Leo, How Many God-Realized Women Have You Met?

[Emerald]

37 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

@Emerald 

I read through the whole thread. Your posts are incredible valuable for me are this point.

You basically put all past and my current relationship into a new perspective. A better one  Thanks.

Extremely interesting how cultural ideas of masculine/ feminine can be in contrast to a archetypal properties.

You mentioned medical journeys (Ayahuasca, peyote or similar I assume). Is this the main source of your insights? Honestly, you're the first person describing the m/f energies in this way. Never read about it, too. 

 

Thank you! I'm glad that my posts have helped you see things from a new angle.

My medicine journeys (mostly Ayahuasca) have been a source of my direct experiences of the Masculine and Feminine.

But I also learned a lot about the archetypal Feminine and Masculine from Jungian authors... and more particularly in regards to learning about archetypes.

I also learned different systems that incorporate a lot of archetypal symbolism (like the Tarot). And in using these systems as tools to explore myself and help my clients explore themselves, I gleaned a lot of insights about the Masculine and Feminine polarities that way as well.

If you'd like to understand more about how to integrate the Masculine and/or the Feminine, here are some videos that I made on the topic...

 

[Emerald]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

You're still giving me your begging question.

I believe this is the opposite of reality since I don't know any particularly masculine male spiritual leaders and the archetype of the spiritual man is a slow, out-of-shape Hindu guru, or a slender, gentle man with a ponytail. 

Conversely, when we think of a virile man in the collective unconscious, you who often speak of Jung, we think of a rugby player, a business leader, a construction worker, a farmer, a handyman, a boxer, a gardener, someone muscular, someone with a high libido, who likes big cars, big watches, cigars, whisky, rib steaks... Everything that is precisely close to the earth, to matter, which is tangible.

 

Actually, I'm not even saying that women are fundamentally removed from the material, because I have too much evidence to the contrary as well. I would say that people with a neotenic endocrine profile, or who unconsciously think they are inferior in the social hierarchy (due to education/collective unconscious, traumas), or who have had a bad course of the Oedipus complex, and it seems more women on average, are more likely to resort to less tangible and regressive rescue voices to satisfy their libido, and this includes spirituality (even if in itself, it is less a question of the nature of the object of predilection than the libidinal structure).

 

The issue here is that you're thinking about things as man-likeness and woman-likeness with a heavy emphasis on gender norms and common human gender expressions.

But the Masculine and Feminine supersedes human conceptions of gender and human gender expressions. But these gender expressions are also influenced by the interplay between the Masculine and Feminine as well.

Think of it more as Yin and Yang.

And with the energetic Masculine and Feminine (Yin and Yang), I have experienced this directly in my medicine journeys. And with experience, you can get a sense of what these "vibes" are like and you can intuitively spot them.

Once you perceive them directly, you can get a sense of their "rhythm" and notice their patterns playing out EVERYWHERE.

But with regard to the archetypal Masculine and Feminine, this is more of an intellectual knowledge.

And you can learn about them from Jungian authors and recognize how they play out in art, religious texts, myths, fairy tales, tv shows, movies, dreams, and archetypal systems of meaning... and they are like intellectual snapshots of Yin and Yang in the form of common symbols that exist across many cultures and eras.

One of the more helpful ways to understand the Masculine and Feminine polarity are to understand that the Masculine is doing without being (non-physical)... and the Feminine is being without doing (physical).

But with the synthesis between the Masculine and Feminine, you get the creation of all living and non-living systems... from the cosmos to an atom. You get animated being.

And the Feminine is like the ocean while the Masculine is like the movement of the currents in the ocean.

There is a quote that goes something like "The Masculine without the Feminine is a ghost. The Feminine without the Masculine is a corpse. Either way, without the opposite integrated, the result you get is dead."

 

[Inliytened1]

On 5/11/2025 at 5:35 PM, Emerald said:

@TheGod It depends on what you mean by God-realization.

If you mean a person consistently abides in a state of God-realization... then I have met none (male or female).

If you mean a person who has gotten a glimpse of God-realization, I've had quite a few of those realizations and I also know many men and women who have had similar realizations due to the nature of my YouTube channel drawing people who have had such glimpses to me.

But what I will say is that my God-realization glimpses have only reaffirmed to me to commit to the experience of the illusion rather than to seek to transcend the illusion through seeking God-realization. I have an eternity to be God... but the experience of Emerald is quite novel.

And it is specifically because embodiment in the material form is the Feminine spiritual path and realization of meaning and beauty... while transcendence of the material world and the illusion of Maya is the Masculine spiritual path and the dissolution of both meaning and beauty.

 

I like your outlook regarding your glimpses of Truth, but I think it's stereotyping to say there is a Masculine or feminine path per se.  I think one shouldn't generalize like that.   I believe in order to awaken at all one needs a mix of both Masculine and feminine qualities..even if for a man he has more Masculine than the latter..there needs to be at least some of both.  In my opinion.   

Really it is totally up to the individual after glimpses or awakening if they would like to cherish the dream and the material form they find themselves in but I would think most, man or woman, would find the beauty of life more amplified and magical than ever.

Edited May 14 by Inliytened1

[Natasha Tori Maru]

21 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I like your outlook regarding your glimpses of Truth, but I think it's stereotyping to say there is a Masculine or feminine path per se.  I think one shouldn't generalize like that.   I believe in order to awaken at all one needs a mix of both Masculine and feminine qualities..even if for a man he has more Masculine than the latter..there needs to be at least some of both.  In my opinion.   

Really it is totally up to the individual after glimpses or awakening if they would like to cherish the dream and the material form they find themselves in but I would think most, man or woman, would find the beauty of life more amplified and magical than ever.

I agree with your thoughts as highlighted above.

I was not able to 'break through' until I had integrated masculine/feminine. Just my personal experience.

I definitely chose to come into this existence in female form as this was the energy type I needed to master, primarily.

Strangely enough, I was much more within my masculine energy initially in life. I rejected my feminine power for a long time.

[theleelajoker]

@Emerald

Thx. Quite interesting as I recently had some experiences that gave me an impression to tap into sth very deep, Jungian like collective unsonscious. Just happened and then later I assosiated it with Jung's description. It also touches on some of the uncomfortable questions re women and history of supression, adding an aspect you did not include in your posts before - the topic of guilt. If interested in more info, PM.

@Natasha Tori Maru "I definitely chose to come into this existence in female form as this was the energy type I needed to master, primarily." 

Makes sense for my personal journey, too ;D

[Sugarcoat]

10 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

Yup 👍 

I showed her nonduality nonsense videos but she said she gets culty or creepy vibes from those guys (newman, gangaji etc)  

 

I couldn’t imagine not resonating 

[Wilhelm44]

@Emerald  Thank you for the in depth response, I am curious, how is separation feminine, and how is oneness masculine, I would have guessed the other way around ?

[PurpleTree]

4 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I couldn’t imagine not resonating 

Keeper!

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

Keeper!

Hahah thanks 

❤️

Edited May 14 by Sugarcoat

[kbone]

@TheGod

She may be using such terms to distinguish some flavors of how/why people search, but without acknowledging that any honest 'path' is about transcending AND including, much like the 10th Oxherding dealio. As such, once her rendition of such a "Masculine Path" is realized, impermanent appearances can be embraced, played with, experienced fully, enjoyed, etc without all the baggage born of ignorance that gives rise to suffering. That, I guess, is what she means by "Feminine Path". Could be wrong...

After all, what are such 'illusions' when seen for what they are...

[BlessedLion]

@Lila9

 

Regarding my first point, I’ve seen many hardcore female spiritual practitioners, I’m talking fully devoted teachers go back to jealousy, reactivity, and even rage over men in a community they are competing over. It’s just to point that they aren’t as transcended as it might seem. I’m not judging them, I’m definitely not over those human reactions either. But we shouldn’t act like spiritual women dont fall into heirarchy (looks, age, status), competition and monkey games either. 
 

I actually completely agree with you about women being more comfortable not knowing and men having to know everything. 
 

