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how much does IQ matter

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I swear yall overestimate the difficulty of math. Sure rocket science might not be the best example, but you dont have to be a genius to do introduction level calculus.

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@Sandroew Math is not that hard especially Calculus. People get lost in the crazy long equations which makes it seem more nebulous than it is conceptually.

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Hard to say because I don't have much experience with IQ tests.

I know a person can develop intelligence, which is different from increasing IQ.

So a person can develop "intelligence" -- wisdom and knowledge -- but IQ is fixed. Is this an accurate explanation of your position?

Do you think that G is the same thing as the raw capacity to understand reality, meaning someone's spiritual abilities are capped by it?

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Less than ever with AI being able to do the heavy lifting for us though. Still helps in deconstructing complex topics though but before there were many jobs that low IQ people couldn't do for complexity based reasons.


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IQ is a few variables in a much larger picture. You have to look at configurations. 

  • Raw processing variables (what IQ primarily captures)
    • Working memory capacity
    • Processing speed
    • Fluid reasoning / abstraction capacity
  • Drive and orientation variables (what points the processing power)
    • Need for cognition
    • Systemizing drive
    • Metacognitive access
    • Epistemic drive
  • Retrieval and processing style
    • Linear vs. associative retrieval
    • Convergent vs. divergent processing
    • Receptive vs. acquisitive integration
  • Epistemic and emotional variables
    • Need for closure / comfort with ambiguity
    • Openness to revision
    • Intellectual honesty / epistemic humility
    • Emotional integration
    • Frustration tolerance
  • Structural and contextual variables
    • Crystallized knowledge base
    • Domain breadth vs. depth
    • Self-regulatory capacity
    • Sensitivity to salience
    • Social and environmental context

Ben Shapiro has a high IQ, but it usually doesn't convert to intelligence for various reasons. "What is perception oriented toward in the first place?" determines a lot about how intelligence shows up and the particular shape of it.

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Edited by Joshe

What if this is just fascination + identity + seriousness being inflated into universal importance?

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