Tai Lopez SCAM

[Leo Gura]

When it comes to learning pickup, you need to learn the core principles of inner and outer game, but you reject the unethical scammer mentality and misogyny.

Just cut out the corruption.

Edited September 30 by Leo Gura

[Lucasxp64]

The best RSD guy that I found is Todd V. I like his style, he's a great teacher.

Here is one of his videos on inner life game, the probabilistic mindset.

It would be interesting if @Leo Guramade a whole video on having a probabilistic based mind as opposed to a "fear based mind". I think that goes alongside the subconscious reprogramming content he is working on.

I think this explains a lot why we kinda go crazy or discouraged when doing something that is highly probabilistic and it's hard to judge if we are getting better or worse with short time frames, specially with dating/game and business.

 

Summary from NotebookLM by Google:

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The video transcript features dating coach Todd V, who reveals his past as a professional poker player to illustrate critical life lessons applicable beyond the card table, including in dating, finance, and business. He emphasizes that life, much like poker, is probabilistic, meaning that while short-term results are often dictated by luck, long-term success is almost certain if one consistently makes good decisions rather than focusing solely on immediate outcomes. Todd V also identifies "winning as a skill" that requires discipline and self-control, contrasting focused players with talented but self-sabotaging individuals, and introduces the concept of "tilt"—letting emotions negatively control behavior—which can be mitigated by focusing on the present moment and knowing when to stop. Finally, he stresses the importance of "game selection" by choosing environments where one has the highest chance of success and accepting that while life is not fair, one must still take the right actions to succeed.

 

Here is another video of the same subject from a professional trader

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The core problem for traders is that the brain is hardwired to evaluate risk and safety using ancient, primitive mechanisms built around fear and avoidance of danger, which often conflicts with the modern, logical demands of trading. This ancient "limbic learning" translates into psychological beliefs about adequacy, worth, and powerlessness that manifest as emotional reactions under stress, leading to poor trading decisions rather than relying on probability. To overcome this, the source proposes a six-pronged program focusing on emotional regulation and mindfulness to disconnect self from thought, confronting inner fears, developing emotional intelligence through discipline and courage, and maintaining vigilance against both fear and overconfidence to transform the fear-based mind into a probability-based one.

 

Edited October 1 by Lucasxp64

[Twentyfirst]

On 10/1/2025 at 0:48 AM, Lucasxp64 said:

I think Tai Lopez should be taken with a whole shaker of salt, but we can't deny he's a major street hustler and I think there are lessons to be learned of marketing about how he scams people, taken ethically. But I don't think that what he teaches is best found in him, it's the same kind of internet marketing guru archetype that we have known, Tai Lopez just happened to be the earliest most successful of that type, people were much less immune to that kind of guru and he made consistently money back for each dollar spent right away with YouTube Ads, those days those marketing funnels take more time to make money, and there is more of a need for giving an air of authenticity like how Alex Hormozi does.

I'd say Tai Lopez isn't even a great teacher, he's sloppy as heck as a teacher and focus most of his efforts on hype advertisement.

Alex Hormozi is a spetacular teacher, that guy works hard as heck, wrote 3 great books and pumps great content on the clock.

Tai Lopez kept using the initial success money to keep going harder and deeper into scamming

He moved into scamming investors by doing acquisition of brands and being cocky thinking he could return profit with some stupid low effort crypto crap and setting e-commerce stores with those brands and failing to return profits, and probably even lying.

He didn't even bother to become a great teacher, and his YouTube channel has plummeted in views.

Do you really want to live the lifestyle of Hormozi? Dude totally swallowed everything the matrix tries to sell. I would rather live a fun life like Tai or Owen than a brutally productive life like Hormozi

[Lucasxp64]

33 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Do you really want to live the lifestyle of Hormozi

Of course not. I was comparing the quality of their educational content.

Comparing Owen to Hormozi is not possible. But Tai Lopez to Hormozi is, and Tai is obviously lazy as an educator.

But when it comes to how I wanna live?

I have a hard stop at spending the purchasing power of today's worth of 20k USD/Mo for my personal life in terms of luxury even, and securing that wealth until I'm dead so 20k * 100 years (just to be cautious with the math, excluding black swan events such as nuclear wars, etc, it can be much less if someone is optimistic about market growth and inflation), that's my hard stop for personal use. So it's 24 million dollars total at worst, 0% effective growth of a passive investment portfolio just with above inflation let's say, 24 million is the number for me, anything past that is ludicrous and it's done for some mega project not for my personal enjoyment. I'm sure even Owen is already past that (the poorest of the 3 of them), like, is he spending more than 20k monthly? That's plenty of luxury.

But I think, realistically, just 3~5 million would last me a lifetime at 5k/Mo expenses, and that would still be some serious level of luxury if I kept living in Brazil for example in a nice neighbourhood, or just go after an European citizenship of some nice and warm Mediterranean romance language country, since my native language is Portuguese and like it there. And just chill living off AirBnbs while getting laid and focusing on personal inner growth, maybe having a light project on the side like a YouTube channel or writing some books, or whatever while I enjoy the company of a 8/10 chick.

Edited October 1 by Lucasxp64

[Twentyfirst]

This guy went to Tai's house and realized he doesn't actually read all those books haha

[Mayonnaise]

@Lucasxp64 rande howell is great. learned a lot from him. However for Todd V, that is one of the cringiest pua's i have ever seen, you dont need any fancy games and gimmicks, just keep it real. its like 90% your internal state, 10% leading. Fancy games and lines don't work and will backfire, unless your inner game is extremely on point

[Twentyfirst]

Now his YouTube channel has disappeared. Crazy, there was ten years worth of content on there

[Lucasxp64]

Holy cow. I saw it. It's down. Tai Lopez is finally going down.

