Are incredible men just average women?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, CARDOZZO said:

If you want to see what regular masculinity is - talk to the average guy on the street. They have dreams, they like girls, they just want a life full of meaning and a woman to live with.

Why do you think man learns pickup? 

The mindfuck is that those guys who learn pickup care more about woman than anything else. The majority of man in pickup are regular nerdy guys who does not have confidence to even talk to woman. 

This worldview that man are extremely powerful creatures with godly powers is completely wrong. Society teaches it as a generalization. 

The reality is that we as man are born with nothing and we are expected to carry the burden, the generalized concept called "MAN".

If you are born as a man, you automatically needs to know male things instantly, being strong, powerful, useful, charismatic, mysterious but not so gay, girly, emotional, spiritual. 

We are just normal guys trying to survive. 

The map is not the territory.

I think while society is built as a patriarchy - it is wrong to blame or think all men are for, or created it.

Because in reality the patriarchy was built by an elite group of men. 

And the typical guy (as you describe) is just as much a victim of it as women can be ! Men as a whole should not be blamed for the patriarchal nature of society. But everyone should be aware of how we play the games it is built on - especially unconscious, damaging social hierarchies that status signal in a negative power seeking way.

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Real, real, real.

This is a biological feature, we as man do not have control over this variable. It just is.

Women (not all of them) doesn't understand that we are born with this huge sexual drive and we are judged by women as promiscuous.

Yes it is a HUGE point of difference and many women - almost all women I know in my personal life, do not understand it or comprehend how much of a need it is. My respect to the men who can channel and contain this immense desire in a healthy & powerful way that avoids exploitation and enhances connection and creativity  

Edited 6 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Natasha Tori Maru]

47 minutes ago, EternalForest said:

I mean, masturbation isn't even in the same CATEGORY as intimate sex with someone who loves you. 

I've never had sex at all, let alone with someone who loves me, and for that I feel like I'm missing out on something huge. I could masturbate everyday for the rest of my life and it still won't fill the void.

So what I truly want isn't sex, it's a deep, fulfilling relationship.

You elaborated better the point I was trying to move toward earlier.

I think masturbation has nothing to do with sex, personally.

2 different things, fulfilling totally different needs.

[CARDOZZO]

58 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Because in reality the patriarchy was built by an elite group of men. 

Indeed.

How would you feel if you discovered that women always had all the keys to dissolve patriarchy? How would you feel if you discovered that feminism was a psyops to brainwash women into thinking they are powerless and man are the bad ones?

Edited 6 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[CARDOZZO]

55 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Yes it is a HUGE point of difference and many women - almost all women I know in my personal life, do not understand it or comprehend how much of a need it is. My respect to the men who can channel and contain this immense desire in a healthy & powerful way that avoids exploitation and enhances connection and creativity  

spread the word  

[EternalForest]

3 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

You elaborated better the point I was trying to move toward earlier.

I think masturbation has nothing to do with sex, personally.

2 different things, fulfilling totally different needs.

Thank you, and thanks for understanding. A lot of men's problems are self-created but a lot of them are also circumstantial out of our control and we're socially stigmatized from speaking out, the same way women are for certain things... So empathy from women like you honestly means the world.

Edited 2 hours ago by EternalForest