What is femininity ?

[Jayson G]

3 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Location could also be a factor, as Vegas has a reputation.

But I sense that it's really any woman from any area who is open to passes from random men who run game.

It's a bit of a tell about her level of scarcity of connection and her risk-taking tendencies.

@Emerald Yes, I see that possibility as well. But I'm not sure. I'm sure there are many normal women also who can be seduced by game. 

Every now and then when I think about all this though, I keep thinking: Everyone is different. There are so many nuances, circumstances. Every person is so unqiue in their own way. I get the value of these generalizations, but often I feel they are too limiting. 

[Talinn]

10 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Location could also be a factor, as Vegas has a reputation.

But I sense that it's really any woman from any area who is open to passes from random men who run game.

It's a bit of a tell about her level of scarcity of connection and her risk-taking tendencies.

In Vegas twelve year old kids can do whatever scandalous thing they want in the middle of the night and the cops can stand right next to them and they won't tell them "shoo".

It's kind of harsh to judge all women based on such a depraved city...but on the other hand there are tons of depraved cities like Vegas, just perhaps with less American gluttony.

Edited yesterday at 05:51 AM by Talinn

[Emerald]

2 minutes ago, Talinn said:

Devil's argument : "The culture is so shallow, neurotic and dopamine driven that it's rare for a woman, especially an attractive one, to learn how to take it slow - and they can feel magnetically drawn to quick fixes. So they go to a club "

But I generally agree ( I think the above argument would be an oversimplification. )

There are plenty of attractive and unattractive unstable women.

And there are plenty of attractive and unattractive stable women.

I don't think there's much of a correlation there between instability and someone's natural appearance. (Though perhaps women who hyper-focus on their looks and focus heavily on beautification might be more likely to have insecurities)

But I do think that the men who believe that there is a correlation between hotness and craziness have psychological patterns that make them more attracted to "crazy" women.

And this makes them draw the false conclusion that all attractive women are unstable and crazy... because the ones they find attractive are unstable and crazy.

For example, a guy who's more avoidant will find a woman who has an anxious attachment style more attractive than a woman with a secure attachment style. The psychological attraction will be off the charts because he is afflicted by the same problem, but copes in the opposite way.

So, the statement that "Hot women are always crazy" is really just another way of saying, "I have a pattern of being attracted to crazy women. And when women aren't crazy, I don't find them as attractive."

[Emerald]

Just now, Talinn said:

In Vegas twelve year old kids can do whatever scandalous thing they want in the middle of the night and the cops can stand right next to them and they won't tell them "shoo".

It's kind of harsh to judge all women based on such a depraved city...but on the other hand there are tons of depraved cities like Vegas in their own ways . . .

That happens in Tampa too. When I was 16, I went to Tampa with my then-boyfriend who used to live in Tampa.

And it was revealed that his female cousin, who was 13 or 14, was sneaking into strip clubs, doing drugs, and drinking. She was really rough.

Really, every single town or city has these patterns. But any place that's a bigger city with a night life is going to have them extra.

[Emerald]

5 minutes ago, Jayson G said:

@Emerald Yes, I see that possibility as well. But I'm not sure. I'm sure there are many normal women also who can be seduced by game. 

Every now and then when I think about all this though, I keep thinking: Everyone is different. There are so many nuances, circumstances. Every person is so unqiue in their own way. I get the value of these generalizations, but often I feel they are too limiting. 

I'm saying that unstable women are significantly more likely than stable women to be receptive to pick-up. You gotta be at least a little crazy or in an unstable situation in life to be receptive to it.

[Jayson G]

3 minutes ago, Emerald said:

I'm saying that unstable women are significantly more likely than stable women to be receptive to pick-up. You gotta be at least a little crazy or in an unstable situation in life to be receptive to it.

@Emerald Maybe in a club, if she comes home with the guy I could see that possibility. But imagine if a guy meets a girl at a bus stop, and has a casual conversation for some time, and he casually asks her if she'd want to go out. 

That is also pickup, and I'm sure there are women who aren't really crazy at all who'd be receptive to that. 

I think there are many versions of pickup. Not all is club-oriented. I think to say one has to be a little crazy to be receptive to it is just not true honestly. 

Much of mating is just a natural form of pickup. Guys pursue girls, and girls want to be approached. I think its completely normal. Pickup doesn't have to be this elaborate hardcore strategic thing, or just some club game or whatever. 

[Emerald]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Frankly, I'm getting sick of this whole masculine/feminine distinction. It's so full of group-think and mindless conformity.

People never even question it, they just parrot whatever they heard somewhere.

Try noticing how you made this distinction up.

My list comes from my experiences with Ayahuasca in combination with learning systems of archetypal symbolism to understand dreams and synchronicities.

