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[Thought Art]

@LordFall I am not arguing there was a lot of conflict in that area or regarding the religion. I am not even saying it made less war. That checks out with spiral dynamics. I’m focused on the heart of the religion. Not just the people in it and what they did or didn’t do. 
 

When Gandhi died in the power vacuum he created in India lead to a civil war which killed over 2 million people. His act of non-violence lead to a war. 

 

Human affairs can be really messy. 

I am interest is more on the heart of the teachings of Islam, what what took place for it to take hold over so many. 
 

I know I made it out to seem like Mohammad was perfect, but that’s not what I’m saying. Mohammad create Islam. It’s a powerful school of understanding. His actions allowed it to grow and survive. Within Islam is a deep love and profound wisdom. Essentially value of the higher self are central to the teachings of Islam. These are universal values at its heart. 
 

There was nothing about it that said all war would stop. That wasn’t going to happen because of how humans are at that level of cognitive, value and ego development. Plus, the survival pressures are so high for all those people. This is why it is profound to create an Islam that can survive. 
 

It’s hard for me to explain this. I’m not excusing any wrong doing. But, I also recognize the way of life of an age when something is created. If Islam was created this way today it would be unacceptable to me. I am by no means done contemplating various perspectives. 

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[Oppositionless]

U could say the same about Buddhism , but with Buddhism you'll at least have a practice that could lead to some enlightenment experiences. I attend in person Buddhist things, Leo was right that most of them don't understand God, but it's okay bc I go for emotional regulation and community. Zen is a little better than Theravada , many theravadans are materialists, zen at least has an idea of God called the one mind but they say it can't be understood, maybe with meditation it can't .

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[Thought Art]

There is a cultivation of the heart in Islam. I’m not saying be a Muslim. But, I suggest you could be a treasure seeker to all the worlds knowledge. 
 

Have you felt the ecstatic heart of Islam?

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[Davino]

@Thought Art In every religion go to the mystics and you shall find the song leading you to God. Although, beware, for many have been lost in the path, for Gold is not everything that shines and many claim the treasure for themselves.

[Thought Art]

@Davino For its for spiritual nourishment and deepening my connection to God. The heart knows when it’s nourished. 

[LordFall]

@zazen I think you're being a bit biased and using the good sides to takeaway from the damage and harm it's caused.