Is now a good time to buy Tesla Stock?

[Elliott]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

What solid fundamentals does Europe have? 

They're about to have their boat rocked big time lol

 

Americans pay trumps tariffs.

1. They have good trade relations.

2.The government understands science and diplomacy. They don't believe in Santa claus... sorry, I mean God.

3..They don't have a trade deficit, they're self sufficient. France has enough hydrogen to power Europe for 500 years, alone.

4. E.u. debt 16t, U.S. is  36t for comparison, with same size economy and larger e.u. population. E.u. debt is self owned, u.s. is a lot of foreign debt, so e.u. debt payments go into their economy.

Edited April 3 by Elliott

[Elliott]

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg › companies-markets › banking-finance › ...

"Euro jumps over 2% against dollar after hefty US tariffs"

21 hours ago ·

 

 

https://www.fxstreet.com › news

USD/CAD tumbles to near 1.4100 as US Dollar nosedives on US ... - FXStr…

9 hours ago · USD/CAD dives to near 1.4100 as the US Dollar faces a bloodbath. Trump’s tariffs have fuelled risks of a US economic recession

 

 

It's not barista libtards switching from the dollar to the euro....

 

 

 

 

Alphabet stock price is way down. Microsoft is down too, just not really a seemingly limitless company anymore.

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[OBEler]

Will Tesla reach 1000$? What do you think?

 

Teslas robot Optimus has now a lot of competition. They don't have first mover Advantage anymore. Their technology like visual recognitionbin cars is thanks to evolution of ki now outdated and every small startup can now build robots with high intelligent visual recognition. Look also kung fun moves from startup robots. 

What has Tesla to offer that it really rises? Where will the price go.

[LordFall]

On 2025-04-03 at 2:49 PM, Elliott said:

3..They don't have a trade deficit, they're self sufficient. France has enough hydrogen to power Europe for 500 years, alone.

France has a joke of an economy, less than half the growth of the US as well as getting basically forced subsidities from the African countries they have in their Francafrique economic system. 

[Alfonsoo]

On 3/19/2025 at 7:45 PM, Leo Gura said:

The whole market is still very overvalued.

I've been making good gains on gold while all the stocks crash.

Gold stocks I guess. And how do you go about it? Is it just dollar cost avg. or you trade it like fiat?

[FourCrossedWands]

The last "micro-crash" just convinced me it's not a good idea to try and time the market in today's economy.

This is not 20th century anymore, when stocks were priced accordingly to their real world performance. This is a meme stock economy where stocks go up no matter what.

Just buy a little bit of everything (stocks, gold, crypto) and forget it. Everything will go up eventually.

Edited May 3 by FourCrossedWands

[Leo Gura]

On 5/1/2025 at 3:08 PM, Alfonsoo said:

Gold stocks I guess. And how do you go about it? Is it just dollar cost avg. or you trade it like fiat?

I buy the GLD etf. But this is for short-term holding. If you want to hold gold longer than a few years, buy gold bars.

I don't buy gold bars because I want to be able to sell my gold quickly to re-enter equities in a crash. Selling gold bars is a pain.

If I see gold over hyped or peaking too much, I sell it. I sold all my gold at the recent peak because it was obviously an unsustainable level of growth. Since then gold has dropped. Never buy any investment that is going parabolic. That's the surest way to lose money. Buy stuff before it is hyped in the media. I bought gold before anyone in the media was talking about it. Buy stuff when no one is talking about it. Sell stuff when everyone is talking about it.

Of course you can just buy and hold for 5+ years. Then just buy bars and forget.

Edited May 3 by Leo Gura

[Tech36363]

@Leo Gura what do you reccommend to study to make money in investments ?

[ZenRocker]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I buy the GLD etf. But this is for short-term holding. If you want to hold gold longer than a few years, buy gold bars.

I don't buy gold bars because I want to be able to sell my gold quickly to re-enter equities in a crash. Selling gold bars is a pain.

If I see gold over hyped or peaking too much, I sell it. I sold all my gold at the recent peak because it was obviously an unsustainable level of growth. Since then gold has dropped. Never buy any investment that is going parabolic. That's the surest way to lose money. Buy stuff before it is hyped in the media. I bought gold before anyone in the media was talking about it. Buy stuff when no one is talking about it. Sell stuff when everyone is talking about it.

Of course you can just buy and hold for 5+ years. Then just buy bars and forget.

Thanks Leo - I always value your insights on the stock markets --- As a note: so many of the talking heads and analyst on wall street have no idea about the phycology of Trump like we do on the forum here..... They all think this bounce is the start of another new bull market and that he would never crater the economy or it just the "art of the deal" etc --- I am convinced that something he does over the next year will crash the markets.....

[Leo Gura]

56 minutes ago, ZenRocker said:

I am convinced that something he does over the next year will crash the markets.....

