How do you guys accept the reality of torture?

[Human Mint]

The way you frame it makes it look like you have no option in how to feel, which is true to an extent, but can you see/experience torture and still be happy? I genuinely believe you can 'bulletproof' yourself to the point where torture doesn't hit you as you state.

But on the other hand, if you're schizophrenic then your experience is very much conditioned. Most murders have some sort of mental illness, which in a sense makes them innocents. 

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, Davino said:

All of Reality is inside God's Heart, it's your very own existence.

Never heard this one before. Life surely knows how to keep 'em coming. It's never short of ways to express itself. 

[Davino]

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Never heard this one before. Life surely knows how to keep 'em coming. It's never short of ways to express itself. 

It came yesterday as a beautiful insight. 

Reality cannot imagine something it doesn't love because in existence we are all but the One. I exist, screen is existing, sounds, light, torture, pizza, ... At our core, everything is pure existence or consciousness and that is the insight that brings me into Oneness every single time.

[Sugarcoat]

18 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

99.9 percent of people are in spiritual infancy; even for advanced disciples, how well is that really gonna save them when the worst of the worst is happening? Someone said perhaps some people fly out of their body at some point during the torture. Or maybe they go crazy. I wouldn’t count on insanity to bring any relief in such a situation but maybe I’m wrong. It could be like a going full circle thing where eventually as the suffering becomes so unbearable it turns into bliss. 
 

Picture it this way: imagine when you had a nightmare so terrible you absolutely couldn’t do it and woke yourself up sweating and saying “oh thank god!” For people being tortured it’s a hundred or thousand times worse than that because they simply cannot get away from it possibly for the rest of their life and the horror is much more vivid and all encompassing. If God must have every possible experience to be unlimited, then out of pure goodwill and love, I’m calling this one limitation. We can keep all the other negatives like bullying (my second most hated of all), rape, brutal murders, famine, poverty, and so on. 
 

The idea of infinite experience is fascinating but not worth it. If someone offered me a deal of being tortured in the most unspeakable ways for one year in exchange for everything I could possibly ask for for the next 60 years, the answer would be an immediate and absolute no. It’s gotta go. 

I have similar thoughts you’re really speaking to my heart in this

[BlessedLion]

On 8/28/2025 at 9:26 PM, Emotionalmosquito said:

I’ve struggled with intense hatred towards certain kinds of people more than I can describe, but there’s one thing that no sentient creature should ever have to endure. And that’s being held captive and having the worst things done to them you can imagine for the soul purpose of making them suffer as much as possible. There’s so many different ways to do it and get creative with it, different combinations people can use and so on… it’s more than disturbing, the methods are virtually endless. There are things which just thinking about would keep any decent person awake at night, yet people are living through it with no end in sight and absolutely zero hope of escape. If this only happened to one single being in all of existence, that’s infinitely too many. Now consider it’s been done to countless people and animals in all different forms for a very long time, all the way up to now.

This gives me mental indigestion. So God is everything and everyone. Right? What value does god get from doing this to itself? Illusion or not, this is something that should have never been dreamed up and makes me wish there truly was nothing rather than something.

I really wish this didn’t have to be a thing and I wanna hear your thoughts. 

I also struggle deeply with this. The body has so many nerve endings and is incredibly sensitive, never mind just normal hunger, sickness, old age, but then someone directly and methodically utilizing that? A part of me almost finds it unacceptable, even for God/consciousness to allow 

[BlessedLion]

On 8/28/2025 at 10:25 PM, Leo Gura said:

@Emotionalmosquito Well, spiritual Awakening is the solution for you.

Even an awakened person will suffer deeply if they are tortured. I don’t give a shit how conscious they are 

[BlessedLion]

On 8/29/2025 at 10:35 PM, Emotionalmosquito said:

The idea of infinite experience is fascinating but not worth it. If someone offered me a deal of being tortured in the most unspeakable ways for one year in exchange for everything I could possibly ask for for the next 60 years, the answer would be an immediate and absolute no. It’s gotta go. 

I actually 100% agree with this. I think in life there are horrible things that happen but people learn, heal, etc but someone being tied up and forced to go through endless torture to me just makes no sense. I don’t see why it should exist just because it’s a possibility. It seems very unloving 

[BlessedLion]

Honestly just the thought of that almost makes death or the end of the dream/manifestation a better option. That any beings have to go through that makes me just want the whole thing to end and we go back to being a singularity floating in infinity 

[BlessedLion]

It’s the only aspect of reality where I question Gods benevolence and Love 

[Emotionalmosquito]

1 hour ago, BlessedLion said:

Even an awakened person will suffer deeply if they are tortured. I don’t give a shit how conscious they are 

They would feel physical pain and discomfort, lots of it. But I do think a fully enlightened person would at least suffer from it less than a regular joe or Jane. Look at those monks that sat there perfectly still and focused while burning alive in protest of the Vietnam war. Of course that didn’t take long to kill them but maybe it shows it can be done to some extent. 