I think that more evolutionary, if a guy leading the clan or tribe was unsure or not confident in what he was leading, the tribe wouldn’t survive or follow him. There’s almost a survival need for arrogance and being assured. Also I think men take pride in understanding and being able to prove things to others. It is kinda silly I agree 

Edited May 14 by BlessedLion

[BlessedLion]

23 hours ago, Emerald said:

Thank you! I'm glad that my posts have helped you see things from a new angle.

My medicine journeys (mostly Ayahuasca) have been a source of my direct experiences of the Masculine and Feminine.

But I also learned a lot about the archetypal Feminine and Masculine from Jungian authors... and more particularly in regards to learning about archetypes.

I also learned different systems that incorporate a lot of archetypal symbolism (like the Tarot). And in using these systems as tools to explore myself and help my clients explore themselves, I gleaned a lot of insights about the Masculine and Feminine polarities that way as well.

If you'd like to understand more about how to integrate the Masculine and/or the Feminine, here are some videos that I made on the topic...

 

Going to watch your vids. Thanks! 

[Emerald]

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12 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

@Emerald  Thank you for the in depth response, I am curious, how is separation feminine, and how is oneness masculine, I would have guessed the other way around ?

The Masculine is the spiritual. And the Masculine is about the singularity of God and non-relationship. 

The Feminine is the material and Earthly plane. And it is about relationship, which requires separation... and a sense of self and other to realize. 

So, the Feminine is about connection through the lens of the illusion of separation between self and other.

And the Masculine is about the realization of oneness, when all is realized as God and there is no longer any sense of separation.

So, it is likely that you associated the Feminine with oneness because you relate the Feminine to connection and relationship. But in order to have connection and relationship, you have to have the illusion of the duality of self and other.

So, the Masculine is about oneness. The Feminine is about twoness.

[Emerald]

2 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

Going to watch your vids. Thanks! 

Thank you for checking them out!

[Salvijus]

On 2025-05-13 at 10:27 PM, Emerald said:

But Love is actually Masculine principled.

2 hours ago, Emerald said:

The Feminine is the material and Earthly plane. And it is about relationship, which requires separation... and a sense of self and other to realize. 

Love and relationship go together. Love is where communion is. Union between two is love. So love is feminine. 

Masculine is a complete opposite from relationship. It's a complete detachment. Uninvolved, witness state of pure awareness. 

Feminine is manifestation, masculine is dissolution. 

Feminine is infinity, masculine is zero. Two sides of the same limitless coin. 

If you are in relationship with everything, you're Infinite love (feminine). If you respond to nothing, detached from everything, you're limitless emptiness (masculine). 

 

Edited May 15 by Salvijus

[Salvijus]

3 hours ago, Emerald said:

But in order to have connection and relationship, you have to have the illusion of the duality of self and other.

That's true but duality is not an illusion. It's as real and valid as nonduality. Duality is part of nonduality and nonduality is part of duality. They create each other. Oneness creates duality, duality creates nonduality. One cannot exist without the other. They are one inside the other. Like life and death. Like a snake eating its own tail. 

Edited May 15 by Salvijus

[Emerald]

1 hour ago, Salvijus said:

Love and relationship go together. Love is where communion is. Union between two is love. So love is feminine. 

Masculine is a complete opposite from relationship. It's a complete detachment. Uninvolved, witness state of pure awareness. 

Feminine is manifestation, masculine is dissolution. 

Feminine is infinity, masculine is zero. Two sides of the same limitless coin. 

If you are in relationship with everything, you're Infinite love (feminine). If you respond to nothing, detached from everything, you're limitless emptiness (masculine). 

It's all a matter of perspective... as it is just looking at snapshots of an infinitely complex thing. And no duality could describe it fully.

But it checks out with my glimpses in my medicine journeys that the nothingness element of God is Masculine and the everythingness element of God is Feminine.

When I went through ego death in one of my journeys, it gave way to the nothingness element of things and there was no Emerald and no reality that Emerald inhabited. It had all only ever been a story and there was blank empty consciousness with no observer.

