Do you believe reincarnation is real? Why yes or why not?

[Never_give_up]

This is so important to me cause I am in some weird situation in my life that makes me think that I am not going to be here for too long (maybe I am just catastrophizing) , so I want to know your thoughts about reincarnation. Is this the end or it's eternal? Why do you believe in it or you don't believe in it? Is there a way to know?

I believe reincarnation is real after seeing the video of Leo talking about the implications of Oneness (be careful with this video, it has some heavy stuff). But this is just a belief. No proof.

The only reason I believe in reincarnation is because of determinism and also the question , why would I be me and not someone else? it doesn't make sense. So my intuition says that I must also be someone else. But what if my intuition is wrong? What do you believe? 

[Hojo]

Yes you are you and something else. The you everyone thinks as themselves, will not re spawn. Close your eyes, that you will re spawn. You will not have any clue that that thing re spawned tho, unless you know it. That thing is in everything.

Edited Friday at 09:53 PM by Hojo

[Oppositionless]

What's got you worried?

[PurpleTree]

I think it’s unknowable.

Probably both. Probably true and not true or neither true and not true. 
 

It’s like is there existence? Yes and no.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Very personal question.

Prefacing this with the obvious that what follows below is pure belief. Additionally, I have been tainted due to being an experiencer, which altered my beliefs fundamentally.

I believe the brain 'channels' consciousness. 

When the brain expires, the consciousness still remains - sort of like a broken radio. This radio is gone, dead, never to return. But the radio waves, broadcasts and channels, remain. So if the brain is harmed, consciousness is altered. I believe the consciousness that inhabited my particular form will return to harvest more experience in another body at a later time. The knowledge the consciousness accumulated in the previous form is then built on in the next one. This facilitates growth & experience. To know thyself. Every part of this illusion of reality is a lesson and there is something to be learned. If I do not learn from the experience, the event is repeated over and over until I can see the frequency, the cause & effect, then isolate and learn from it. Master it to alter it. This ties into my other belief that we are here to learn to use, control, influence & manipulate energy. Whether that is in the form of matter or energy is no matter. Emotions, feelings, light, sound, concrete, sex, food. All just energy in different forms. Suicide is no way out. I view it as a short circuit. You didn't achieve what you needed to in the current form, so you will return again in a lower state to learn the lesson again. I view suicide as anti-God. Most souls do not want to actually kill themselves - they just want to end their current circumstances. And circumstances are ever changing.

This life, this experience, this body - it is a gift. And although there is suffering embedded into this reality, there is also joy, as it is an ever changing, flowing pattern. 

So, I guess I believe in reincarnation. 

[aurum]

Don't get hung up on reincarnation.

You're God. Focus on knowing God.

[element]

If existence is since forever and you exist now then... yeah reincarnation seems probable

[Majed]

@Never_give_up I mean potentially your whole body and sense of self is an illusion, so what reincarnation is there going to be, you're already God.

[decentralized]

I believe your body is reincarnating all the time. In my opinion you have existed since a certain period of time (I’m not talking about your Godself, which have existed forever, but your individual self independent from your body) and will continue to exist forever, so it’s important to heal yourself and fix your issues in order to not carry them to your next life. If I didn’t believe in reincarnation I’d probably be a nihilist. 

[Breakingthewall]

I would say yes, there is reincarnation in this dimension of existence or in others dimensions, and indefinitely.

The point is that there isn't a  you that reincarnates, but rather there is a pattern of existence of infinite complexity, interconnected to infinity that restart is another frequency taking the before pattern as a base. 

n other words, all of reality is in that pattern, and it resets cyclically. This is what people confuse with solipsism, because you are the totality of reality, but every interconnection that forms you is also the totality of the reality and contains everything. It's the particularity of the unlimited, which has no limits in any direction, inside is outside, etc.

