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Then why did you say before that muslims can't be truly happy in the other thread? Not trying to find a contradiction in what you say, but I just wonder what you think. Or maybe you can explain the difference between a "deluded" happiness and happiness. Most people don't have a philosopher/seeker mind, so why would they bother if they can be happy anyway?

i've seen often how extremely complicated a divorce becomes because of marriage rules. it can drag on for years with a lot of losses to everyone involved. Is it truly a scam though and what is the purpose of this scam?

haha glad someone caught it

If for example an Islamic top athlete finds his peace in his faith, and joy in his sport and family. Don't you consider this as happy? Probably more happy than many people on this forum. And with a bit of a 'surrender' mindset they may have some spiritual depth as well, along with decent (non hypocritical) morals. Then live a happy content life, then they die and become infinity. So no problem. I am giving a very rare example, but I'm just wondering why you would consider consciousness work as the only way to be truly happy.

Is it the same as loving mayonnaise?

Why would muslims or christian or atheists they not be happy? Many of them seem happy. and that without doing any epistemology, meditation, consciousness work, philosophy, etc. Of coursem many of them are miserable and defensive as well. But people who are into philosophy/consciousness stuff can be just as miserable.

If it's about survival, then why : Deal Breaker qualities: 1-Confidence 2-Humor 3-Detachment 4-Edginess/Adventurness 5-Intimate Dirty Sex Likeable Qualities: 1-Good looks 2-Financial Security/provider role 3-Social Status 4-Loyalty. < is this not much more about survival?

I think Leo is just jealous of his beard and hat

Some quotes on https://oshofriends.com/god "THIS experience is God." < This is literally what you said as well in some of your videos. "God is a pure isness, pure existence, and there is nowhere for God to go or come." Yes, he often prefers to use the word Godliness instead of God. But does that matter? You also call it infinite, eternal, Love and Consciousness. And Osho uses those exact words as well. ________________________________________________ You also said: "Why is Osho speaking about God as something outside of Reality/Existence?" He only does this when he talks about the 'bearded man version' -> "God is absolutely absurd -- nobody can manage existence from the outside". Because as you can see on the quote above, he equals God with pure existence already. ________________________________________________ I just think that you and Osho have always talked about the same thing, and so have many other forum members. That's why this discussion has continued longer than necessary.

He has has often said there is a God in his videos and books. He has also said there is no God in different videos and books. It is the context that change the meaning of it all. I think you know yourself pretty well what he means each time. Since when did you become so attached to 3 stupid letters made up by humans, that you are trying to disqualify a teacher that has extremely much overlap with your teachings?

He doesn't wear pants for a reason. He knows what you're talking about. You both are on the same page.

Come on dude, you are all about understanding context and making clear detailed distinctions. - For example, here is a talk in "Being Loose and Natural" of him saying this: "The word brahmacharya means that you have come to attain, you have come to know that you are the brahman, the ultimate, the divine – God himself you are. When one starts feeling this that one is God himself...." - Or another example, read some of his sayings about God here: https://oshofriends.com/god You yourself reject the strawman version of God in your episode: What Is God? - Part 1 "....God exists certainly I'm not meaning that there is a bearded man in the clouds sitting down looking upon you and judging you and throwing you into hell that's not what" So of course, he as well needs to make clear what he means with God and what he does not mean with it. ____________________________________________________________

From that perspective you could conclude that meditations and a 'surrendered' lifestyle, while still striving for your goals and taking responsibilities in life, is more worth your efforts than most of the visualization and assumption techniques. “The world is a mirror reflecting your deepest assumptions” then mean, the assumptions of awareness. There is also big YouTube Channel in this niche, called "Joseph Rodriques". He also evolved his teachings from visualization and thought techniques towards reaching the pure still awareness over a time course of 10 years. Many people in this domain have gotten acquainted with both awareness/consciousness and visualizations, and I believe it's good to know the distinctions well.

That's a good pointed out and clear distinction, that I was exactly curious about. And perhaps an enlightenment experience makes you realize there is a transcended imagination at play, even above the ego-imagination. Awareness even imagines an ego-mind imagining things.

So would you say there is any mystical reality at all with assumptions and imagination? Or does your positive thinking and assumptions simply rewire your brain to be more effective within the physical to achieve goals.