Understanding the archetypal Feminine and Masculine is very helpful in decoding anything based in mythos.

It can also help you recognize if you are in resistance to one or both polarities... and to help you drop that resistance.

For example, prior to my first Ayahuasca journey at age 20, I was fully of the mindset that Masculinity and Femininity were pure social construct.

But once I had the experience of ego de-centering that came with that experience and I no longer had any identity to lose or maintain, the aperature of my consciousness expanded.

And I was out in my friend's backyard and night. And I was sitting there. And this one was my most visual journey, where I was feeling so connected with nature and watching the plants grow around me.

And I got hit by a sudden insight that the most accurate word in the English language for describing the subtle energy of the night and the plants was "Femininity". And it was so completely different from human gender norms.

And the same energy was within myself... but deeply repressed. And it became clear that everything I valued was in opposition to this energy. And furthermore, everything in society was working in opposition to this energy.

So, in the years after that I sought a lot of ways of being to reconnect with the Feminine. And I sought it out in both Feminism and traditional Femininity... but could not find it there.

And that's what led me to Jungian Psychology. And this is where I learned conceptually about the archetypal Feminine and Masculine... and because I knew what Femininity actually was from my experience, I could sense the "vibe" of the Feminine. And in any dichotomy, I can intuitively pick out which is Feminine and which is Masculine.

Once you have experienced these polarities directly (outside of rote gender roles), you can easily intuit it. It has a very distinct vibe.

And in my later medicine journeys of recent years, I typically experience myself as my small human self (which is Feminine) and my eternal self (which is Masculine).

The experience of awakening in these journeys is quite a bit like being Shakti and waking up to the fact that I'm also Shiva for a brief time.

Like, I am a temporary flower growing from an eternal tree... and I am the eternal tree itself. I am both in one.

But for this lifetime, I prefer to be embodied as the temporary flower. And that is my way of embracing the Feminine in this life... which is difficult because my temporal Feminine self is very curious about my eternal Masculine Self.

So, I am not parroting anything. The list of dichotomies that I made is accurate to my experiences of the vibes of these polarities. And once you experience them directly, you can easily pick it out.

But most people don't understand what Masculinity and Femininity actually is on this level. So, they default to a shallow understanding of gender norms and how women and men are... or (worse) how they ought to be.

Edited yesterday at 06:22 AM by Emerald

[OBEler]

On 24.7.2025 at 5:33 PM, Leo Gura said:

Are you kidding me? Half the women I've dated are mentally unhinged to the point of having clinical diagnoses.

The crazy/hot chart is true.

I can confirm Leo absolutely. Even here in Germany, too. And I think it's common knowledge around the globe: The hotter the girl, the more difficult to handle their craziness. They are ultra spontaneous and are changing their moods fast. They have phantasys which even a child could see as phantasy. They are low on testosterone, soft skin, great body proportions. They look just hot.

And even here on this forum. We banned a lot of good looking attractive girls because their crazy behavior went against countless of grounded forum rules.

It's funny that here on this forum only girls disagree. They probably try to protect their gender. But that's not truth seeking. 

Edited 20 hours ago by OBEler

[Schizophonia]

40 minutes ago, OBEler said:

I can confirm Leo absolutely. Even here in Germany, too. And I think it's common knowledge around the globe: The hotter the girl, the more difficult to handle their craziness.

Most of girl are nice and submissive. 

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They are ultra spontaneous and are changing their moods fast. They have phantasys which even a child could see as phantasy.

What's the problem, it's cool.

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And even here on this forum. We banned a lot of good looking attractive girls because their crazy behavior went against countless of grounded forum rules.

Lol no most of banned people are men and i bet most of girls that have been banned are not very attractives. 

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It's funny that here on this forum only girls disagree.

No

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They probably try to protect their gender. But that's not truth seeking. 

This truth-seeking thing is a submissive, mama's/daddy's boy kind of thing. Like, your superego isn't simply based on common law, but is archaic and tyrannical.
No wonder you and Leo are attracted to women who cut your balls off.

Edited 19 hours ago by Schizophonia

[OBEler]

@Schizophonia you have some bias in your mind. Don't look at the absolute numbers but on relative. Of course there are more men banned here because here on this forum are 90% people men. But from these 10% girls we have a relatively high ban rate.

I can sense on your answer that you are more feminine. Nothing wrong with that, just telling you.

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by OBEler

[Schizophonia]

6 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Schizophonia you have some bias in your mind. Don't look at the absolute numbers but on relative. Of course there are more men banned here because here on this forum are 90% people men. But from these 10% girls we have a relatively high ban rate.

 

 

But there is precisely the bias that they are spiritual girls, therefore probably stranger than average.

 

@Sugarcoat @Princess Arabia @Asia P @Judy2 @Natasha Tori Maru don't have erratic behaviour. 

