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19 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Wait you don't think they would seek to wipe out Israel?

How could they do that? With a nuclear bomb? That would mean the immediate response of Israel and the total destruction of irán. 

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58 minutes ago, Stick said:

Nukes are overhyped in my opinion. 
Lets say that Iran really doesnt like the US.
So it developes nukes with the upmost effort.
They can at max make 12-20 nuclear warheads.
They bomb the fuck out of israel with 7-8 nukes and send the rest to America.
Whats that gonna do? People in israel mostly die, land becomes inhabitable, no israel, no palestein.
Also americans get really mad and nuke iran 100x harder.
Every participating country is going to suffer, and the rest of the world is still gonna live although there might be a energy shortage.

That's not gonna happen, Iran wouldn't be the one sending nukes or escalating anything first. The escalation history between the Iran and the West is clear, and it clearly makes the West look like the villain, not Iran. North Korea also never sent any of it's nukes, despite Americans making a cringy action movie of how a North Korean invasion may look like. Despite all this analysis, US is still the only country who actually used nukes in combat, isn't that interesting.

I would say Israel is the one who needs to chill the fuck out the most. There needs to be a pressure from the entire world to make Israel stop and maybe even change it's goverment, then make a ceasefire with Iran. There must peace!

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1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

How could they do that? With a nuclear bomb? That would mean the immediate response of Israel and the total destruction of irán. 

Not if their government is taken out.  But it would be by the US.  The US had to flex their muscles a bit.  What I'm actually afraid of is if the left get back in power we will go back to being weak again and let everyone else bully us.


 

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2 hours ago, Stick said:

Nukes are overhyped in my opinion. 
Lets say that Iran really doesnt like the US.
So it developes nukes with the upmost effort.
They can at max make 12-20 nuclear warheads.
They bomb the fuck out of israel with 7-8 nukes and send the rest to America.
Whats that gonna do? People in israel mostly die, land becomes inhabitable, no israel, no palestein.
Also americans get really mad and nuke iran 100x harder.
Every participating country is going to suffer, and the rest of the world is still gonna live although there might be a energy shortage.

Nukes are there for deterrence, in a nuclear war everyone looses. Even if the US and Israel could nuke Iran harder, even getting nuked "a bit" is catastrophic. 

So if Iran had nukes, Israel and the US wouldnt have dared to attack Iran in the first place. Its in the absolute best interest of iran to get nukes. 

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14 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

What I'm actually afraid of is if the left get back in power we will go back to being weak again and let everyone else bully us.

Bruh, the us IS the bully

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32 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Not if their government is taken out.  But it would be by the US.  The US had to flex their muscles a bit.  What I'm actually afraid of is if the left get back in power we will go back to being weak again and let everyone else bully us.

The right wing came to power with the hopes of many that it would bring sanity, stability, and projection for the future, but it has turned out to be a circus of clowns with severe mental illnesses, putting on a spectacle of shame, ridicule, incoherence, and stupidity never before seen in the history of humankind, not to mention corruption on an unbelievable scale. It's lamentable, but it's the way it is, and should be accepted for the republicans with a minimum of integrity 

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This video features a discussion with Douglas Macgregor regarding the current escalation between the United States and Iran. Macgregor argues that the conflict is driven by an 'Israel-first' agenda and that the U.S. administration is misled by advisors who believe air power alone can secure a decisive victory (21:37, 24:33).

According to Douglas Macgregor, the rest of the Islamic world and much of the global community increasingly view Israel as a "menace" or "virus" that threatens their survival. This opposition stems from several factors:

Expansionist Concerns: Macgregor points to the map of "Greater Israel," which allegedly includes significant portions of neighboring nations such as Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon. He argues that this geopolitical vision is viewed as an existential threat by populations in the region. (6:42 - 7:42)

Alienation: Macgregor claims that Israel is increasingly perceived as a "foreign" or "alien" entity within the region. He suggests that any previous opportunities for accommodation have vanished, exacerbated by rhetoric from figures like Ben-Gvir and Netanyahu. (26:53 - 27:46)

Global Sentiment: Macgregor asserts that the entire region, and indeed most of the world, is turning decisively against both the U.S. and Israel, partly because the U.S. is perceived as trying to solve Israel's strategic problems through military force, which he argues is ineffective and damaging to international stability. (16:48 - 17:05)

 


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3 hours ago, Jannes said:

Bruh, the us IS the bully

Haven't you realized its a dog eat dog world.  And if Kamala Harris became or becomes President we would be back to the dog being eaten......

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1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Haven't you realized its a dog eat dog world.  And if Kamala Harris became or becomes President we would be back to the dog being eaten......

Wars are extremely costly and have negative side effects like terrorism and mass immagration waves. So a little less bite would actually be beneficial for the us in a strictly selfish way. 

And the diplomatic nuclear deal with iran would have been orders of magnitude cheaper then bombing the shit out of iran over and over again. 

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3 hours ago, Jannes said:

Wars are extremely costly and have negative side effects like terrorism and mass immagration waves. So a little less bite would actually be beneficial for the us in a strictly selfish way. 

And the diplomatic nuclear deal with iran would have been orders of magnitude cheaper then bombing the shit out of iran over and over again. 

Yeah true.  Its a slippery slope.  Its not good to be too passive or too aggressive. 

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