How to get really motivated to make a lot of money as a conscious person?

[Recursoinominado]

I have this feeling that i am not alone in this: the more conscious I get, the less motivated I am to "achieve" worldly goals like money, success, fame, power.

When I was less conscious, I was so fired up to have sex, to have the perfect body, to make money, to be successful, to have a good circle of successful friends etc.

Then, I began to meditate, to use psychedelics, to contemplate and, years later, here I am, less motivated than ever to achieve any of those goals or any goal at all. I have seen through it all, I know it won't bring happiness or fulfillment, I can painfully sense the fakeness of it all and the neuroticism of it. 

On the other hand, I am broke, I am stuck in a numb place in which I have to force myself to even think about a career or having sex or whatever.

The thing is, I don't want to live like a monk. I want to exhaust all worldly attachments. I want to make some serious money, travel the world, have sex with beautiful women but when I really think about it, it is all just words, nothing that moves me to take massive action. I have zero motivation or ambition. 

[aurum]

@Recursoinominado it sounds like your ambition issues are coming from a more basic place than having seen through the illusion.

You need to find something feels purposeful and worthwhile. Something that fires you up. What would you spend your time doing if you could do anything?

Make beautiful art? Save the whales? Cure a rare disease? Start a band? Master martial arts? Teach meditation?

What is interesting to you? What gets you excited and feeling like you don't want to do anything else?

[Yimpa]

On 4/26/2025 at 9:53 PM, Carl-Richard said:

Discipline becomes pleasure if you pursue meaning.

 

[Sugarcoat]

On a practical level you could break down exactly what you wanna do with the money and figure out how much you need. Figure out what’s actually genuinely important to you, what you desire strongly and feel is earning of fulfillment.

 To travel the world, there are both cheap and expensive ways to travel. More or less luxurious.
 

There are both simple and harder more complicated ways to earn money. You could work double jobs for a while to earn some money, that’s the simple way, but it maybe won’t make you so much, but with good budgeting you could come a long way with less money.

Other things I’ve heard of is earning money online. But it seems you have to put serious time into learning the skill. There are things like drop shipping, stocks,  etc I’ve heard of. It’s not very “high conscious” way to make money though. But a “high conscious” way is probably the hardest path to take. 

Also you say it’s fake and neurotic. It doesn’t have to be. There are different ways of going about the same things. More or less “conscious” ways. So question that judgement. Plus yes it won’t bring you permanent happiness, but it can bring you a temporary happiness, and a happiness long term if it’s done in balanced way that feels align to you. So you don’t have to think of those things as “lower”. 

Here I go again saying obvious things😂

But basically one of my points being that sometimes we can complicate things in our head because of beliefs we have adopted. So you might have desires but then you have ideas about considering them to be “lower conscious” so you’re doubting if you should pursue them. It’s reasonable to think it won’t give you lasting happiness, but temporary happiness is still good. 
 

 

Edited May 5 by Sugarcoat

[hyruga]

Mine is more of a nihilistic view of the world. What's the point of doing anything when you are going to die anyway within 125 years?

I try to rationalize by saying I can still get rich in a short amount of time.

[gettoefl]

As you wake up, you realize everything is a scam. Parasites profiteering from prey. So what I did is keep buying rental property. Everyone pays happily for a roof over their head. It's still a scam but in this case a necessary evil that keeps folks warm and lets me live the life. Spend half my money, save half my money for the next rental. Why am I motivated? So tomorrow will be juicier than today.

Edited May 5 by gettoefl

[TruthFreedom]

Just go for it anyway.

Having a goal takes you away from yourself, even though you know the goal is not the "goal", so to speak.

[Carl-Richard]

"Pursue what is meaningful, not what is expedient" - J. B. Peterson

[Hugo Oliveira]

This resonates a lot with what I’ve been going through.
I know you're not looking for some step-by-step formula like “make money this way or that way…”

What you're really looking for is a state of ecstasy or fulfillment that maybe isn’t exactly “of this world.” And you — poor soul — might not even know where to find it, and everything starts to feel confusing.

I’m not here to give you an answer, but just to say: I’m with you in this. I think it’s a journey that has a lot to do with self-knowledge, strategy, courage, strength, and maybe even a little dose of ignorance.

What I recommend is that you reflect deeply on your needs and your inner conflicts, and don’t let either one control you. Negotiate with them. Keep moving forward. Sometimes it’s not easy.

[Applegarden8]

By dedicating time to improve your own life, developing systems that help you and others. Researching what other people need and researching for new effective and convenient solutions that will help people solve their problems is one way.

