Leo's DemystifySci Podcast Appearance

[Ninja_pig]

This podcast was such a pleasure to listen to. Leo was very good at explaining his points and the hosts were very open minded and eager to understand. 

[Joseph Maynor]

1 hour ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

you know you did psychedelic well the moment you tell yourself you might never do it again

This is so true.  Once is enough.

[Leo Gura]

38 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Once is enough.

Hell naw.

[Joseph Maynor]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Hell naw.

I wouldn't want to do 5Meo again because the trip I had was so beautiful and revealing.  I'm afraid It would only ruin the memory I have of it.

Edited 9 hours ago by Joseph Maynor

[Yimpa]

2 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

you know you did psychedelic well the moment you tell yourself you might never do it again

I am the psychedelic. 

Science should study me seriously.

[OBEler]

Leo, you speak perfectly. You give your best explanations. And still, they take it as a joke. Or even worse, they get triggered. You talk about survival and when it comes that you talk about truth etc which goes beyond survival they dont get it and switch to survival mode. Even though you explained it before. They cannot grasp that things exist outside of survival.

[Leo Gura]

46 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I'm afraid

Of course.

That's why it must be done.

[Hojo]

@OBElerIts cause he told them he shit all over his floor and put shit and blood on his walls. If you tell someone that with no explanation as to why or how it benefited you they will just see you as crazy.

Edited 10 hours ago by Hojo

[Lazarus93]

8 hours ago, Cubbage said:

@Leo Gura Please consider coming on my podcast: The Trip Sitters. 

I would love to have an open discussion of awakening/God/infinity and psychedelics with you and my audience would also be very enthusiastic for a talk between us since we both are deeply ingrained within the psychonautic online space. Discord members and Vivec followers in general are very serious about the very deepest levels of this work.

I am not the most academically minded person, but I can 100% facilitate a metaphysical and transrational discussion between us. Let me know mate.

Love your videos Vivec <3

[Leo Gura]

25 minutes ago, Hojo said:

how it benefited you

Hahaha

[Natasha Tori Maru]

You could argue shitting is almost always beneficial - waste material being purged from the body.

The blood. Harder case to argue there.

I dunno why they were even shocked by that. Or maybe I am desensitized to shit and blood. As if users haven't ever had shit/blood related accidents.

I suppose I have a lot of experience with babies also. Lots of shit involved there. Also my ex had explosive shit in bed one day.

[Yimpa]

2 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Also my ex had explosive shit in bed one day.

[Hojo]

@Natasha Tori MaruTo me when Leo says it it sounds like he did it intentionally. Maybe im misreading and hes talking like an alcoholic vomiting all over himself.

If your bf shit the bed on purpose you would be mad.

Some people will eat their own shit to awaken.

Edited 9 hours ago by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

5 minutes ago, Hojo said:

If your bf shit the bed on purpose you would be mad.

Not really, I would laugh and make him clean it up

Accidents are all good though. Shit happens (literally). 

6 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Natasha Tori MaruTo me when Leo says it it sounds like he did it intentionally. Maybe im misreading and hes talking like an alcoholic vomiting all over himself.

I am not sure - it sounded like maybe a mystical experience was so overwhelming he lost control of all faculties. I have seen that happen, so I assumed that was it. I've seen people doing weird shit because it felt correct in the moment while on psychs. Who knows!

[Joseph Maynor]

Trying to explain things so fast sometimes doesn't register.  It's like trying to explain a decade of experience in a 2 hour video.

[Terell Kirby]

 

41 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Not really, I would laugh and make him clean it up

Accidents are all good though. Shit happens (literally). 

Shit stain Awakening, now that's somethin'

Edited 8 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[Davino]

4 hours ago, Terell Kirby said:

Shit stain Awakening, 

The Oh Shit threshold awakening

[zurew]

17 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

And the way you go about adding infinity to God in the Infinity of Gods video contains a logical error: you have to assume there is something outside of God to add something outside of God. If God is everything that could possibly exist, you can't do that. That's more than just being imprecise or inconcise. That's just being logically incoherent. That is the true signal for when you're really just waffling about something which is not needed.

Its either a contradiction or an equivocation, but he doesnt care about this and never gave any fuck about this point. He labels this as getting lost in the details and not focusing on the big picture, when in reality, he just isn't doing the bare minimum to try to communicate in a coherent and trackable way.  But then he acts surprised or gets mad when you cant get his point or cant track what he is saying.

"Of course you dont get it, because you havent realized the things im talking about" - Us not understanding what he is pointing at is compatible with him contradicting himself or engaging in an equivocation. Again, just follow very basic communication norms.

[zurew]

17 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Increased acceptance for idealism/God in academia -> increased acceptance for idealism/God in society. It's not a very hard jump to make. That's why you are on the podcast after all.

The other big difference is that Kastrup is read up on the literature when it comes to philosophy  of mind and he has arguments targeting those positions not just normie positions.

The proposition set that Leo thinks all materialists and physicalists need to affirm just doesnt cut it, that only cuts it for normies who havent studied any philosophy of mind at all. There is nuance in how many possible positions can be taken there and there is nuance how many different notion are for physicalism and thats why you need to be sensitive in your arguments to those nuances (if you want to categorically rule all of them out or if you want to at least evidentially want to argue against all of those positions) and only targeting normies wont be enough for that.

Edited 2 hours ago by zurew

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, zurew said:

Kastrup is read up on the literature when it comes to philosophy  of mind

I know all those positions and they are garbage. Not worth discussing.

All of analytical philosophy is nonsense.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura