Are incredible men just average women?

[enchanted]

Check out this video as it might clear some things up for some disenfranchised people here

[Hezbollah]

34 minutes ago, enchanted said:

disenfranchised

Wow thats a new

[Leo Gura]

Good video

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Yep enjoyed - he called it. Misandry. That IS what is being smuggled around under the guise of 'modern feminism'.

[Hojo]

On a weird not once you show the women you are not competent they will start to want to build around you like a social network and care what you have to say.

If you show competence they treat you like a tool if you show incompetence they treat you like they treat other women.

I think its sociopathy.

Edited Friday at 06:11 AM by Hojo

[Recursoinominado]

Nahh, that's just a dumb talking point from immature women.

Pure gaslighting.

[Lila9]

I think that after thousands of years of patriarchy, after a systemic war against femininity that cannot be denied and hasn’t ended yet, it is very reasonable that men would receive a backlash. It is sad, but I am not surprised.

Yes, patriarchy is not men, but it is a system created by men for benefiting men, and men for thousands of years enjoyed the privilege it gave them (though it also hurts them in ways most of them are ignorant to) at the expense of women and children. They did nothing to change it, and still don’t do, and don’t care much beyond their survival and selfish interests.

I also don’t think that misandry is something common or as common as misogyny. Yes, women are angry, yes, women are hurt, yes, women tend to avoid men more and focus more on putting themselves first before relationships with men, but this is not because of inherently hating masculinity. I don’t think that men really know what true gender-based hatred is, what systemic hatred is, to the degree of spiritual, emotional, and sexual abuse and murder by the other gender, simply for being born female. I think that men complaining about misandry just because women don’t want to play with their dick anymore (for valid reasons), is so insulting to the true recipients of gender-based violence and hatred. I don’t say it to be an asshole, I say it to put things in perspective.

I also would say that honestly, from the depth of my heart, that women actually crave healthy, kind, and strong masculine energy. Even the most radical feminists, the 4B girls, and even lesbians (in some platonic ways) crave that and admire that. I, as the radical feminist I am, admire the healthy type of masculinity, the one that will never try to manipulate me, exploit me, talk down to me, or dehumanize me, the one that will see and value my femininity and ensure that I am emotionally and physically safe around him.

But, to be honest, how many men are like that?

Realistically speaking, not many, because of the effort it takes to become this sort of man, and also because most men in the last thousands of years of patriarchy didn’t have to embody these healthy masculine traits to survive in the system. The bare minimum was enough, and even, as we came closer to modernity, it is actually the bad guys, the most horrible and sociopathic men who get the rewards, who become billionaires, and the other men just try to imitate them. And women are groomed from a young age to try to appeal to those men, even if they actually don’t really like them. How screwed up is that, isn’t it?

Another note about the hierarchical thing:

I, as a feminist (which is a Goddess fragment of consciousness who believes that women are as much human beings as men, yes, different in some ways, but should be equal in the love they both receive from the system, like two siblings who are different but deserve love from their parents regardless of their uniqueness), believe in natural hierarchy, and I don’t think that most women or feminists are complaining about that. I think that the complaint is about the artificial hierarchy, like people who have power and authority because they decided by some arbitrary rules that they are competent for it, without actually deserving it or having the required skills to handle it with responsibility and integrity.

I actually, and I speak very honestly here, believe that most men have issues with natural hierarchy when it comes to women. I.e., a woman may be a great natural leader, but a non-competent man will be biasedly chosen over her because of the artificial hierarchy in our society, where men are placed above women. Through this lens, the most random and average man deserves more power and authority at the expense of a woman who is actually more objectively fit for this position. This can apply to other things like art, science, spirituality, psychology, etc.

Women have actually experienced it so much in the last thousands of years under patriarchy, the preference for artificial hierarchy over natural one.
So I believe that this is the reason why we, as women, are so much focused on celebrating our achievements, unique talents, and quirks, even if it looks like female supremacy. This is not female supremacy, but women collectively trying to reclaim a sense of self, individuality, and self-actualization, beyond the traditional gender rules, which every human deserves. Women are actually STARVING spiritually. After so many years of surveillance under patriarchy, women have been and still are in a psychological prison, and the freedom is intoxicating. The sovereignty that we craved for so many thousands of years, here it is now, in front of us, and you say that we need to compensate for a man who does us a favor by listening, is addicted to child pornography, and sees Elon Musk as some hero? Come on dude…

I also see that many women reclaiming their femininity outside of traditional gender roles, and it is beautiful. Wimen and men deserve to be whole and explore there masculine and feminine unique aspects which makes them: them.

Did you know that in pre-patriarchal societies, there were initiation rituals for boys to become men? Teaching them to be ruthless enough to kill but kind enough to contribute to the tribe? To take responsibility? To be a MAN?

