Are incredible men just average women?

[BlueOak]

As I see it mentioned.
Get off the dating scene. Approach girls in real life, talk to them. If you can find a girl not on apps, its a good start. Put the work in, don't take the easy convenient approach, build things irl. Convenience is not a place to start off for the long term in my opinion.

I had more women approach me this last year, approach me, because I just talk to anyone now. I couldn't care less. I picked one of the ones interested and we are happy. But i'd known her for months. Its not like i'm the most handsome guy around either, I just talk to a lot of women. I also hate 'game', I just ask them how they are show interest, sometimes make them laugh when a chance comes with something harmless but unexpected.

(But i'm naturally also protective of people which many find attractive when they see that side of me).

Edited 11 hours ago by BlueOak

[BlueOak]

6 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I actually don't think regular guys have high standards either. I think the high standards on both sides of this conversation are internet/not real world. Guys don't care about makeup and dressing like a model.

Outside of your 20's or when men mature past image.
Truth

Loyalty and trust are infinitely more sought-after traits universally in partners.
Which by the way are considerably higher standards in the modern day 'convenient' approach to dating. Ditch convenience, its the solution to it all.

[Lila9]

14 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I actually don't think regular guys have high standards either. I think the high standards on both sides of this conversation are internet/not real world. Guys don't care about makeup and dressing like a model.

I don’t know, it may vary, but I guess it is okay to have high standards if the person is willing to offer the same value to others.

 

 

 

[BlueOak]

11 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

I don’t know, it may vary, but I guess it is okay to have high standards if the person is willing to offer the same value to others.

Its okay to want anything.
Getting all these wants is another matter.

People are real and messy. Not data on a profile. Or a bunch of words in our heads.

[Lila9]

26 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

Ok. This is not a issue that I experience personally. 

Actually, these guys hate me because I'm a "Chad" who have it "easy".

What I do know is that men are suffering, women are suffering.

Life is hard for those who are born poor, ugly, mental health issues, bad genetics.

Survival doesn't give a f*ck.

I see. I agree. 

[Elliott]

3 hours ago, BlueOak said:

Outside of your 20's or when men mature past image.
 

Even in the 20s, sure guys are infatuated with the model type, but put a hygenic girl as @CARDOZZO says in front of them and they're satisfied, (for marriage they want more than hygiene but not in the looks department). Sure they'll rank girls based on the model type, but really, they're satisfied with average looking girls.

Just as 20s girls are infatuated with rich Chad's, most are still completely satisfied with normies.

Really, the only problem is individually, the guys and girls being ready for a real relationship, most knowingly aren't and are insecure about it.

Edited 8 hours ago by Elliott

[Elliott]

2 hours ago, Lila9 said:

I don’t know, it may vary, but I guess it is okay to have high standards if the person is willing to offer the same value to others.

 

 

 

That's not to say most guys are ready for a real relationship.... just that when/if they are, average is plenty good enough. Most guys aren't confidently ready for a real relationship, so they just seek sex.

Edited 8 hours ago by Elliott