I broke up

[Sugarcoat]

3 hours ago, Hojo said:

People dont choose to smoke there is no doer. Gods doing everything.

But you can say that about people quitting smoking too, so its not an excuse

[Sugarcoat]

3 hours ago, Hojo said:

Cause this will cause him to do devilry, to fight with himself over something he dosent want to do. Its like if your mother shames you over porn you just do it more.

Now you contradicting yourself, first you said gods doing it all, now you claim the woman is affecting him and making him do it. 

Are you even clear internally about what you believe 

[Hojo]

@Sugarcoat God is doing everything in reality.You are outside of reality looking into reality. She is saying something happening in reality isnt right. He is then outside of reality saying everything in reality isnt right. This is making him do it more because thats how the brain works.

If she praised God she would say I love everything in reality. Then he would go what im doing is not bad and I am more preacful. Every time the wife nags the husband that something he is doing is wrong is making the man stuck more.

Its not a contradiction its reality.

Everytime you say something is bad you are creating a thoughtform that is reinforced.

This thoughtform wants to stay alive.

I am clear you are not informed is all.

Edited 11 hours ago by Hojo

[Hojo]

@Sugarcoat

26 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

But you can say that about people quitting smoking too, so its not an excuse

The person isnt quitting smoking. You telling them to quit is making them stuck. When the person quits they are a quitting person in reality. When they are smoking they are a smoking person in reality.

When they stop they are done they quit.

The person who is smoking is not, not smoking.

The person wants to smoke so they smoke.

You are telling a person in reality to quit their action. Thats not truth. 

When they quit its God quitting when they smoke its God smoking.

Your argument is imposing free will on a play that was already written.

Thats decoherance from truth. Which is what is happening.

You are comparing someone else with a different person. You cant make that comparison.

If someone quits that means the addiction fell away.

If someone is compelled to smoke they should just do it. Arguing with reality creates another problem.

There is high intelligence working through every being.

 

If they quit too soon they are leashed to it the rest of their life. They count the days. They count the minutes. They count the seconds.

And if they dont let it go they are also leashed to it. So there is no point in arguing with reality. Its something that is happening and to say its bad is to argue with infinite intelligence.

When you tell the person they are being bad by doing it you make it worse and this is a judgement.

This makes your 'concern' for the person extremely selfish.

There is no excuse for your judgment.

Edited 11 hours ago by Hojo

[Schizophonia]

You do what you want 

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@Sugarcoat God is doing everything in reality.You are outside of reality looking into reality. She is saying something happening in reality isnt right. He is then outside of reality saying everything in reality isnt right. This is making him do it more because thats how the brain works.

If she praised God she would say I love everything in reality. Then he would go what im doing is not bad and I am more preacful. Every time the wife nags the husband that something he is doing is wrong is making the man stuck more.

Its not a contradiction its reality.

Everytime you say something is bad you are creating a thoughtform that is reinforced.

This thoughtform wants to stay alive.

I am clear you are not informed is all.

I don't think you understand much about spirituality. You're like a dude that opened up a fortune cookie and ran with it. Your actions are how you interact with reality. Just like you're choosing to write dumb shit and I'm choosing to call you out on it. The judgement is whether it aligns with your goals or not. OP did not want to have people with unhealthy habits in her life. Some people do and they would consider smoking good or smoking crack good. If you want to die early and not build anything meaningful in your life beyond fleeting dopamine then you might call that good as well. To call this wise is very low level cognition IMO. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

This is a hard thing to face.

Many people do not want to admit - sometimes love just isn't enough.

People who suffer from addiction have a disease - an affliction. They are bound in service to the addiction. This can get right in the way of loving another person. In addition, remaining in situations like this can hurt immensely. To see a loved one suffer, and to feel that pain with them, can break your heart just as much as breaking up can. 

It really comes down to; can you endure this with them? Because you will have to be in it with the afflicted person. You will have to partially take on a caretaking role. The whole issue becomes complicated because they also have to want to quit. They have to want a better life. Nothing you can do will change that. If you stay with them, and they do not want to quit, this could end up with profound resentment. It will fracture and destroy your love. Usually people who suffer from addiction aren't always able to hold space to have empathy for what they put you through. This is purely a function of how deeply they are in distress.

There is nothing wrong with admitting love just sometimes... isn't enough  

[integral]

It was a good decision, There are certain standards that you should hold yourself to when picking up partner and you should think of them as partners and not someone that's going to give you love. These are very different things

A partnership is when two people support each other to build a life together, that involves much more than just receiving love and feeling loved.

If you seek the emotion of love blindly you're not going to get the love you truly want

Edited 9 hours ago by integral

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 minutes ago, integral said:

If you seek love blindly you're not going to get the love you truly want

Very true. I think you risk betraying yourself and your needs in the process. You give yourself up in service to love or for another. Self needs are abandoned. 

In an air emergency, we put on our own oxygen mask before we help anyone else.

Or

Don't set yourself on fire to keep another warm.

Edited 9 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Asia P]

6 hours ago, integral said:

If you seek the emotion of love blindly you're not going to get the love you truly want

That’s real