Edited August 31 by Emotionalmosquito

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Emotionalmosquito

Thích Quảng Đức

Apparently - the monk's heart did not burn. Not even upon his re-cremation.

It is amazing we have this image, as with the advent of AI, these could be faked.

It is also the cover art for a self-titled Rage Against the Machine album.

 

[gettoefl]

There is pain or God but not both. Choose well.

To think God knows of pain is ego's best yarn.

Edited August 31 by gettoefl

[LordFall]

@Emotionalmosquito Do you understand the practical applications of torture? Gathering intelligence from your adversaries through torture has been used for millennias and has many uses apart from sadism. You can also look at torture in terms of lack of efficiency in our factory farming system. Unfortunately torturing animals en masse to feed ourselves is the point in our civilization that we're at currently. 20 years from now that should change and with AI/CCTV I think that criminal torture will stop as well.

I find that understand these things logically takes away from the emotional horror of it. If you're not a foreign spy or do business with criminal organizations there aren't many ways for you to end up being physically tortured by another human being so I wouldn't worry about it too much. 

And if it keeps you up at night to worry about human suffering consider that this is just a form of procrastination by your ego. If you really want to end it I would send at least 6 hours a day studying AI business models and you'll have huge impact on the state of the earth over the next 5-20 years. 

[BlessedLion]

23 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Emotionalmosquito

Thích Quảng Đức

Apparently - the monk's heart did not burn. Not even upon his re-cremation.

It is amazing we have this image, as with the advent of AI, these could be faked.

It is also the cover art for a self-titled Rage Against the Machine album.

 

The photos have a strange beauty to them, showing the power of standing for something and also the depth of consciousness in that monk. 
 

@Emotionalmosquito I def agree most awakened people would suffer less but still even the most awakened would have a serious disdain toward being tortured and not just be blissed out. At best they’d go into Witness Consciousness to get through it 

[gettoefl]

Torture is the assertion I can break you short of killing you.

Namely you are the 99% that has a breaking point and will do my will.

Torture for torturing's sake is sadism and that's a different discussion.

Edited September 1 by gettoefl

[Michael Sneg]

without experiencing torture at least second hand, i doubt anyone can offer anything of assisstance to you here

it is horrifying experience and the best way i came about coping with it is that try to avoid it to rhe best of your abilities and with heavy heart accept that evil exists in this world

[Sugarcoat]

If you happen to be in a lifetime devoid of torture. I think it’s wise to try to prolong this life by being healthy, both in mind and body (also helps in not developing torturous diseases), so that you stay in a decent reincarnation for as long as you can.  Also taking necessary precautions in how you deal with people so you don’t end up with a serial killer or something, and choosing to live somewhere safe etc. But not in neurotic way, that’s just unnecessary suffering. You don’t have to accept torture to find peace. You don’t have to do anything about it actually. You just have to stop thinking about it. Or if you happen to think about it: delete the negative charge of your mind. Why would you be scared of a mental image? It’s just an image, you could never actually imagine torture, so the imagination is cut off from the real thing. 

Edited Friday at 04:10 PM by Sugarcoat

[cistanche_enjoyer]

On 05/09/2025 at 6:10 PM, Sugarcoat said:

so that you stay in a decent reincarnation for as long as you can

But you are God, you can choose any reincarnation you want! So no need to have fear.

Only if you wish so, you will reincarnate as a victim to torture. Who knows, maybe when you merge into Infinite Intelligence, you will realize that’s the best next thing for your soul  

[Sugarcoat]

4 hours ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

But you are God, you can choose any reincarnation you want! So no need to have fear.

Only if you wish so, you will reincarnate as a victim to torture. Who knows, maybe when you merge into Infinite Intelligence, you will realize that’s the best next thing for your soul  

But when you are here you have attachments and aversions and don’t feel like you’re god..

[Schizophonia]

On 30/08/2025 at 2:18 AM, Princess Arabia said:

This the dream. 

Lol i already saw this guy.

Our YouTube algorithm is definitely similar.

On 30/08/2025 at 1:45 AM, Sugarcoat said:

What is fourth density?

I lowkey talked about that when i kidded about " videos about how I am Jesus Christ and will become aware of 5D and return to the source"

Edited 12 hours ago by Schizophonia