The dude didn't learn his lesson, what a stupid moron, he's getting charged with Ponzi Scheme allegation of 112 Million dollars.

He didn't stop at the legal guru grift and went straight up for financial crime.

I thought he was at least an intelligent grifter, but nope, he's too greedy.

Intelligent grifters are those that do legal and sustainable grifting.

[Twentyfirst]

2 hours ago, Lucasxp64 said:

Holy cow. I saw it. It's down. Tai Lopez is finally going down.

The dude didn't learn his lesson, what a stupid moron, he's getting charged with Ponzi Scheme allegation of 112 Million dollars.

He didn't stop at the legal guru grift and went straight up for financial crime.

I thought he was at least an intelligent grifter, but nope, he's too greedy.

Intelligent grifters are those that do legal and sustainable grifting.

He posted an Insta story today trying to make sales to high net worth clients 

[Something Funny]

What on earth made you think that buying anything from tai lopez is a good idea? He is literally the most known self help scammer out there, lol.

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

What on earth made you think that buying anything from tai lopez is a good idea? He is literally the most known self help scammer out there, lol.

I had a pickup friend who bought all of Tai's material and swore it was good for him. I could not talk him out of it.

Haha

Edited Thursday at 06:58 PM by Leo Gura

[Phil King]

Honestly as easy as it is to clown on him, I did like a lot of his videos. I never bought anything from him but I always resonated with his life philosophy of pursuing health, wealth, love, and happiness.

He is a similar figure to Owen cook where you can learn a lot from him and take what resonates while filtering out the scammy stuff. I would much rather a son of mine listen to tai Lopez than some doiche like Andrew Tate or some other manosphere influencer.
 

Ill miss his YouTube channel

[Yimpa]

Tai Lopez:

Also Tai Lopez:

Edited Thursday at 09:30 PM by Yimpa

[Leo Gura]

"Offer", Lol.

I offer Tai Lopez a dick on a plate.

Edited Friday at 02:47 AM by Leo Gura

[Twentyfirst]

7 hours ago, Phil King said:

Honestly as easy as it is to clown on him, I did like a lot of his videos. I never bought anything from him but I always resonated with his life philosophy of pursuing health, wealth, love, and happiness.

He is a similar figure to Owen cook where you can learn a lot from him and take what resonates while filtering out the scammy stuff. I would much rather a son of mine listen to tai Lopez than some doiche like Andrew Tate or some other manosphere influencer.
 

Ill miss his YouTube channel

He is a gate opener. If you are making money online in 2025 chances are you learned from somebody who learned from Tai or rode the wave of Tai. He did launch a generation of entrepreneurs. Other people did too but he was just so damn early to the game and delivered it to the masses. When someone bites the initial bullet of having to bring the masses a new way of doing things you gotta respect that regardless of their character. I guess at that point you see if he did more good than bad or more bad than good and weigh it out

If you pay attention a lot of advice online is watered down advice from him a few weeks after he posts it. I don't see any problems buying a 50-250 dollar course from him and leaving it at that. I think not listening to anything he says is just as bad as listening to everything he says and giving him all your life savings

He has good frameworks of thinking. But you have to go beyond thought if you want real health wealth love and happiness but very few people know that there is a dimension beyond thought. All unenlightened people fail at some point or another through an explosion or implosion. Hell, even enlightened living can be tough sometimes even with all the tools available

I like 1st Man on YouTube. He is really cool, brings original ideas, and has been consistent for years

Edited Friday at 04:52 AM by Twentyfirst

[museumoftrees]

On 9/30/2025 at 6:03 PM, Leo Gura said:

RSD Derrick is also an epic scammer.

People who work in RSD are traumatized hustlers, starting with Owen. The fish rots from the head down.

Why do you think Owen supports Trump? Hustler respects hustler.

That's one thing I can't wrap my head around. He seems to think COVID was a hoax and he's in favour of Trump. I truly don't get that. But I don't listen to his videos anymore, I hit a point of diminishing returns. However he is kind of a genius and has amazing videos especially the old ones. Good for orange motivation.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, museumoftrees said:

I truly don't get that.

Of course he think Covid was a hoax. Because Covid lockdowns stopped him from gaming.

It's just unconscious survival 101 followed by rationalizations.

He does whatever suits his survival. Trump suits his survival because Trump is a con-artist and pickup is con-artistry.

If sucking goat dick helped Owen improve his game, he would be for it. This isn't complicated.

Edited Friday at 07:19 AM by Leo Gura

[koops]

I bought Tai Lopez 67 Steps back in 2015 for 7$.

That program was the real deal.

Also I got into reading because of him and his booklist.

Is a great way to start your self help journey in stage Orange. You just need to evolve from it.

 

 

[Twentyfirst]

14 hours ago, museumoftrees said:

That's one thing I can't wrap my head around. He seems to think COVID was a hoax and he's in favour of Trump. I truly don't get that. But I don't listen to his videos anymore, I hit a point of diminishing returns. However he is kind of a genius and has amazing videos especially the old ones. Good for orange motivation.

Most of the people in favor of Trump are really just against the crazy leftists. People need to let go of this Trump thing it becomes obsessive. How hard is it to understand people hate woke so anything else is paradise by comparison. The woke took it too far too fast and pushed their luck. The woke were shoving their insane beliefs down everyone's throat and had no decorum or subtlety. What's the point of a democracy if someone who doesn't agree with your vote is automatically demonized?

Owens issue is that he still isn't tired of the lifestyle and somehow hasn't exhausted or burned it away. Someone who is conscious gets tired of it in about 6 weeks but he's been doing it for 20 years

Edited Friday at 08:32 PM by Twentyfirst

[Yimpa]

Who needs Tai Lopez when you've got Tai Pei w/ Honey?