It was like Emerald was a character in a story... and then, the enlightenment was that the book was thrown in the fire and the story forgotten in its entirety.

And there was no time or space... nor was there a sequence of events.

Yet, somehow (in a way that is inexplicable from my human perspective) there was also the experience of the everythingness element of God. And I understand it now as "rising up out of the nothingness". But that is a concession to make it make sense to my mind and to communicate it.

But in the everythingness element of God, it was the Yin/Feminine element of God... which included the experience of infinite everythingness including infinite suffering.

And it was infinite Feminine everythingness that was being loved relationally by the Infinite Masculine God consciousness. But it was two sides of the same coin.

And "my consciousness" (as God) was grieving all griefs and suffering all sufferings at the deepest level possible... and it was knowing and loving all things in infinite eternity at the deepest levels, forever and ever in an ever-increasing exponential expansion of Love and Knowing.

And this Love and Knowing was Masculine... and the everythingness was Feminine.

Being with infinite Love and Knowledge was excruciating to this facet of God's awareness that was more Feminine. And so, out of mercy towards itself, it limited this part of its consciousness and re-created the Emerald story anew and spun up the reality she had previously inhabited just as it had been "before" the eternity of nothingness that arose as a result of the ego death.

So, from the vantage point of the Feminine everythingness... the Masculine is experienced as infinite unconditional Love towards all things in the everythingness. 

But to speak form a slightly different angle...

The Feminine is about the illusion of separation and duality... which is where relational love (with a lowercase l) between two separate beings comes into play. And this is the way that we tend to think about love as human beings, as we think of relationship when we think of love.

So, we tend to think of love as Feminine because we relate it to femaleness and the association between women and social connectivity.

But when the Masculine awakens itself through the eyes of one who is incarnate in the realm of the Feminine (the Maya), there is the realization of Love (capital L) as a unitive oneness with no separation and no relationships... as a singularity has nothing to be in relationship to.

The way I would describe these glimpses is that through the experience of distance from the ego story (which is very different than the ego death that I described), one recognizes themselves as Love and that all other things are Love... and that nothing exists outside of this Love. 

So, from the perspective of that which is based in singularity and not a relational twoness... Love is Masculine.

Edited May 15 by Emerald

[Emerald]

1 hour ago, Salvijus said:

That's true but duality is not an illusion. It's as real and valid as nonduality. Duality is part of nonduality and nonduality is part of duality. They create each other. Oneness creates duality, duality creates nonduality. One cannot exist without the other. They are one inside the other. Like life and death. Like a snake eating its own tail. 

Yes, the illusion is real and valid... but is still an illusion. But the illusion is necessary for Truth to wake up to itself.

And both relative duality and relative non-duality together equal out to Non-Duality in the absolute.

The same is true of the finite and infinite both being part of the absolute Infinite.

And good and evil are both part of the absolute Good.

It's like the Dao... the wholeness includes the parts and wouldn't be a wholeness without both parts.

[Salvijus]

40 minutes ago, Emerald said:

So, from the perspective of that which is based in singularity and not a relational twoness... Love is Masculine.

There has to be a flaw in your reasoning somewhere but it's hard to pin it down. 

40 minutes ago, Emerald said:

The Feminine is about the illusion of separation and duality... which is where relational love (with a lowercase l) between two separate beings comes into play. And this is the way that we tend to think about love as human beings, as we think of relationship when we think of love.

Probably here. There is no such thing as lower case love and capital case love. The lower and the capital love is the same love. It's just that one is partially inclusive another is all inclusive. But it's still the same act of inclusivity. 

Edited May 15 by Salvijus

[Salvijus]

49 minutes ago, Emerald said:

But when the Masculine awakens itself through the eyes of one who is incarnate in the realm of the Feminine (the Maya), there is the realization of Love (capital L) as a unitive oneness with no separation and no relationships..

See, that's impossible. Love is always a relationship. It is the union between two that creates love. One part of Self is in loving acceptance to every other part of Self. Therein is infinite love. Therein God is having an infinite relationship with itself. God is one, yet multiple at the same time. 

Edited May 15 by Salvijus