Where Have You Had Sex?

[LordFall]

3 minutes ago, questionreality said:

@LordFall She did the same thing with me. Just ignored my main point, pretended like she didn't notice it. She made me repeat it and for the 3rd time she just said "declined" and did not go any further. I thought it was just with me, but looks like it's a pattern.

It's definitely a common pattern for her. She also used push-pull against @Inliytened1 to pick apart his worst moments and then play nice afterwards.

Be careful with women gentlemen, they are ruthless. 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, LordFall said:

It's definitely a common pattern for her. She also used push-pull against @Inliytened1 to pick apart his worst moments and then play nice afterwards. Be careful with women gentlemen, they are ruthless. 

Ruthless.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Natasha Tori Maru The whole guy mindset is all fucked up, that's what pickup is all about.  It's how many women you can get in bed.  Right? Isn't that what pickup is all about?  So as a guy then you have decided to see how many you can take home.  So, that whole thing is wrong to begin with, and I'll be the first to admit I partake in it just as any other guy does.  And I do it willingly because I love pussy.  

I am... familiar with the carnal side of the male

To be perfectly honest - my view is that most women aren't aware of how overriding a drive it can be for many men. And it isn't just young men either. It is really interesting to read up on cases of trans people who take hormones. @Raze has linked some great videos in the past that help either sex get into the others head.

I dated a 60+ year older fella who was just as virile and consumed by women as any 18 year old.

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I am... familiar with the carnal side of the male

To be perfectly honest - my view is that most women aren't aware of how overriding a drive it can be for many men. And it isn't just young men either. It is really interesting to read up on cases of trans people who take hormones. @Raze has linked some great videos in the past that help either sex get into the others head.

I dated a 60+ year older fella who was just as virile and consumed by women as any 18 year old.

Well, i would always say, if we find the right one, we won't be thinking about screwing anyone else, and this is all true.  But now here comes @LordFall with this whole new perspective.  And it's like wow, i can have more than one?  It really brings out the carnal side.

Edited 1 hour ago by Inliytened1

[Asayake]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well, i would always say, if we find the right one, we won't be thinking about screwing anyone else, and this is all true.  But now here comes @LordFall with this whole new perspective.  And it's like wow, i can have more than one?  It really brings out the carnal side.

LordFalls perspective is not new its a power fantasy sold in redpill circles. The 3 women who are all supposed to be okay with sharing the one guy, definition of ego trip.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

21 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Well if we're gonna go full analyzing people's shadows here I wanna make a complaint against you as well.

I feel that many times you don't engage with the points said and run away when challenged with in depth arguments that invalidate your opinion. You try to turn it into tone policing when insult was never meant but your status was challenged and you resort to literal insults yourself.

You did it to me in this thread invalidating my points by calling it Dunning–Kruger effect and refusing to elaborate when challenged 

You did it to me in this thread as well; accusing me of being condescending while being condescending yourself. 

And multiple users have complained you backhanding insulting them on this thread here 

@questionreality Appreciate you my man. I try to add value and be objective. 

Yep I do fall into traps like that. I give up engaging and dismiss. Mostly when I think either 1) my point wont be received or 2) I run out of steam.

I don't think criticism is bad - even this directed at me.

You can asses and critisize someone and have good intentions, especially when it is valid like here. Which is why my kindness or warmth after is simply and expression of no ill intent. I tend to fall into the trap of intention outweighing outcome. It is from frustration regarding not being understood the first time, and then pushing which results in bad outcome. None of this excuses the results.

So I am happy to sincerely apologise (and I do so here!) to anyone I have hurt or offended through my rhetorical patterns of engagement.

Many times I don't express my meaning sufficiently originally, then I become upset internally and I become averse to continual engagement. It is my own ability to communicate that is an issue 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Asayake said:

LordFalls perspective is not new its a power fantasy sold in redpill circles. The 3 women who are all supposed to be okay with sharing the one guy, definition of ego trip.

Well there's an audience for it somewhere, so it works somwhere.  I wanna be there.

[Asayake]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well there's an audience for it somewhere, so it works somwhere.  I wanna be there.

What do you mean by that you wanna be there? 

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Asayake said:

What do you mean by that you wanna be there? 

Where it works. Polygamy.  It's the shit, the US just hasn't caught on.  But the women have to be OK with it too.. So i i think it is a delicacy 

[Eskilon]

3 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

You must have some kind of sleezeball-wiring, that’s why you can’t get over this, I don’t see another plausible explanation at this point. I’m sorry but even your profile pic, you look like one too, like that smile….😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Bro got infinite horniness awakening, lmao.

