I feel like marketing is for rats & subhuman

[AerisVahnEphelia]

In my bones, it feels like snake oils, and only low IQ rat vermins are attracted to it.

I almost put the feeling I feel when people talk to me about marketing as if someone told me he liked to rap little kids.

why is this the case ?

I've my own answers, I just wonder about your thought.

 

[LordFall]

It seems like you're an artist and you make some cool stuff on X — I can understand the frustration of feeling under-appreciated for your efforts. Some of that disgust toward marketing might actually be sour grapes though: resentment toward people who are getting recognized because they figured out how to communicate their value effectively.

Marketing is mostly effective communication at scale. You can do it honestly or dishonestly like anything else as well as learn it and get better at it like anything else. There is some art to marketing but a lot of it is brute force and utilizing bias in human psychology to make people interested in what you have to offer. It can be a bit low brow for sure but the alternative is few people noticing or caring about what you produce so it's a bit of a necessary evil. 

Edited 3 hours ago by LordFall

[Leo Gura]

That's because it is!

By rats for rats

It's just mechanical survival. It's good if you just want to survive.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Ulax]

Yes marketing is often fucked up.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

There's 100% a kind of marketing, tailored to you specifically and personally, that would surely convince you to buy any shitty product lmao so you shouldn't act holier than thou, perhaps. If marketing department was a given a goal to target specifically only you, AerisVahnEphelia, they'd sell you that cheese

[VioleGrace]

3 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

as if someone told me he liked to rap little kids
 

What is wrong with raping ?

[AerisVahnEphelia]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

It seems like you're an artist and you make some cool stuff on X — I can understand the frustration of feeling under-appreciated for your efforts. Some of that disgust toward marketing might actually be sour grapes though: resentment toward people who are getting recognized because they figured out how to communicate their value effectively.

Marketing is mostly effective communication at scale. You can do it honestly or dishonestly like anything else as well as learn it and get better at it like anything else. There is some art to marketing but a lot of it is brute force and utilizing bias in human psychology to make people interested in what you have to offer. It can be a bit low brow for sure but the alternative is few people noticing or caring about what you produce so it's a bit of a necessary evil. 

I’m honestly fine if I’m the only one who enjoys my art. I usually do it for my own joy (narc+selfish combo). ((But yes some tokens for survival from it would be welcomed))

I already feel like I’ve had enough recognition to sleep very happily with what I do, and I don’t judge "my value" based on my “art.”

It’s not me being mad or having remorse. It’s the same feeling you get when you see someone throw plastic in a forest: it’s me seeing something disgusting and mentioning it.

The fact that so many people already like my stuff is enough for me. I even have a song with 1 million plays on YouTube. Even if it was a collab, I fully participated and was in the house with my friend while we built it. I gave him the full rights because, honestly, it was fun, and starting a name with him felt like a hassle. I gave him full rights, and I don’t think my friend even really made much with it. Honestly, I don’t care.

As the most part of the idea was thought up by me, I feel like I know what I’m doing has a certain degree of mastery in my taste.

Of course, I’d like to live from my “art” more.

But marketing people stink. That was just a simple observation, of course I m not delusional about it and  the state of the nature of our society.

 

[Basman]

We live in an attention economy. Marketing is just how you communicate value to people. Without it you get nowhere. Marketing doesn't have to be cringe.

Edited 1 hour ago by Basman

[AerisVahnEphelia]

21 minutes ago, VioleGrace said:

What is wrong with raping ?

You'll know when someone you love or yourself get raped.
Of course relativism is fun to play with, notice you're still "human" or whatever.

 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

Just now, Basman said:

We live in an attention economy. Marketing is just how you communicate value to people. Without it you get nowhere.

Maybe I m marketing myself as anti marketing.
I m meta powerful in bullshit too.

Does it sounds paradoxical ? 

Why can't I hate something I do ?