rid of the ego and more on expanding your awareness of God.

That's what religions are for. You get to keep your ego while believing in a conceptual God. But in that case God will always be 'other'.


When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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45 minutes ago, Inception said:

Perhaps spiritual teachings should come with a major warning and should only be taught to those who are ready for if.

In that video of Leo's he gives a strong warning. If you're not yet ready for a life altering dose of Truth, don't watch it.


When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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