It's hard to say.

[yetineti]

Just jumping into the convo— per title— and the ‘Pivot’ podcast (specifically Scott) mentioned now might be the time to actually short Tesla. The board is in arms. GM or another should be able to eat their lunch any minute now.

Musk will likely gain artificial stock boosts by consolidating Tesla into an AI company, like he did with X— but frankly, I don’t see the stock doing anything terrific, big picture.

I am not an Investor. This is not advice.

Here is the podcast.

Edited May 3 by yetineti

[Hardkill]

2 hours ago, ZenRocker said:

Thanks Leo - I always value your insights on the stock markets --- As a note: so many of the talking heads and analyst on wall street have no idea about the phycology of Trump like we do on the forum here..... They all think this bounce is the start of another new bull market and that he would never crater the economy or it just the "art of the deal" etc --- I am convinced that something he does over the next year will crash the markets.....

 

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's hard to say.

Robber barons like Musk probably want a recession so that greedy pigs like him can buy an ample amount of new stocks on the dip.

They also believe that their right-wing propaganda machine, the ignorance and conservative-leaning beliefs of the majority of Americans, the Democratic party's far-left stances on social issues, and using all of the levers of power they have now to subvert future elections will protect them from being punished in the 2026 midterms and/or in the 2028 presidential election. I fear they may be right.

Edited May 3 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

23 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Robber barons like Musk probably want a recession so that greedy pigs like him can buy an ample amount of new stocks on the dip.

Musk is not a robber barron.

Musk doesn't have any cash. All his money is invested in Tesla already. He's all-in. If the market crashed, Musk would not get rich, it would be bad for him and his companies.

[Raze]

If the market crashes we are screwed. Income inequality is so massive at this point the wealthiest class will be able to buy everything dirt cheap, along with their control of government they’ll have basically complete control beyond even now. 

[integral]

1 minute ago, Raze said:

If the market crashes we are screwed. Income inequality is so massive at this point the wealthiest class will be able to buy everything dirt cheap, along with their control of government they’ll have basically complete control beyond even now. 

All of your money and assets have to be put exactly where the wealth in inequality is growing. So that’s mostly Real Estate and businesses and maybe a few other things I’m not aware.

Your 401(k) is a trap

[Hardkill]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Musk is not a robber barron.

Musk doesn't have any cash. All his money is invested in Tesla already. He's all-in. If the market crashed, Musk would not get rich, it would be bad for him and his companies.

How is he not a greedy corporate tyrant who has amassed vast amounts of wealth through ruthless and unethical business practices, similar to Jeff Bezos or like John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, and Cornelius Vanderbilt in the late 19th and early 20th centuries?

Even if he doesn't have any cash, how has he been able to buy media companies like X, donate large sums of money to political campaigns, and bribe voters with million-dollar checks?

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[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

Even if he doesn't have any cash, how has he been able to buy media companies like X, donate large sums of money to political campaigns, and bribe voters with million-dollar checks?

By building companies that provide massive value.

Leftists don't understand how basic business works. Value doesn't fall from the sky, you have to build companies to generate it.

Just because Musk is a douchebag doesn't mean don't build great companies.

Most great companies are built by douchebags. 

Edited May 4 by Leo Gura

[The Crocodile]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

By building companies that provide massive value.

Leftists don't understand how basic business works. Value doesn't fall from the sky, you have to build companies to generate it.

Just because Musk is a douchebag doesn't mean don't build great companies.

Most great companies are built by douchebags. 

What about totally getting rid of currency?

[Hardkill]

37 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

By building companies that provide massive value.

Leftists don't understand how basic business works. Value doesn't fall from the sky, you have to build companies to generate it.

Just because Musk is a douchebag doesn't mean don't build great companies.

Most great companies are built by douchebags. 

I get all of that. Of course, he has created immense value for society and the rest of the world through Tesla and SpaceX. Yet, you know greedy pigs like him still need to be held accountable—just as corporate tyrants such as John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, and Cornelius Vanderbilt were by the early 1900s—even though their companies provided enormous benefits to America and the world.

In any case, why wouldn't Musk be able to use some of his assets from Tesla, SpaceX, or elsewhere in his net worth to buy more stocks during a dip?

[yetineti]

@Hardkill

2 hours ago, Hardkill said:

In any case, why wouldn't Musk be able to use some of his assets from Tesla, SpaceX, or elsewhere in his net worth to buy more stocks during a dip?

He could. The catch is his stocks might dip as well.

Even if they do not, he’d be giving up leverage over his company or companies, it’s a bad look and might cause further sell offs. 

Musk has intertwined himself so deep into his companies. For better or worse, his fate is their’s. Because he owns and operates such a large portion of their stock and boards, the companies own him too.

Taking from one is like choosing a favorite child. I guess Elon has problems there too though .

 

Edited May 4 by yetineti