Is it wrong to make-out or hookup with a girl when shes drunk and your sober?

[UpperMaster]

I made out with a girl recently, she was drunk, I was sober. Met her through social circle. Her friends set me and her up. Her sister is super against me, main reason because I was sober and she was drunk, apparently thats like taking advantage or something. 

I had no idea this would be an issue, obviously my intentions were not to take advantage of her, I actually care about this girl. 

All my friends have slightly different things to say about this.

 

Is it bad to get with a girl when she's drunk and your sober? When is it exploitative?

 

 

 

[Valach]

Everyone has different morals, what do you think about it? It also depends what do you mean by drunk. I would not have an issue with w a woman who had 1-2 drinks to ease nervousness and anxiety. I wouldn't go for someone who is clearly drunk.

[UpperMaster]

@Valach yea bro this is so tricky I had no idea there was morals attached to it so I was js like yooo this girl wants to make out with me lets go. 

I mean doesn't Leo go do pick up sober in nightclubs, usually the girl has had drinks right? Im super interested on when he would go for it and when he would not.

[Leo Gura]

How drunk?

If mildly drunk it's not problem at all.

If heavily drunk, just ask her, "You sure you want this?" while in bed.

If she is so drunk she can hardly walk, then I just don't deal with girls like that.

You should also ask every girl how many drinks she's had. They will lie, but still, good to ask.

Edited March 18 by Leo Gura

[UpperMaster]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

How drunk?

If mildly drunk it's not problem at all.

If heavily drunk, just ask her, "You sure you want this?" while in bed.

If she is so drunk she can hardly walk, then I just don't deal with girls like that.

You should also ask every girl how many drinks she's had. They will lie, but still, good to ask.

If I were to scale drunk levell she'd be a 7, like she definitely wasn't like falling on the floor or anything. She was pretty drunk and in super horny mood.

Also, I didn't sleep with her or anything, I just made out with her. Like wouldn't sleep with her, but I thought making out was competley fine, especially because it was appropriated by our friend-group. 

Then the next day, she brings up how that may have been weird, I I lowkey feel like Im being accused of doing smth wrong, it feels shitty. 

Like I didn't have any bad intentions so it felt weird defending myself.

 

Also how many drinks would be too many drinks?

 

 

 

 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, UpperMaster said:

She was pretty drunk and in super horny mood.

Girls do this all the time. It's their problem, not yours.

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 Im being accused of doing smth wrong, it feels shitty.

Girls don't take responsibility for being slutty. So don't worry about it. Don't take their bullshit seriously.

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Also how many drinks would be too many drinks?

Impossible to say. But 1-2 is great. 3-4 is not ideal but acceptable. 5+ is bad.

A lot depends on how much time has passed.

Edited March 18 by Leo Gura

[Shermaningeorgia]

This is rape. Come on. Don’t do this. 
 

she cannot consent 

[Jannes]

2 hours ago, Shermaningeorgia said:

This is rape. Come on. Don’t do this. 
 

she cannot consent 

Rape is a really strong word, too strong in this context. 

[Valach]

3 hours ago, UpperMaster said:

@Valach yea bro this is so tricky I had no idea there was morals attached to it so I was js like yooo this girl wants to make out with me lets go. 

I mean doesn't Leo go do pick up sober in nightclubs, usually the girl has had drinks right? Im super interested on when he would go for it and when he would not.

Go ahead and define your own morals. I don't really pickup girls in the clubs so can't say myself. On dates I don't mind having drink or two with a woman, but I would never try to get her drunk in order to sleep with her.

[UpperMaster]

Thank you very much for your perspective on this matter guys. 

[Ramasta9]

On 3/18/2026 at 8:28 PM, Leo Gura said:

Girls do this all the time. It's their problem, not yours.

Girls don't take responsibility for being slutty. So don't worry about it. Don't take their bullshit seriously.

Impossible to say. But 1-2 is great. 3-4 is not ideal but acceptable. 5+ is bad.

A lot depends on how much time has passed.

She could even be lowkey mad that he didn't sleep with her and putting the act the next day  I've met quite a few of those in my days.

 

[trenton]

@UpperMaster 

I have some questions. This girl you made out with, how does she feel about the interaction? Does she regret the interaction or do think she would have acted differently if not mildly drunk? The lack of clarity is what draws a lot of negative attention to these situations, especially when one person is drunk and the other sober, creating a power imbalance.

Secondly, did she initiate any sexual interaction with you? Did she enthusiastically participate? These are considered for legal reasons, but the issue gets tricky if someone was mildly drunk but not to the point that it would completely impair judgment.

Moving forward, I want you to know that there are legal risks with having sexual interactions of any kind with a drunk woman. It is better to wait if this kind of situation creates any ambiguity, potentially triggering serious accusations. This can include people accusing you of rape in some cases such as another forum member is doing right now. The mixed opinions are part of the ambiguity these situations can create, so be careful.

[LordFall]

I recommend everyone do some daygame and nightgame completely sober. Seducing a woman while intoxicated is different than sober. A lot of times when you're drunk even if she does consent it's just two people living a temporary moment of escapism and not really finding meaning. I remember one of the coolest one night stands I ever had in some Toronto promoter's penthouse he let me fuck a girl in his bed and there was the whole city watching and then we went back to sleep at my place and I had such a headache and my vape tasted burnt and it was awkward the next day and I never talked to that girl again even though we had a great time the night before. It's fun to do once in a while but I'm an INTP and value emotional connection so using myself and women just for sex even if she does enjoy it definitely feels empty. 

[Atb210201]

Yes it is wrong for sure.

Edited October 24 by Atb210201

[pablo_aka_god]

If she got drunk because she decided to get drunk. ie: you didn't manipulate her to get drunk.

and she really wanted to hookup, ie: you did not push her or manipulate it then it's totally moral IMO.

People and young women specially have this issue were they don't want to be held accountable for their actions. They decided to get drunk and in that state they decided to have sex with a guy, assuming they guy didn't push her too much, these were all her decisions.

Also at night young women(and men) get drunk on purpose so they can do things that they want but don't have the guts to do when sober.

If she got drunk and robbed a bank, should we let her free because she was drunk?

Edited October 26 by pablo_aka_god

[Olaf]

@UpperMaster make out, meh, but I would never sleep with a really drunk girl, that is against my morality. I had 2 times the chance to sleep with a drunk girl this month, who were into me, but I didn't do it, because it is a no go for me.

Edited Monday at 11:37 PM by Olaf

[Emotionalmosquito]

If anything, being intoxicated just puts her more on my level. As a complete low iq dumbass myself, I feel I’d be perfectly justified in hooking up with a drunk woman. Considering the alternative is being greatly outsmarted by her sober brain to the point that it’s not even close to fair.