So, yes, there is reincarnation, but you won't be reincarnated because the you that asks if it will be reincarnated is a kind of superficial hologram, the tip of an iceberg, identity, merely an idea formed by limits that believes he's a human with a past, a characteristics,  who don't want to suffer and want good things,, and this is 1 divided by infinity: zero. 

Edited Saturday at 12:38 PM by Breakingthewall

[MutedMiles]

16 hours ago, Never_give_up said:

This is so important to me cause I am in some weird situation in my life that makes me think that I am not going to be here for too long (maybe I am just catastrophizing) , so I want to know your thoughts about reincarnation. Is this the end or it's eternal? Why do you believe in it or you don't believe in it? Is there a way to know?

I believe reincarnation is real after seeing the video of Leo talking about the implications of Oneness (be careful with this video, it has some heavy stuff). But this is just a belief. No proof.

The only reason I believe in reincarnation is because of determinism and also the question , why would I be me and not someone else? it doesn't make sense. So my intuition says that I must also be someone else. But what if my intuition is wrong? What do you believe? 

I feel it's fairly simple but frightening at the same time. Whatever that I call "me" has been acquired during this life. It's something that was not there before I was born. So I don't see any reason for it to continue after death. And even if "me" existed another time, it will acquire again something which isn't what I'm used to be now, So it doesn't matter.

For me this understanding gets grounded when I see through different stages of my life, though it was me in early childhood, teenage and young age, but there was accumulation through all those periods of life, the "self" as whom I'm living now is not the same one in childhood. So growing further I'm going to acquire more and more and burden the "self" even more. It's an ever changing living thing, unless I wake-up to something new, which could be eternal or ever lasting, however who I am now might disappear in a little while maybe a year or so. So in a way I'm dying already just not noticing it. 

[Someone here]

If you want to know what goes on after you die then go die and find out .that's how this works. 

[Someone here]

@Never_give_up also stop kidding yourself about killing yourself. commiting suicide seems really logical only if:

1-there is literally no other solution to your problem in life even in theory .

2-the pain you are experiencing in life is bigger than fear of death .

Are these two applicable to your life situation?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 hours ago, Someone here said:

@Never_give_up also stop kidding yourself about killing yourself. commiting suicide seems really logical only if:

1-there is literally no other solution to your problem in life even in theory .

2-the pain you are experiencing in life is bigger than fear of death .

Are these two applicable to your life situation?

Hard disagree with this and your post above. Suicide is never the answer. 

1) there is always a solution, it's you're frame and perspective that is limited

2) pain and suffering are just part of this existence 

I've had a hard enough life to seriously entertain suicide. Things changed. 

You just don't know what life has coming. 

 

[Miguel1]

33 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Suicide is never the answer. 

There are definitely cases where suicide is and should be the answer.

And those cases are more than you would believe.

It’s a fantasy to think that we are in such a world where suicide is never the answer.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

8 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

There are definitely cases where suicide is and should be the answer.

And those cases are more than you would believe.

It’s a fantasy to think that we are in such a world where suicide is never the answer.

I respect this answer. There are grey areas IE terminal health cases. And more. 

I just don't want anyone to take things like 'go die and find out' the wrong way 💜🙏💜

I went into protecc mode without thinking there 

[Miguel1]

5 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I respect this answer. There are grey areas IE terminal health cases. And more. 

I just don't want anyone to take things like 'go die and find out' the wrong way 💜🙏💜

I went into protecc mode without thinking there 

I respect the self-awareness and integrity to correct yourself.

Yes, devastating health issues are definitely one of the top ones.

[UnbornTao]

You take for granted what self, life, and you are. Why not start there? 

Edited Saturday at 11:16 PM by UnbornTao

[Natasha Tori Maru]

4 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

I respect the self-awareness and integrity to correct yourself.

Yes, devastating health issues are definitely one of the top ones.

It's genuinely no loss to me to admit I was wrong 🙏 

Thank you for not denigrating me !

 

[Miguel1]

2 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

It's genuinely no loss to me to admit I was wrong 🙏 

Thank you for not denigrating me !

 

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