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@Natasha Tori Maru

Change the word Truth with Objective fact

43 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Joshe her experience was actually personally verified truth. Whereas others were presenting ideas as facts. And this is what this place is all about - truth! Facepalm moment there...

 

 

 

Truth = Objective Fact

Your words mean you cant argue with her.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Your words mean you cant argue with her.

Where did I state that? 

I mean, the context was that all perspectives are relevant and not to be dismissed. Even Schizo's.

You are making meaning out of nothing. Seeing shit that aint there.

Did I say absolute truth? No. I said personally verified through real world experience. Which in the case I presented was to illustrate that this perspective carries more weight. Perspectives are usually closer to truth with measured against reality.

Again - anyone can argue with anyone. No restrictions. 

 


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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@Natasha Tori MaruTruth means objective fact. It cant be personal experience. That means that everyone is right and you cant have discussions. Im asking you clarify that statement because that word dosent belong there it dosent make sense.

Im pointing out a logical fallacy.

Its like saying the bananas are bananas cause they are bananas.

Once you give a personal experience the label of truth you generate a loop in logic. Because truth is not subjective.

whats the truth = personal experience

whats personal experience = the truth

whats the truth = personal experience

whats personal experience = the truth

It dosent make sense.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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28 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Obviously, one cannot go through life as a nitwit might - knowledge is essential - but the ability to snap back to a state of open not knowing is a HUGE asset.

True. 

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1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Schizo knows it all on everything. Lol

When I first started getting on here, he kept popping up on me talking about “mirror effect”. I was like, “who is this Dunning Krueger mother fucker”? Lol. 

But here lately, I actually think he has a lot of potential since he’s only 21. Independent thinker and access to insight. Some of it is actually good if you look close. 

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23 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Natasha Tori MaruTruth means objective fact. It cant be personal experience. That means that everyone is right and you cant have discussions. Im asking you clarify that statement because that word dosent belong there it dosent make sense.

Im pointing out a logical fallacy.

Its like saying the bananas are bananas cause they are bananas.

Once you give a personal experience the label of truth you generate a loop in logic. Because truth is not subjective.

whats the truth = personal experience

whats personal experience = the truth

whats the truth = personal experience

whats personal experience = the truth

It dosent make sense.

Nah your mind is snagged on this - absolute truth is absolute truth. I didn't say that - and you are forcing my statement into fallacy by implying I stated absolute truth. 

Truth isn't just some binary thing.

There are partial truths, contextual truths, approximate truths, evolving truths. That is why the spiritual process is about finding out what the truth is for yourself.

You can scream and spam here as much as you like but you should recognize when the discussion is going no-where. No one's mind is being changed and you aren't convincing anyone.

Tappin' out now :)

 

 

 


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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@Natasha Tori MaruI am not talking about absolute truth I am talking about the general use of the word truth. You cant say a personal experience is the truth. Literally  and objectively. You cannot say her personal experience is truth by logic. You directly cannot say that it dosent make sense.

Men dont do this. Thats the disconnect.

Thats sisterhood of the travelling pants stuff.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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@ExploringReality Right back at ya! I was only just recalling on my morning run, my first interaction with you was quite catalytic, but you are a killer chap :) Got a lot of vital real energy. 

Maybe if there ever is this actulized.org official meetup it'd be a great jam, meeting others is always a blast. Flights would eat all my vacation savings, but an experience not to be missed. 

We always have these ideas of how others are. The reality - the real TRUTH - is always a surprise :)

 


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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Find other web developers/business people like yourself and start going to bars or casual drinks somewhere where there are a lot of women hanging around. Just talk and listen. 

Preferably find friends who are absolute yappers and immature as shit; these are the best, they get other men laid.

The most confident, attractive, and likable you'll look to women is when you're listening and talking to someone and having a good time.

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I thank you all for the book recommendations that I was given. I thank you all for the suggestions that you gave.

My one last question is this: to the men in the group that had a demanding job that required logic and being in their head all day, when it was time to hang out and have fun how did you shift from logical non-fun mode to fun-mode.

What were the exact exercises and steps you went through? Were there any exercises you tried by yourself that worked to make you more social when you went out in public?

Breathwork seems to be the only thing that kind of frees me from this thinking and other people can feel it coming off of me as well but I don't want to rely on breath-work as a drug. For now this is what I do since I can't drink. There are no web developers here..lol

@MarkKol you have already shed some great details on this I don't want to bum people out when I'm amongst them when I do go out and try to be social. The thing I battle with is the negative habit trying to pull me back an encourage me to further isolate, which, I can confirm, is reinforcing the negative pattern.

I have resolved myself to just trying to socialize even when I don't feel like it but am not sure how much progress I'm making there, being that people don't respond to me as well. I know the town I live in is small so I'm trying to make the most out of it but I feel like there is hardly anything here to do.

If I can synthesize a series of exercises that other men have been a successful with that I can routinely try over and over again I think I'll be well on my way. 

Karaoke, has been my thing so far. I had my schedule changed so I could hang out with my buddy on Karaoke night. Last time I sung Days Go By by Dirty Vegas but no one gave a shit because the Cops came in, made some arrest and I guess it bummed everyone out :)

I feel like I need another tool in my arsenal, maybe some other outlet as well besides that routine or maybe the universe is trying to tell me this is good for now until I discover something better. 

 

 

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