Islam vs actualized.org

[Joseph Maynor]

I find it really stupid to fight with people over politics or religion.  It is a barrier to Relation.  

[kavaris]

Religion is like the istemi to, the unspeakable/unrevealed (ἀπόρρητον / μυστήριον), the aletheia or truth, the backwards / cringe reality that no one is accepting — in the form of its \*constantly unfolding nature — in the outwardly religious frames of mind; And that we should otherwise hope to conceive of or share. Like for instance, if someone named Leo Shura made a website called Factualized, and everything was exactly the same but w/ slight shades of difference, such that there would be a slight reframing (respoken from a different persons perspective) such that, thered be no way you could have all of the videos and everything, exactly the same/identical, it would be a testament to how no one can even physically make something that follows one unified following or belief, per the way religious folk are trying to portray, cause its just not the truth of reality. People take similar roads on the happenstance religious belief or following—under the assumption that they are doing it in the likeness of something they heard or saw, even though its from a place of entirely separate circumstance, and as such, its a revealing of the unrevealed truth that doesnt fit the way you may think, when expressed from the idealized muslim, christian or religious frameworks. Its like, the generic misunderstanding that continues to be clumsily misunderstood and revealed~giving away someones mis-aligned solutions to that under-appreciated truth. Like its the impossible brought into the real — it is Not gonna accomplish what yous think.., and itll be a really bad solution towards an underlying truth that does exist, if it is to ever find itself forced into the world from that extremely contrived point of the religious standards.

Edited 6 hours ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

"What you should start considering to understand or otherwise investigate in yourself / exp., which could include things that'll look or feel like truth, to you" is alot different than "These are the fabricated words and events and testimonies, of far too many homies to name in one sentence", towards an agreed-upon-truth thats never explicitly described... Like, if the point of it was to find god, then it was overexplained... if the point was to find / establish a religion, they accomplished that in that 200-300 AD range... If the point of it was to establish the special nature of the self, they missed the mark. And, if the point was to say something about the mysteries of life and internal religion, then their attempts to make gnostic religion suppressed, towards the canonical works made into gospel, was a mistake, and i dont think Islam takes gnosticism to any functional level that would be making it abundantly clear, like its still "Im a prophet, but beware of false prophets"

Like, dont you love it when the prophet himself is explaining that to you? Like... The fk is that?!

Edited 5 hours ago by kavaris

[Thought Art]

@kavaris Mohammad explicitly described and explained God. He said it is infinity. One God. I don’t think you have a deep grasp of Islam, the different types of study, practice or mystics. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Thought Art

[Someone here]

A note on Islam: it is arguably the religion that speaks most extensively and rigorously about the oneness and attributes of God .His omnipotence, omniscience, benevolence, and so on. it contains what I consider to be one of the closest descriptions of God to the way Leo explained Him (it)

That said, as a belief system and a source of moral and social rules, I think many aspects of Islam are outdated and cannot be straightforwardly applied to the modern world.

 

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura Islam has parables, stories, teachers, poems of which speak directly to the heart. 
 

Actualized is powerful, and its these teachings which assist in my relationship to the body of Islam. This is an important note. 
 

There is deep intelligence in actualized. But, there is not the same heart. Heart is something actualized does have. But, it’s not felt like I feel in works of Islam. Please be respectful, not for me, but to see that which I share with you as a nurturing perspective. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Thought Art