about Majed's love for the white race post

[gengar]

@Leo Gura I don't like how you're simply stating that it's a "murky line" when he is literally preaching white supremacist thought.

Are you one of the people who think that all ethnicities of people can be racist to eachother in the same degree even against white people?
If so, I think that is unintelligent and uncalibrated to the point of making the forum a worse place.
I'm not even one of those far leftists who go as far as to say racism against whites is literally impossible, but come on, we live in a society with a certain history and systems still in place.

There should be some degree of wokeness in place, since if you cater to these centrist strains of thought where "people are just racist and they can just share their opinions bro" , that inevitably will be used in bad faith. Since there is a current of white supremacy in the world, to steer against that current and make the forum a neutral place there should be at least a small current of wokeness in this forum.

Majed literally posts about "Oh those beautiful white people I wish I was among them" and you don't see that as problematic? I guess it's not in the spirit of you nor the forum to give him a woke sermon about that but your reply is way too uncalibrated and unintelligent IMO to the kind of garbage that he posted, to the point of cringe.

[Majed]

@gengar Well i think it's part of exploring consciousness to get a real sense of what the white supremacist mind experience. My post was about pointing to a genuine fascination and admiration towards an aesthetic beauty within consciousness. It's like appreciating art. 

[Lyubov]

I read what Leo said and agree with him, this should be a forum for people to express their beliefs clearly, we will help him deconstruct them, that’s an authentic ways towards truth. At the same time this place isn’t a kindergarten. There’s a level of development required to participate in discussions here or else myself and many people wouldn’t bother coming here. There has to be a line. It’s like if Leo pushed this site out to MAGA and got overrun by bad faith discussions with defensive MAGAs defending their pov. We can’t help everyone. There’s a level of development expected from this community before participating. 

[MarkKol]

White people originated from Europe where they got favorable geographical conditions over everyone else, that doesn’t make white men superior. So it’s not supremacy it’s preference.

Most people have preferences for their own race, you’ll often see US born and raised asians and blacks that gravitate towards their own races naturally.

I have a preference for white people. Something I didn’t know before I started traveling and socializing with other ethnicities. But I don’t have any preferences for my own nationality, quite the opposite actually, riddle me that.

Edited April 25 by MarkKol

[Nemra]

As long as they are not my race, I will automatically be more attentive to them.

Although there could be races that I wouldn't find aesthetically beautiful.

But to say that some races are superior beyond their looks because of their race is delusional.

[WikiRando]

Part of integrating different perspectives is to see the limitations of them. For this white supremacist thing, it's so obvious that this is kindergarten stuff. 

@Majed feels sincere and honest in the exploration, and I actually applaud your openness and honesty which is quite exceptional and valuable really. But there is a trap here of indulging in delusion that enables other real fools to have their supremacist ideology validated and rationalized.

I think if you added some analysis on how to integrate this perspective in a healthy manner instead of just indulging in it full stop, it could be constructive. But that's not what was done. 

I agree that there should be minimum standards here

Edited April 25 by WikiRando

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, gengar said:

he is literally preaching white supremacist thought.

If I see him doing that I will take action. But so far he has expressed his personal preference/bias.

Don't worry, I've got my eye on him. And you guys can let me know if he posts more along these lines and I will intervene.

Edited April 25 by Leo Gura

[integral]

Favouritism is not the same as racism.

He has racial preference, not racism

Racism is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.

he did not do this, You gotta go back and read carefully what he wrote.

 

Edited April 25 by integral

[Daniel Balan]

Bro leave Majed alone! He wrote nothing inflammatory! If you wanna ban someone ban me! I say all the time how much I abhor the entire human species yet I wasn't banned. Majed wrote few lines of how he likes people from a certain race more yet you guys react like he would have kidnapped your mother! Relax! If you were mature enough you wouldn't have over reacted so harshly for something that was basically harmless! 

[integral]

5 hours ago, gengar said:

Majed literally posts about "Oh those beautiful white people I wish I was among them"

A lot of cultures idolize Western aesthetics, this is super common.

Korean culture is infatuated with western beautiful and do eye surgery to look more Caucasian.

My gf entire family did eye surgery... including her father...

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  • Cosmetic eye surgery is very common in South Korea, and one of the most popular procedures is double eyelid surgery (also known as blepharoplasty). This procedure creates a visible crease in the eyelid, which many associate with a "larger" or more "open" eye appearance — traits often stereotypically linked to Western or Westernized aesthetics. -Ai

  • Young Women (Ages 19–29): Approximately 25% have undergone some form of plastic surgery, with double eyelid surgery being the most common. VICE+2Harper's BAZAAR+2Telegraph+2
  • Women in Their 30s: The percentage increases to about 31%. Telegraph
  • Women in Their 20s: Some sources suggest that up to 50% have received double eyelid surgery. Seoul Guide Medical

   

   

Skin Whitening is also common. They also want to look more white and dislike darker skin colors, so they avoid sun exposure and in general have a preference to light skin. ALLLL of there models and actors are alien looking with SUPER white skin.

Majed is middle eastern... Don't get me wrong I think he is controversial on purpose to get attention cuz he loves the attention Rush, but at the same time you got to be accurate for how your understanding of his perspective.

There is a globalized beauty standard which have historically been Western-influenced. Is this random? or is there something deeper here? 

Edited April 25 by integral

[Daniel Balan]

1 minute ago, Daniel Balan said:

Bro leave Majed alone! He wrote nothing inflammatory! If you wanna ban someone ban me! I say all the time how much I abhor the entire human species yet I wasn't banned. Majed wrote few lines of how he likes people from a certain race more yet you guys react like he would have kidnapped your mother! Relax! If you were mature enough you wouldn't have over reacted so harshly for something that was basically harmless! 

Also this bullshit attitude of canceling people for petty laughable reasons is what drove the power into MAGA'S hands! Relax with this overly political correct approach! You guys look silly for jumping like hyenas on a person who just stated his preferences without discrediting any group or race! You all love to talk about DEI but the second someone has a different opinion or a different preference you annihilate and cancel that person. Is that diversity and inclusion? It is leftist bullshit! If this is the attitude people have on this forum for a personal preference of a user on this forum I'm afraid I don't want to take part in such communities!

[Raze]

It was a bait thread to troll. He also posted a thread implying rape wasn’t that bad

And said he failed at pickup but later claimed he was advanced at it

it’s all an act 

Edited April 25 by Raze

[Breakingthewall]

In Roman times, being a white Nordic person was considered inferior. The Arab ethnic group was considered far superior to the Aryans. 

 

[gettoefl]

He is the kid in the candy store. You being triggered is your shadow not his. Let him explore his thoughts. He is sincere and well-meaning.

[Nivsch]

9 hours ago, Majed said:

My post was about pointing to a genuine fascination and admiration towards an aesthetic beauty within consciousness

Maybe you meant only to the physical beauty you see in them?

For example I sometimes think that North European are much prettier (than my country people) because of their blond hair and blue eyes.

Edited Friday at 04:16 PM by Nivsch

[Breakingthewall]

There is a preference for Caucasians as a race because it's the race that has dominated the world and set the cultural, economic, and political pace. This is the case now; it's not absolute; it's something that has undeniably occurred since the Baroque era.

Humans are genetically programmed to bow to the leader, and the leader so far has been the white race, which is why people prefer the white race.

[Nemra]

@Breakingthewall, why are you talking nonsense?

People don't view race like that. They are brainwashed to love their own race.

Edited Friday at 04:32 PM by Nemra

[Lyubov]

I think wording is really important here. It’s valid to acknowledge European ethnic groups have flourished but tell the full story. Tell how many of them achieved survival by enslaving and killing ethnic groups with different skin colors. That has echoed out over time. 

[Breakingthewall]

44 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Breakingthewall, why are you talking nonsense?

People don't view race like that. They are brainwashed to love their own race.

Don't be so angry. Do you know that black women use a rather harmful product to lighten their skin? Do you know that black women in Latin America consider it a success to have a white partner and so when they have children they "improve the race"? Do you know that Asian women modify their features with surgery to look more Caucasian? Have you seen that Japanese cartoons make characters with round eyes? Do you understand that for a Filipino woman it is a success to have a white partner, but for a Filipino man that is almost impossible unless he is a millionaire? I am sorry if reality is not as it should be according to you. 

I'm not saying that whites are superior, just that the collective imagination they are given the circumstances. We'll see how that changes when the Chinese truly dominate the world.

[Breakingthewall]

38 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

Tell how many of them achieved survival by enslaving and killing ethnic groups with different skin colors. That has echoed out over time. 

In old times you either enslaved or were enslaved. Blond whites used to be slaves of the Romans. So, looking Norwegian wasn't something people desired. You didn't want to have Gallic or Germanic ancestors; you preferred to have Persian ancestors.