It seems that there was a forgotten wisdom at that time, so simple: boys are boys, and they will keep being boys until there is a focused effort to make them men. I say forgotten because there are no such rituals anymore. Boys remain boys, and society enables it, “boys will always be boys,” they say.

No pressure to become a man, in fact, there is a pressure to remain a boy, to be even more of a boy: emotionally immature, entitled, selfish, ignorant, and spoiled. But this is branded as being a man. Twisted, isn’t it?

That’s it, this is what came to my mind after watching this video. I know it’s too short, don’t worry, I may add more later.

 

[Ramasta9]

Oh dear...

[LordFall]

 

On 12/11/2025 at 11:09 PM, Hojo said:

On a weird not once you show the women you are not competent they will start to want to build around you like a social network and care what you have to say.

If you show competence they treat you like a tool if you show incompetence they treat you like they treat other women.

I think its sociopathy.

Don't know what you mean by this, it's the complete opposite in my experience. If you're an incompetent man you will only be used as an emotional tampon by women and random gossip whereas if you're a competent one they'll lead on you for support and leadership. It's not being used as a tool it's actually being respected and followed. 

[Hojo]

@LordFall Its better to be the emotional tampon. They actually dont respect the competent man, he is a tool. Woman relate through emotion. Thats why they are closer to their gay friends than their boyfriends. They dont respect the tool they use it and shit talk it behind its back.

Edited 12 hours ago by Hojo

[LordFall]

@Hojo I don't think you understand psychology. If you're a man it seems like perhaps you're going off a sour grapes tangent against competent and powerful masculinity? Women crave powerful and competent men, where do you think that power comes from if not competence in highly competitive fields? Do you see women fantasizing about rappers, musicians, influencers, men in finance, rich men, fit men or random loser men? 

[Hojo]

@LordFallMoney? They are fantasizing about money.

Fantasizing about men in finiance? Get real. No woman has ever said Im fantasizing about accountants.

They fantasize about bad boys way more than fit men and accountants. Because once you are a tool you are boring. Woman hate boring more than being poor.

Edited 11 hours ago by Hojo

[Schizophonia]

Nobody says that lol except for women who are in a ruminatory delirium (i just invented this term) here and there especially on social media

We're essentially among balls here so we don't see it but women have the same ruminatory deliriums.

One could say yes but they're at the opposite polarity; like they complain about not having a boyfriend, but it's because they have too many choices, whereas for us it's the opposite blablabla.

But actually if you look at your closest women mirrors (your mother, your sister, their friends, your own female friends...), you'll see that they tend towards shortage (they settle for random or even clearly low quality men, with no reciprocal effort from the men they flirt with...) if you too.

Because the problem is not the signifier (the opposite sex) but the signified (the object of desire, the "phallus"); it's neurotic. 

The idea is always the same; to see oneself as a victim because a victim is a hero; that is to say someone who integrates into the collective subject.

The more individualistic, capitalist and/or lacking traditional collective structures a state is the more automatically people will become weak, depressed, and crazy; neurotic and sometimes psychotic especially socially disadvantaged subjects.

[LordFall]

@Hojo Bro men in finance is a literally trending topic with gen z and millennial women

An accountant does not work in finance more like in business administration. I mean like working as an investment banker, hedge fund manager, wall street, etc. Massive salaries, big houses and nice cars and a comfortable lifestyle. All the perks of higher competence than average as a man. 

One of the hottest girls I knew working at a busy restaurant in downtown Toronto started dating a really boring looking investment banker.

Definitely a one of the most attractive demographics of men in big western cities. I'd love to see your data otherwise. 

 

[Hezbollah]

3 hours ago, Hojo said:

They fantasize about bad boys

 

[Hojo]

@LordFall These are succubus. They will move in have sex with the man put a leash on him then fuck the pool boy.

Listening to a finance platform talking about how women like men in finance isnt data.

This is money they want. If there was a loser with money they would be in the same category.

Ironically this woman is what this post is about. She wrote the most retarded song ever and is on the news being worshipped like shes incredible.

Edited 3 hours ago by Hojo

[EternalForest]

On 12/12/2025 at 8:22 PM, Lila9 said:

I think that men complaining about misandry just because women don’t want to play with their dick anymore (for valid reasons), is so insulting to the true recipients of gender-based violence and hatred. I don’t say it to be an asshole, I say it to put things in perspective.

I don't think you understand that sex and intimacy is a basic human need and millions of men are being denied that because of hypergamy. It's you who is being insulting to the male gender. And btw, not saying he's a saint, but Elon Musk has done more for the world than the average woman ever will. No need to stigmatize men who look up to the literal richest man in the world.

[LordFall]

@Hojo Do you have any data to backup your claims or are you just venting your frustrations online? I think you are honestly wrong man