Most men have no idea how low level they are

[theleelajoker]

13 minutes ago, LordFall said:

I enjoyed reading your perspective bro thanks for sharing, it's true I come at it from a north american dating perspective. Dating is super competitive in western big cities so you need to try hard. For the field reports I've read from SEA and south america it's a lot more chill to date attractive women there. If you date in Calgary, Vancouver, Toronto, New York, Miami, LA, Vegas, London or Paris you need some dang good game and status to constantly be around and pull top tier women otherwise you're gonna struggle for the scraps. 

The problem I find with going after women that don't like social media is you cut yourself off from culture. Social media is just culture at scale globally. I don't really like hanging out with hippie stage green type women, I feel like they just reject culture and think they're above it without having learned to navigate it. 

 

Same here, learning from your POV as well. Thing is, you do insta work, so I assume (lol hehe) that you enjoy that part of culture. So do your thing and only change your approach if you don't, at least that's my pov. 

I enjoy the counter-culture thing for now, is suits me. But you're right, there the danger of distancing myself too much from it. Happened for sure, it's like salting your food - a little bit is good, but too much and the meal is ruined 😄

 

 

[LordFall]

Totally you have to live the life that works for you. Achieving your dream dating life is what I advocate for, so much love is possible. 

[Joseph Maynor]

I think this is a good example of great conversation and it shows you don't have to be funny or even flirty to be attractive.  I'm sure the fact that Fabi is one of the best chess players in the world helps, but I like how he almost has the inverse of "game" mentality. This is not a romantic conversation, but it's amazing to me how mature it is without trying to be.  There's authenticity and humility, but without trying hard to appear that way.  You can be a nice guy without that being a bad thing.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 02:34 AM by Joseph Maynor

[LordFall]

Yes being authentic is one of cornerstones of game. I didn't watch it but I think chess players are definitely attractive. There are many female ones that have brands and they seem like cool people that are also smart. Definitely got a crush on Andrea Botez. 

[alphainvention]

isn't that just dunning Kruger in action?

[Lyubov]

I don’t have time to read all this but tbh it’s aimed more at the OP. The sense I get is that you’re trying to compensate for other areas of your life with cash in order to earn intimacy. While that can work to a certain degree you say you’re going to double down on work and generally speaking that is probably going to make you more autistic, un-relatable and unsociable. It may marginally open up some doors with women and if anything it could free up your time down the line which is a great thing. But also it’s sort of a “happiness is here now” situation where you could be getting the results you want potentially with women NOW if you really worked on your look and feasibly switched yourself over to being extroverted and genuinely enjoying socializing / social lifestyle. Your finances are not holding you back as much as you think unless you’re really pressed for time and have an unappealing lifestyle. 
 

Edited 4 hours ago by Lyubov

[LordFall]

I have plenty of dating experience with different women but ultimately to build the lifestyle that I have it requires some an elevated level of financial freedom so I don't mind not dating for a few years while I build the life I've been meaning to have.