There are other girls i don't remember the pseudo too who are well 

The only banned woman I know is Sidra Khan and she is average.

Edited 19 hours ago by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

9 minutes ago, OBEler said:

 

I can sense on your answer that you are more feminine. Nothing wrong with that, just telling you.

 

 

Why.

 

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, OBEler said:

I can confirm Leo absolutely. Even here in Germany, too. And I think it's common knowledge around the globe: The hotter the girl, the more difficult to handle their craziness. They are ultra spontaneous and are changing their moods fast. They have phantasys which even a child could see as phantasy. They are low on testosterone, soft skin, great body proportions. They look just hot.

And even here on this forum. We banned a lot of good looking attractive girls because their crazy behavior went against countless of grounded forum rules.

It's funny that here on this forum only girls disagree. They probably try to protect their gender. But that's not truth seeking. 

I’m being honest I don’t know and haven’t met enough people in order to draw a conclusion about women like that. If Leo has approached 1000+ women then yes he has more say in the matter

Im a lone wolf that’s why

But it’s not about protecting my gender. I’m not offended at all. I was just a little suprised because it doesn’t fit the women I’ve met in my life, I thought this crazy hot woman was like a stereotype, a minority of like influencers in Miami or something 

[Judy2]

6 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

But there is precisely the bias that they are spiritual girls, therefore probably stranger than average.

 

@Sugarcoat @Princess Arabia @Asia P @Judy2 @Natasha Tori Maru don't have erratic behaviour. 

There are other girls i don't remember the pseudo too who are well 

The only banned woman I know is Sidra Khan and she is average.

well, i feel flattered:)

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Schizophonia Thank you - really appreciated!

I don't date women, so I don't have any experience being in relationship with attractive ones and experiencing the crazy spoken of.

I just hope the generalizations being made assist these users, and don't act as a limiting frame.

[OBEler]

10 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Schizophonia Thank you - really appreciated!

I don't date women, so I don't have any experience being in relationship with attractive ones and experiencing the crazy spoken of.

I just hope the generalizations being made assist these users, and don't act as a limiting frame.

See, thats typical feminine answer.

You appreciate schizophrenias answer because his answer was on your side. Which makes you feel good. What about truth here, has he contributed to truth in any way? 

"I just hope the generalizations being made assist these users, and don't act as a limiting frame."

As a man you normally don't care about these generalizations being useful or harmful or limit you in some way. Just primary, if they are grounded in reality. 

Edited 18 hours ago by OBEler

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, OBEler said:

As a man you normally don't care about these generalizations being useful or harmful or limit you in some way. Just primary, if they are grounded in reality. 

So you don't critically analyze concepts and frames?

[OBEler]

@Natasha Tori Maru you cannot probably understand. It's not about usefulness or how it helps you. It's not about you or anyone. It's just if it's true or not.

Typical feminine is just about how it helps you. If it's useless for you, dont speak about or denie it. That's distorted way to see reality clearly. As a girl you can do that because your man on your side will help you if you get too lost.

 

Edited 18 hours ago by OBEler

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, OBEler said:

@Natasha Tori Maru you cannot probably understand. It's not about usefulness or how it helps you. It's not about you or anyone. It's just if it's true or not.

So, you ARE critically analyzing the frame - to test if it is true.

It's not my ability to understand that is the issue. 

It is your imprecise language.

And for your information, I am perfectly within my rights to thank a user for remarking I am not an emotional basket case. And for you to imply his statement is untrue, is implying I have erratic behavior.

Check yourself.

[Xonas Pitfall]

1 hour ago, OBEler said:

The hotter the girl, the more difficult to handle their craziness.

The hotter the guy, the more difficult it is to handle their ego, greed, lust, and narcissism. It goes both ways, haha.

The more attractive you are in general, and considering you haven’t faced much backlash in life and are still relatively young, the more you can get away with things. This is an attractive-people thing, not just a guy or girl thing. (Also edit: As @Schizophonia pointed out, it’s more of just a toxic person thing, to be honest haha. It’s just that the more attractive you are, and if you’re a toxic person, the more you can get away with. But yeah, still non-gendered.)

Again, you can’t call women the crazier gender when men, throughout history, have been more aggressive, impulsive, cheating, causing unnecessary wars, domestic violence, and creating laws that benefit them and disadvantage anything not like them. It took thousands of years just to get some gender equality, who do you think was electing for this? History alone shows plenty of blind spots on the men’s side. Again, I’m not saying women are the better gender now; I dislike these gender wars. I’m just trying to point out the biases here. You have to remember that anger, inability to control lust and horniness, and inability to be vulnerable are also unhealthy emotions that should be seen as "crazy" and incredibly toxic as well if not regulated.

Edited 18 hours ago by Xonas Pitfall