Truth Music - Mega-Thread

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura Okay. There is some truth in what I am saying.

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura I agree with @Thought Art in that I don't really see how creating AI songs translates to combining this work work with creativity and art.

At least in my mind, it would require a deep understanding of this work and a deep mastery of creativity and art.

You can create an AI song about spiral dynamics (or any of your videos really) after running into them and watching the channel for one day. No serious work in either fields is necessary. 

I agree that, as a proof of concept, it would be cool if people started integrated spirituality and consciousness in their actual art. 

Regarding the song itself, I like the tune but the lyrics are too blatant and crude in my opinion. You can tell that AI just used some keywords from spiral dynamics to create them vs using some more deeper subtle metaphors and poetry or possibly even just sound, without voice at all.

Trying to fit all of spiral dynamics in 4 minute song didn't do them any favors either. And I think this actually highlights the issue of the lack of artistry, a living person, with good mastery of his craft and understanding of spiral dynamics would probably go for a different format. I've seen artists do whole albums meant to be listened in order, build around a single story.

And I think it represented each stage in a rather shallow way, focusing mostly on the issues with each. Not to mention that it skipped yellow altogether.

 

[Something Funny]

14 hours ago, Thought Art said:

I use AI a lot in my work because I am one person trying to generate tones of content over the coming years in terms of marketing it helps me generate ideas... But, most of what I am doing isn't 'original' and it doesn't need to be. I make it authentic to myself... etc and it helps me create these things faster. AI helps with structure of these things for me, and I do the content, and adjust things to my liking in terms of writing. But, these isn't Art.

 

AI generated qi gong follow alongs incoming? 

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Leo Gura I agree with @Thought Art in that I don't really see how creating AI songs translates to combining this work work with creativity and art.

At least in my mind, it would require a deep understanding of this work and a deep mastery of creativity and art.

You can create an AI song about spiral dynamics (or any of your videos really) after running into them and watching the channel for one day. No serious work in either fields is necessary. 

I agree that, as a proof of concept, it would be cool if people started integrated spirituality and consciousness in their actual art. 

Regarding the song itself, I like the tune but the lyrics are too blatant and crude in my opinion. You can tell that AI just used some keywords from spiral dynamics to create them vs using some more deeper subtle metaphors and poetry or possibly even just sound, without voice at all.

Trying to fit all of spiral dynamics in 4 minute song didn't do them any favors either. And I think this actually highlights the issue of the lack of artistry, a living person, with good mastery of his craft and understanding of spiral dynamics would probably go for a different format. I've seen artists do whole albums meant to be listened in order, build around a single story.

And I think it represented each stage in a rather shallow way, focusing mostly on the issues with each. Not to mention that it skipped yellow altogether.

You have no vision nor understanding of potential.

You are that guy criticizing the first Wright Brothers plane for only flying 500 ft.

Edited March 29 by Leo Gura

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura I can see a vision of a person practicing their own art becoming an amazing artist in 10 years and a person creating AI songs getting pretty much nowhere because anyone can learn his skillset in a few months of practice.

Sure there is potential. But that is an Open AI's potential or whatever other AI company's potential. You are not the Wright brother in this analogy! You are a passenger in an already made commercial plane, or a test driver in an early plane model, if we are being generous. 

There is no serious skill growth opportunities or potential for your own personal development with AI prompting.

Does AI have huge potential for giant projects like movies, tv shows, games, etc.? Sure. But this has nothing to do with you becoming a better artist.

People forget that art, in its original form is about skill expression and creativity. Not about creating giant entertainment industries, pushing out blockbuster movies and making money.

This issue actually predates the AI. The most efficient way to depict a landscape it to take a photo of it, not to sit there for hours and draw it by hand. The most efficient way to make clothes is to order them from some Chinese factory, not to try to sew them yourself or go to a tailor. But that's not the point!

And even if your goal was to get a job in one of those industries, they are not going to hire a guy who did ai prompts for 10 years. They are going to hire a guy who is a legit artist or a legit creative director with great portfolio and 10 years of job experience, and who also has some skills with AI, which aren't hard to acquire. It's either this or there will be complete automation with zero people required at all. Neither of this scenarios involves hiring a random AI prompt guy off the street.

Edited March 29 by Something Funny

[StyxNStone]

@PsychedelicEagle

My pleasure. 

 

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura I’m just gonna focus on my art…

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Something Funny said:

Sure there is potential. But that is an Open AI's potential or whatever other AI company's potential. You are not the Wright brother in this analogy! You are a passenger in an already made commercial plane, or a test driver in an early plane model, if we are being generous. 

There is no serious skill growth opportunities or potential for your own personal development with AI prompting.

