Let’s Take Looksmaxxing Seriously

[integral]

@Husseinisdoingfine loool basicly the ESTP, and they're very successful at business.

Action over planning.

Edited 9 hours ago by integral

[Jacob Morres]

I like how body positivity was ultra viral 5-6 years ago and now we have looksmaxxing. How the pendulum has shifted

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[Schizophonia]

6 hours ago, AION said:

he fucked up with his nose job flying to close to the sun.

Yea he looked more natural 

[AtmanIsBrahman]

18 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

You say beauty is objective - is this absolute?

It's objective in exactly the way I said it is. Of course, everything is Absolute Beauty in a sense, but this is not what we're talking about. You have to separate uses of terms for different contexts. 

 

18 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

So what do the numbers mean? How was it decided one number means a certain level of attractiveness?  What studies were done to come to that conclusion that one number means more regarding beauty than another? 

All evidence I find tells me looksmaxxing is more than these geometric principles - there are other elements to it. Does looksmaxxing exclude skincare, hair care, clothing selection, body composition? These have existed for a long, long time. If they are part of looksmaxxing, this is nothing new.

There is actual science behind this and I already gave you an introduction which you can research further if you so desire. If you want to be closeminded, go ahead. You are approaching this from a perspective of "I am the more conscious/intelligent one; it is on my opponent to provide the evidence or else I was right."

Hope this doesn't trickle over into spirituality lol. 

[AtmanIsBrahman]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The absurdity of this is that Clav has exceptional genetics. You will never look as good as he naturally looks with him doing zero lookmaxxing.

His looksmaxxing is NOT what makes him look good.

Clav is actually a complicated case because he did a huge variety of looksmaxxing procedures throughout puberty (all of which is documented on looksmax.org) and definitely changed his appearance as a result. For example, he injected testosterone from age 14, which changes facial structure to make it more masculine. This only works during puberty.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Clav would have looked above average regardless. But the hypothesis that he didn't significantly improve his looks is very unlikely.

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Clav is lucky to have great genetics and his looksmaxxing is just performative online antics for purposes of clickbait

I don't think it's purely performative. He genuinely believes in the whole looksmaxxing ideology.


How would you rate the percentage of looks vs game roughly? And if it turns out you actually can improve your looks significantly, wouldn't it be worth doing? @Leo Gura

Edited 7 hours ago by AtmanIsBrahman

[LordFall]

@AtmanIsBrahman Club promoters sleep with way more women than looksmaxxers ever will. It's because they got a setup that's working for them. They have access to a valuable environment in which they have status and rare sources(they get a booth and free bottles worth thousands per night in a nightlife based city) and they practice their social skills each week.

You call that either logistics or social circle and it will trump looks each time. It's not either or though you should get everything you can working in your favour but it's not worth overobsessing your appearance bro. Start working out 3-4 times weekly if you aren't right now, start to build a circle in your city that goes out with you and works on business, throw events like parties, photoshoots and music events and your life will scale exponentially. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AtmanIsBrahman is beauty objective and never subjective?

[Leo Gura]

28 minutes ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

I don't think it's purely performative. He genuinely believes in the whole looksmaxxing ideology.

I don't doubt he believes his own BS.

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How would you rate the percentage of looks vs game roughly?

That's hard to quantify. I don't have a number for you.

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And if it turns out you actually can improve your looks significantly, wouldn't it be worth doing?

Depends on the costs.

Minor stuff is worth it like hair transplant.

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[AtmanIsBrahman]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Depends on the costs.

Minor stuff is worth it like hair transplant

And many more things too. A rhinoplasty is quite safe and effective, provided you know what you’re doing and it actually improves your face. A genioplasty is also perfectly reasonable for a recessed chin. Wearing contacts instead of glasses improves looks in the vast majority of cases—and colored contacts can improve coloring. Going to the gym and keeping a low body fat drastically improves your physical appeal. I could go on.

I think if you’re in the dating/pickup scene seriously, you should be doing some looksmaxxes.

[bazera]

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Minor stuff is worth it like hair transplant.

I've heared that finasteride (drug that keeps your hair on after transplant) messes up with erections and libido in general, but in small percentage of population I guess. A lot of guys take it though.

[Leo Gura]

Nosejob is only worth it if you have an especially big or problematic nose. Not a regular nose.

Girls don't care about this as much as fools like Clav think.

You will get way more results from learning game than looksmaxxing. Pickup is way healtheir than looksmaxxing. Even caring about your looks is already terrible inner game.

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[Husseinisdoingfine]

Every year, we're told to care about a new freak.

 

[Terell Kirby]

17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Pickup is way healtheir than looksmaxxing.

10x healthier; not to mention developing social skills from pickup can potentially earn you millions.

Lots of good looking people who are broke

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[AtmanIsBrahman]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You will get way more results from learning game than looksmaxxing. Pickup is way healtheir than looksmaxxing. Even caring about your looks is already terrible inner game.

You can always do both. 
 

Aside from that, are you aware of the halo effect? People treat you better if you look better, even in non-romantic settings. This alone is a reason to investigate looksmaxxing.

I’m actually most interested in this from a pure philosophy perspective. How is it that looks are so important, yet society has a taboo on talking about them? Somehow we don’t want to face the underlying forces affecting interactions; we just want to act unconsciously. How is it that people rate themselves a 7 on average? That’s an amazing lesson in self-bias right there!

I think much of the mainstream reaction against looksmaxxing is because it’s so outside of our paradigm of how attraction works that it shatters our worldview and we feel like we have to reject it. “What, you think looks matter more than personality? You’re such an awful person.” This is how collective ego protects itself. The looks/blackpill thing is a fascinating aspect of our survival as humans. I see it as a hard truth that you learn anyway, because you love truth. 

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[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

How is it that looks are so important, yet society has a taboo on talking about them?

That's easy to answer:

Telling people they are too ugly to get laid is very hurtful and depressing.

No one wants to hear that they won't get laid because they are too ugly.

So this topic cannot be talked about seriously in public. Similar to God.

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[Basman]

I remember going out once and this girl with a hunchback was aggressively approaching guys, like going up and hugging their arm and shit, and they would just ignoring her awkwardly. They would freeze like in Jurassic Park. Brutal stuff. You have to feel sorry for someone like that. 

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

It's a nice little lubricated hole for marketing, products and sales to be sold to you... 

Exactly the same way it's worked, tried and true, for women and cosmetic/anti-aging serum industries. Same model, rebranded. Some insecurities shoved down your throat. A while new generation of consumers bodies prepped for the pitch. Widening the market.

Only this time, there is no stopping. No balance. "Max" 

Gotta watch that sales and marketing cock coming at you 😎

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru