New Video: Why Truth Is The Highest Value

[Nivsch]

@Inliytened1 The self is not anti truth but the way one see the self.

 

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

@Inliytened1 The self is not anti truth but the way one see the self.

 

Spiritually speaking the self is.a fabrication.  So you have fabrication then wanting to hold Truth as it's highest value.  The answer here is awakening to your true nature which is Truth or God.  Still the ego will want to play it's deceptive.games.  These are wise words but unfortunately they will fall on deaf ears because the ego is so.stuck on deception.  Aligning oneself with Truth doesn't necessarily have to be by emodiying it.  I think the highest understanding is that all is Truth regardless of embodiment.  Because even if you yourself are able to embody Truth to the a high degree- which will still be finite - you will not be able to alter the rest of the population or society's level of Consciousness.   Embodiment turns out to be an egoic endeavor. 

 

 

[gettoefl]

It depends. Once the human starts to live for 10,000 years, which isn't far off, there won't be much difference between god and me.

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Mel B said:

@Leo Gura sounds like Elon got inspired by the “tech billionaire corruption part” in the video 😉

This is an example of his fake values. He says those words but he doesn't live them. He does not want to sacrfice to know what is real.

This is just an ego trip. The ego loves to cloak itself in truth, as a champion of truth. But if he watched one of my videos he would hate me and click off.

Edited yesterday at 10:55 AM by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

10 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

However it could be her Truth. So if the girl doesn't understand what Truth is and to her it is her religion then this dismantles your entire argument.   

The point of the video is that there exists such a thing as a genuine desire to know what is true. This desire does not depend on any particular beliefs.

Care for truth is not determined by Leo's opinions or beliefs. Either she cares about truth or she does not. If she does, eventually her care will lead to questioning which will dismantle her religion. If if doesn't, then she didn't really care. How do I know this? Because all religion is a human construction. That's the truth, regardless of what anyone believes.

Edited yesterday at 10:47 AM by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This is an example of his fake values. He says those words but he doesn't live them. He does not want to sacrfice to know what is real.

He needs some Ralston slowly inserted in his arse.

He cannot question deeply because he is so full of shit, no more room for new knowledge.

Ironically, he wants to 'know', when it is the opposite of what he wants without even realizing it.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Leo Gura how do you address that the self itself is anti-truth? How can yiu expect somrthing that is anti-truth to be true?  Very difficult to be true when you are surrounded by a lie.

The small self is anti-truth but the True Self is Truth. So it's just the issue of being less egotistical.

It's like you are saying, "But how can I be less selfish if I am a self?" Well, you can be less selfish. Just do it. There is joy in selflessness and truth-seeking. It's not like I'm asking people to swallow razor blades. Everyone has a selfless side, even assholes and liars.

1 hour ago, AION said:

@Leo Gura when you say God is not mental but it is being, do you point at the physical world? 

Yes, the physical world, but God is also mental because the physical world is mental. It's all one Mind.

[Daphne]

This video made me realize ive been putting my feeling value over truth for far too long!! It snapped me back into the present moment and really questioning myself, feelings and the truth. I discovered that in the present moment, what is truth, is that i dont have any valid reasons te be afraid. My ego is making it all up. Result; bye fear ive been wrapped up in this illusion for so long.  
 

[AION]

52 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The small self is anti-truth but the True Self is Truth. So it's just the issue of being less egotistical.

It's like you are saying, "But how can I be less selfish if I am a self?" Well, you can be less selfish. Just do it. There is joy in selflessness and truth-seeking. It's not like I'm asking people to swallow razor blades. Everyone has a selfless side, even assholes and liars.

Yes, the physical world, but God is also mental because the physical world is mental. It's all one Mind.

Mental domain without The physical is just a brain fart while the mental + physical is truth / realization / manifestation. That is how I see it. While transcendence is letting go of the falsehood. 

Also you define existence as infinite value but I think you don’t mean it in the human sense of value. What is your definition of value?

Edited yesterday at 11:46 AM by AION

[Alexop]

This was a bang. I think my fetish is to watch this with my future hot philosopher girlfriend that is so intelligent and mature that she can switch from femininity to masculinity based on context. But probably, when I will have that experience, the alarm klock will wake me up, and will continue to keep my biggest passion, philosphy, for myself while telling all the kids around stuff that wakes good feelings in them so I keep my sex needs and survival in check  

Cheers master! Fuck that modesty, you are the truth king.