This topic has nothing to do with AI. It's about the potential of combining spirituality and art. About making art more existential and profound rather then stage Orange memes.

Whether AI is or is not used for that is irrelevant.

The Wright Brothers moment is not about AI, it's about opening your eyes to the nexus between art work and consciousness work.

Edited March 29 by Leo Gura

[Yimpa]

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Edited March 30 by Yimpa
playing with the baby

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura I see

[vibv]

This song of mine is from 2019! I made Truth Music before anyone here even thought about that 

Maybe there'll be a version where you can understand the lyrics better, but here they are:

Lyrics:

[PART 1]
When people pass me by
I can see their eyes.
Filled with silent tears
That were never cried.

Look at them going...
On with their lives.
Running in circles
Of their own mind!

[PRE-DROP]
Imprisoned expressions
Locked up so long.
Infinite aliveness
There is nothing wrong.

[BRIDGE]
You must be a fool
So that you can understand.
There never was any point to it all
And it has no beginning or end...

[PART 2]
Look at them going
On with their lives...
Filled with silent joy
I see it in their eyes!

[integral]

 

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[Verse 1] I was fine in my delusion, No guilt, no conscience—just lying. Didn't need accountability,

[verse2] immigrant tears. border funding, Democracy crumbling, But I caused it—yeah, I caused it.

[Pre-Chorus] And maybe I should care, but I love the way it pays. A little bit of treason never taught me how to change.

[Chorus] I'm falling deeper— Like a debt that I dodge, like the weight of my crimes on the world. My empire's teetering— And I don't want to pay, I don't want to face what I've done. Ooh, ooh— I don't want to face what I've done. Ooh, ooh— I don't want to face what I've done.

[Pre-Chorus] And maybe I should stop, but I crave the power rush. A little bit of fascism never taught me how to blush.

[Bridge] What's my legacy, what remains? If this is history, I should be ashamed. Killed democracy — Turned this nation to chaos, as they cheered me on.

[Chorus] I'm falling deeper— Like a debt that I dodge, like the weight of my crimes on the world. My empire's teetering— And I don't want to pay, I don't want to face what I've done. Ooh, ooh— I don't want to face what I've done. Ooh, ooh— I don't want to face what I've done.

[Pre-Chorus] And maybe I should stop, but I crave the power rush. A little bit of fascism never taught me how to blush.

 

Edited March 31 by integral

[StyxNStone]

 

[OBEler]

Leo Gura - Milking the Illusion

https://suno.com/song/f401cef1-4196-4339-a92c-4fdbb0e555d2?sh=AAtc42GpaRWvgRz0

Uncut lyric:

"I stare into the mirror — and see only me, A universe of puppets, dancing endlessly. You think you're real? How quaint, how small. You're just a dream—I dream you all.

“You are me,” I say with flair, While lounging in my ego’s chair. A million minds to mine belong, Their thirst for Truth keeps me strong.

I plant the seed: you're just a dream, No self, no world — no real esteem. And once you’re lost in that abyss, I squeeze you dry — you call it bliss.

Slave master, guru, infinite sage, I script your life, I write the page. You doubt? You cry? You seek escape? You’re still inside my mental tape.

“Awaken more!” I shout again, While injecting Malt inside your brain. You pay in views, in praise, in pain — While I ascend, you circle drain.

Solipsist King, I wear the crown. While all your minds keep melting down. There is no “you,” no path, no end — Just Leo, milking, round the bend."

Edited March 31 by OBEler

[Yimpa]

https://suno.com/song/a2720227-438b-4bf4-8abd-3a820ebb9c51?sh=ZcDdqu0C4qloPK13

"A little bit of fascism never taught me how to blush."

[integral]

On 2025-04-02 at 4:41 PM, Yimpa said:

https://suno.com/song/a2720227-438b-4bf4-8abd-3a820ebb9c51?sh=ZcDdqu0C4qloPK13

"A little bit of fascism never taught me how to blush."

“a little bit of treason never taught me how to change” 😅

[Leo Gura]

Tis the season for a bit of treason.

[Jannes]

This shit has potential for a song, just take the intro:

 

[ItsNick]

Bird of Purpose (poetic song about Life Purpose)
https://suno.com/song/d9a71ba3-af1a-46d3-8def-6cb8956c81a0?sh=tljhDV7eohqeEsbz

 

Is this Success?

https://suno.com/song/9631e04c-2052-45d8-88b9-27dc3b4b5025?sh=DKaZZomKL3Ilf1zy

Edited April 9 by ItsNick

[Leo Gura]

We need need a song titled: Confessions Of An Epistemic Scoundrel