It's crazy funny because he did talk some good things on God, I guess he was at the mountain and after the experience ended he went straight to below animal baseline state of consciousness. The only way I can explain this.

Edited 1 hour ago by Eskilon

[LordFall]

@Natasha Tori Maru I appreciate your response and forgive you. I apologize as well for my aggressive attitude at times.

21 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Ruthless.

That's also what I like about them, true little tigers. I'm not really into helpless princesses, I want warrior queens at my side. 

 

12 minutes ago, Asayake said:

LordFalls perspective is not new its a power fantasy sold in redpill circles. The 3 women who are all supposed to be okay with sharing the one guy, definition of ego trip.

The problem with calling my perspective a common red pill trope is that one it's not and 2nd you fall into the trope of being the small minded sheltered man.

Polyamory is a well practiced thing with multiple different variations in how people arrange their relationships

There are cases of one man dating 3 woman. Cases of one women dating 3 man. Cases of two couples dating each other. Cases of kitchen table polyamory where everyone is involved and cases of parallel polyamory where it's more of a kiss but don't tell type of thing. 

Feel free to read through the polyamory subreddit to familiarize yourself with alternative dating lifestyles because you stereotype me inaccurately. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/polyamory/

[questionreality]

9 minutes ago, LordFall said:

It's definitely a common pattern for her. She also used push-pull against @Inliytened1 to pick apart his worst moments and then play nice afterwards.

Be careful with women gentlemen, they are ruthless. 

I would say it has more to do with certain types of people in general, not just women. The more someone’s image (or identity) is built around being , "highly conscious", more developed, unusually compassionate, wise etc the less I take that image as evidence of those qualities. Character is revealed much more reliably by how someone behaves when their values become inconvenient, especially toward people they dislike, disagree with, or have nothing to gain from. Authenticity is something that cannot be faked. 

[Ulax]

So whatever Leo's opinion is Natasha adopts and whatever Natasha's opinion is Valach adopts. Its like a little military chain of command 

[Asayake]

@Natasha Tori Maru I might have clashed with you in other threads but in fhis thread I dont think you did anything wrong as far as I can tell, arguably you were almost too forgiving & patient given Inliytened was also repeatedly hitting on you despite you trying to have a serious conversation.

I agree with your analysis in that: Inliytened did applogize for the way he worded it, but the way he worded it was just him showing his true colors and his behaviour that followed support this. He was more or less ragebaiting with his comments, he literally told me to dig up the question for him from the post of mine he replied to, not because he didnt know the question but because he wanted to make me do it for him, that rubbed me the wrong way and is why I wanted to block him, which I cant.

[Asayake]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Where it works. Polygamy.  It's the shit, the US just hasn't caught on.  But the women have to be OK with it too.. So i i think it is a delicacy 

You can go to a poor country and abuse your power there to get multiple women, good luck.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Asayake said:

You can go to a poor country and abuse your power there to get multiple women, good luck.

So you think one will satisfy you?  Are you satisfied now?

 

[LordFall]

1 minute ago, Ulax said:

So whatever Leo's opinion is Natasha adopts and whatever Natasha's opinion is Valach adopts. Its like a little military chain of command 

I wasn't even gonna gonna bring Valach into this but yes exactly what you said.

This was my favorite interaction with him when he tried to school me in spiral dynamics while clearly never having read the book and not understanding it beyond vague surface level. 

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, LordFall said:

I wasn't even gonna gonna bring Valach into this but yes exactly what you said.

This was my favorite interaction with him when he tried to school me in spiral dynamics while clearly never having read the book and not understanding it beyond vague surface level. 

Who the fuck is Valach anyway.  

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Inliytened1

[LordFall]

5 minutes ago, Asayake said:

You can go to a poor country and abuse your power there to get multiple women, good luck.

You went from calling alternative relationship formats an 'ego trip' straight to defaulting to racist exploitation tropes. Claiming you're protecting women while assuming they have zero agency to make their own relationship choices is peak hypocrisy.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Asayake Grateful for your honest assessment here. And to be understood. I tried to stick to just what was happening through evidence and move away from any sort of psychological understanding/interpretation. 

I think the most common types of friction and arguments on the forum are when meaning is taken and a psychological interpretation is being applied to members when it is all based on inference and there isn't sufficient evidence.

Most of the time I end up clashing here because I go for the epistemology behind someone's argument rather than the argument itself "how does this person know this though" and it can look like evasion or be irritating for others who want direct engagement (especially when I look for assumptions inn their argument first). I just really enjoy getting into how others think - but this can feel invasive if they do not perceive I am charitable (which often happens through poor rhetoric from me).

I want you to know I sincerely apologise for the clashes we have had.