Edited yesterday at 12:17 PM by Alexop

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

The point of the video is that there exists such a thing as a genuine desire to know what is true. This desire does not depend on any particular beliefs.

Care for truth is not determined by Leo's opinions or beliefs. Either she cares about truth or she does not. If she does, eventually her care will lead to questioning which will dismantle her religion. If if doesn't, then she didn't really care. How do I know this? Because all religion is a human construction. That's the truth, regardless of what anyone believes.

Interesting.   Ok i agree with that. Unfortunately most people even though they care have their care distorted.  I would say distortion of the Truth is a better word then corruption in this case.  Their version of Truth is distorted thus even if they did care it will get them a distorted version of Truth  Few will be able to dismantle their beliefs. 

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

The small self is anti-truth but the True Self is Truth. So it's just the issue of being less egotistical.

It's like you are saying, "But how can I be less selfish if I am a self?" Well, you can be less selfish. Just do it. There is joy in selflessness and truth-seeking. It's not like I'm asking people to swallow razor blades. Everyone has a selfless side, even assholes and liars.

Thats true and it agree with that. As long as you are expecting some level of distortion of the Truth via the lens of the self.  I think its important to set expectations accordingly.   You make it sound in the video like it's black and white and expect that you can reach perfection as the self. Just try to live truthfully but if you slip up thats Ok - and if you don't value Truth as the highest today that's OK.  Try in your life if you can.  If you don't thats also OK.   Distortion is OK.  What I'm saying is be wary not to demonize distortion. 

Edited yesterday at 12:27 PM by Inliytened1

[Dazgwny]

7 hours ago, Mel B said:

@Leo Gura sounds like Elon got inspired by the “tech billionaire corruption part” in the video 😉

@Mel B i saw this from musk about an hour before I saw the video was out. Gotta say it had me laughing 😂

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, Dazgwny said:

@Mel B i saw this from musk about an hour before I saw the video was out. Gotta say it had me laughing 😂

He could learn a lot here. But he won't.  He still thinks with enough money he can transfer consciousness into another body and achieve immortality.   That to him would make him God and give him Infinite power.  Haha.

Edited yesterday at 12:34 PM by Inliytened1

[Nivsch]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Still the ego will want to play it's deceptive.games.

Not every desire is deceptive. It is worth listening to ego desires too, it can make you expand. Just do it from the right energy and attitude and not reactively.

[Inliytened1]

26 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Not every desire is deceptive. It is worth listening to ego desires too, it can make you expand. Just do it from the right energy and attitude and not reactively.

Agreed. But that is the God or Truth within you wanting to grow and expand. Haha.   The egoic part wants to trap you because it seeks only immediate pleasure.  It doesn't seek to trap you necessarily but it's distorted view of reality focuses only on immediate gratification, thus ultimately keeping you in the hamster wheel. It's the God in you that counteracts this.

Edited yesterday at 01:06 PM by Inliytened1

[koops]

7 hours ago, Mel B said:

@Leo Gura sounds like Elon got inspired by the “tech billionaire corruption part” in the video 😉

The thing with Elon is that he probably believes that he can grasp Truth with his mind, with his thoughts, as if its some logic problem to solve.

 

 

[Sandroew]

Thanks for the video, Leo!

The main insight about Truth is top quality, however the part where you mentioned people who are not spiritually minded was specially interesting to me, because i was thinking about this quite a bit lately. As you said there are people who want to be interested in Truth but its just not in their system or have a hard time to do the labor, but my point is that there are people who are just not interested at all. I can think of a few topics that would make for an interesting conversation, for example:

• Raising the base level of consciousness vs. enlightenment - to advance humanity
• The unfilled role of spiritual guidance in modern societies after religion
• A lot of political stuff, like how advanced should a government be vs. representing the people (this is more of a philosophical question as todays governments don't do either well)

[Alexop]

26 minutes ago, koops said:

The thing with Elon is that he probably believes that he can grasp Truth with his mind, with his thoughts, as if its some logic problem to solve.

 

 

What a buffon lol

[koops]

4 minutes ago, Alexop said:

What a buffon lol

Nah most high IQ scientific people probably think that (Richard Dawkins, Neils Degrasse Tyson etc...)