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@bazera Yeah from what I see, all it is is that, mainly a reputational blow. Unintentionally, its possible it accelerated the pace of the technology improvement overall as well across many companies, and conversely they're also getting feedback on their code right now lol, all kinds of improvements by regular folks, which should improve their own architecture.

@Leo Gura It's honestly surprising how pessimistic you are. And there are a lot of holes in what you're saying. 1) "how one error or bug can break your whole company" .. If you think Anthropic is fucked because of this, you're being naive. Company's give away their code all the time. What makes Claude Code still a stand-alone product is the engineers and their continuous movement, pace and evolution. A month or 2 from now, they would have written their entire codebase again from scratch. 2) If any company who writes AI code has thorough checks, guardrails, and security, AI or not, then how does it matter if its AI-generated or not. 3) "The notion that you can vibe code your way to maintain a billion dollar software project is insane." That's literally what Anthropic is doing, and tons of other companies. The evidence is mounting against your statements but you think all companies are liars if they say they use AI to write code. You hand-pick specific incidents, and you don't even use these tools and test them yourselves. Your statements come from a larger initiative you've taken to find "corruption" in everything you come across. You speak about things you don't have experience with, and you adopt a lens of finding corruption everywhere that you don't see the full picture. The notion that you can vibe code your way to maintain a billion dollar software project is insane. - Nothing crazy about it. This conformist vibe coding mentality will kill companies. Mark my words. - Saying that's conformist doesn't account for all the diverse kinds of people who operate in all kinds of ways benefiting from Claude Code. You think all these minds are dumb and you're the only intelligent one when you don't even use Claude Code or these tools extensively. You speak about things you literally have no extensive experience in.

@Leo Gura I think there's miscommunication because it's not that I'm not serious. I've been seriously considering to do it for years. What I was referring to was the deep spirituality it brings you into which scares me off. But for the other benefits you mentioned in the past which I've seen are life transforming, that's what draws me to it seriously, which is why I've been wanting to do it for years.

@Leo Gura I always wondered this, but sometimes I don't know if I want to dive that deep into spirituality, god consciousness and all that, but all the benefits of kriya yoga seem appealing to me. Does it make sense to pursue kriya yoga if you're not actually looking to find god and stuff? I know the very definition of that, is to find god, or union, and I think you said earlier that the goal of kriya yoga is that, but I do recall all the other benefits you mentioned in the past. Practically speaking, if one does it for 6 months they'd know if its the right path for them and whether to continue or not? Maybe thats what gets you to desire deeper spirituality when you experience it for yourself? Just wondering if you had any thoughts on this. I'm still quite business and practical life oriented at the moment.

@Leo Gura I connected with my history teacher after 10+ years and he basically confirmed that this is already happening. They're making his life much harder, AI and the students.

@Leo Gura on a side note, I've been observing your recent replies and I'm not sure but I don't think you commented at all or much on the war with Iran? Not that I'm depending on this, but it would be valuable to hear your thoughts on it .. unless you're planning an episode on the entire fiasco or something? This is the first time I have people, family from around the world affected by this, even hearing the sounds of the attacks and shaking of the windows. This seems somewhat unprecedented.

@Leo Gura ah damn I didn't even think about that. Kid aside, even I don't want to live in a world where everything around me is AI-augmented in terms of meaning, writing, etc. That's quite depressing. Tbh its probably already likely happening, but just the start of it. Billboards, posters, food items, everything. There likely will be no escaping it just like how devices have become an integral part of society that is quite hard to escape.

@Leo Gura well its no different from any other trap a parent should guide a child to avoid in life: drugs, weed, etc. Of course one wouldn't be able to completely shield from AI, but there's still a lot that can be done to prevent crazy AI misuse. Worst case? Move to the scottish countryside and hang out with chickens and cows and enjoy nature and stuff lol .. half kidding half serious

@Leo Gura Yes, I have a big problem with this aspect: "obviate human intelligence, consciousness, and creativity" which is why I vowed to never allow my child, when I have one, to use AI for like 20 years. I can forsee that people will outsource their intelligence to AI and that will just make humans dumber. That's pretty clear that this will occur. My conclusion on AI is that its a hallucination machine, from one perspective. Hallucination is not truth. It is a hyper-creative hallucination machine which they're trying to tame, align, etc. but its still a hallucination machine. Misunderstanding AI as truth has caused me problems. I think also as the community of actualized.org, we are not accounting for many communities who proactively outsource their intelligence heavily, don't know how to think for themselves, etc. and they will all suffer immensely, because this beast will ride them. (not to say that we are immune to its dangers though).

@Leo Gura a quick test of human intelligence vs. AI intelligence hit me when I was talking to ChatGPT and then switched to deep journaling in OneNote. I instantly realized how much more powerful that level of contemplation, creativity, understanding, etc. is with OneNote. I also think there's something quite deeply wrong when they say that AI intelligence is PhD level.

@Leo Gura I think the AI hype is very real, but why are we underestimating the power of these tools though? Here is where I was deceived with AI: 1) I spent months on projects because AI was hyping me up. I saw through that, and now I'm very cautious about long-term decisions and consulting AI on that. But here's where it's undeniably valuable, and not just talking, but actually doing tasks: a) helped me see for example that the US invasion or Iran didn't make Trump a hero for freeing the Iranian people (naive of me to first see), but that there's deeper mechanics at play, with crashing their economy with a targeted play, no current real nuclear threat right now, oil, etc. I was able to see these nuances in a sea of misinformation with politics. That's a pretty real use case. b) AI pulled me out of dangerous situations in Baltimore, helped me solve stressful home repair situations, etc. c) I use Claude Code to apply for jobs for me -> it finds jobs based on my resume, assesses if I qualify, fills out the fields based on what it knows about me, etc. and this has led to a handful of interviews so far, since I started 3 weeks ago. .. Claude Code in particular is quite amazing at task automation, etc. I quite regularly tell it to delete files on my computer, stale, non-needed files, often cache. This is my real experience that has been genuinely useful. Not just talking, but actual task completion. This is only a small list. But would I give my kid AI? heck no. Has it deceived me? Tons of times. But to say this is all just slop and all that misses nuance, and different perspectives. To say these aren't powerful tools is also misguided.

my god, i miss that song mad world .. I haven't thought about that in so long, that was the first song that made me reflect deeply on life as a teen

would be funny if it actually is slop talking about the destruction that slop is doing to our society

@LordFall but strategically that seems like a low reward high cost desperate situation to now anger all these countries in the process, just for targeting a handful of US bases .. I mean to get now not just US and Israel against you, but all these other countries. That can't be that smart?

Gah damn the implications of this are big .. so many countries are getting hit in the process. I have family in Dubai and they're getting hit, and there's nothing I can do about it. Has iran lost their mind to hit so many countries? I understand USA attacked first, and that's also crazy but how are we supposed to make sense of all this?