Open a Google doc and start writing, start inquiring. When you have something, make it as a business plan, then look for connections, start a company. Tough you need some experience with entrepreneurship. It will take years to get from A to B with fails, but you can. This is one way.

Big things don't come easy, there's no shortcut. What do you want to enrich the world with?

Edited May 11 by Applegarden8

[hyruga]

Well, being conscious has many levels to it but if you are more conscious, you would recognize some truths and will take some control over your life.

[Ramanujan]

you cant escape the system. so why not play by the rules and win. system is a dumb system designed for suckers. but that doesnt mean you try to escape it. Instead play by its rule and try to win

[Davino]

Awakening can destroy your life if it doesn't go hand in hand with human development and shadow work.

If you get all these three pieces together, you'll be God walking on earth.

Safety needs and social needs are not there, hence like a broken pot, the spiritual nectar cannot be hold in your system for long lasting happiness and peace. It's an Awakening trap, watch out. We've all been there, you need to reconnect with your base, with what makes you human and take responsability for the shitty situation you're in, it's not Awakening per se, it's you and your patterns, liberate yourself! Decide now for yourself: I take responsability for everything that happens in my life. I'll make a strong human foundation to hold higher consciousness. This is the balanced way.

Edited May 12 by Davino

[Natasha Tori Maru]

May I ask - why did you pursue spirituality in the first instance?

I ask, as I was predominantly concerned with existential matters in the first phase of this life.

I scoffed, laughed and disregarded what could be attributed to 'stage orange' type behaviour. I was much more nihilistic & solipsistic.

I reached a point - an awakening, realisation, etcetera. After this, spirituality turned my attention back to the path of crude matter we all experience. But this time, I had the knowledge I was a luminous being integrated within me. And this assisted in dealing with the matter reality.

I chose to apply my attention in the material realms. I found meaning in something external to myself, my thoughts, my feelings, through the knowledge I needed to cultivate a mastery over matter and energy manipulation. Through this meaning, wealth (in the form of money, health, happiness) was the by-product. I use my talents - namely, my ability to manipulate others feelings and leverage power - to build stuff.

I don't know your path or what you choose to pay attention to in this existence. I can tell you, I never had abundance when I focused on cultivating it for its sake. 

I had to know, not simply learn, to operate according to the awakening I had experienced. Basically, if your thoughts, feelings, spoken word & actions aren't all in alignment, shit is not gonna happen. The hardest part is finding where they align for you.

tl:dr You need to find meaning. Spirituality cannot always give it to you.

 

[Yimpa]

On 5/7/2025 at 7:16 PM, Carl-Richard said:

"Pursue what is meaningful, not what is expedient" - J. B. Peterson

We need more one-liners from you 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

6 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

We need more one-liners from you 

I know right? I think 'Discipline becomes pleasure if you pursue meaning.' trumps the one by Peterson

[theleelajoker]

On 4.5.2025 at 11:28 PM, Recursoinominado said:

I have this feeling that i am not alone in this: the more conscious I get, the less motivated I am to "achieve" worldly goals like money, success, fame, power.

When I was less conscious, I was so fired up to have sex, to have the perfect body, to make money, to be successful, to have a good circle of successful friends etc.

Then, I began to meditate, to use psychedelics, to contemplate and, years later, here I am, less motivated than ever to achieve any of those goals or any goal at all. I have seen through it all, I know it won't bring happiness or fulfillment, I can painfully sense the fakeness of it all and the neuroticism of it. 

On the other hand, I am broke, I am stuck in a numb place in which I have to force myself to even think about a career or having sex or whatever.

The thing is, I don't want to live like a monk. I want to exhaust all worldly attachments. I want to make some serious money, travel the world, have sex with beautiful women but when I really think about it, it is all just words, nothing that moves me to take massive action. I have zero motivation or ambition. 

You say you want X but you're not doing it. So how you know you really want it?

I have this often, too.  I want, I want and I can't. But I want so badly. Now I am sad, because I want, but I don't do it. Sucks. And then suddenly, I feel like doing XZY - and before I even realize it, it's done.

So maybe what you want NOW is to be desperate. You want to crave. You want to be in a down mood. You want to feel not motivated. These feeling are there. You can't escape them. But if you stay long enough with them, these feelings want to escape. And then, the fun part begins... : )

Plus: Aurum wrote about seeing through the illusion. Welcome to Maya.

Edited May 14 by theleelajoker