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[Rishabh R]

@Davino I don't know what your perspective means could you clarify it further as it sounds harsh to me.

Edited Saturday at 01:00 PM by Rishabh R

[Davino]

@Rishabh R At the heart of acceptance is Love.

At the heart of Observation is Consciousness.

[Rishabh R]

@Davino Ok. 

[LifeEnjoyer]

Where'd the Zelnick interview go?

[Davino]

On quote #666 I'd love to watch an episode of yours explaining Reality as Mind. I'm sure it would be very insightful and would catalyse my ongoing awakenings and contemplation inquiries.

[Yimpa]

On 6/30/2026 at 2:51 PM, Davino said:

On quote #666 I'd love to watch an episode of yours explaining Reality as Mind. I'm sure it would be very insightful and would catalyse my ongoing awakenings and contemplation inquiries.

Leo explains that in his latest short in the Clips Vault, “#577 - There Is No Basis Between Reality And Hallucination”

[Davino]

@Yimpa Thanks for the reference but I'm pointing towards something far more radical. Hallucination/imagination is one of the functions of how Mind manufactures Reality.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Drawing Dragons

Recursive - I drew the below dragon in an attempt to render one from a dream.

Last year sometime 😁

 

[Extreme Z7]

Disappointed, @Leo Gura

You missed the opportunity to call your latest blog post, "Imagine Dragons" 

[Rafael Thundercat]

4 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Drawing Dragons

Recursive - I drew the below dragon in an attempt to render one from a dream.

Last year sometime 😁

 

Found this Dragon God Made here 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaR2Vm1sL06/?igsh=NmpzNDZ4aHQxenI0

 

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Drawing Dragons

Recursive - I drew the below dragon in an attempt to render one from a dream.

Last year sometime 😁

 

Very nice.

[Elliott]

 

AGI

Artificial General Ignorance

AGi   ™️

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Elliott

[UnbornTao]

10 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Drawing Dragons

Recursive - I drew the below dragon in an attempt to render one from a dream.

Last year sometime 😁

 

Fed into LLMs already. 

It's no longer yours.

Showing skill!

[Joseph Maynor]

I like the attention to detail in the texture.  

[Rafael Thundercat]

Ok ok.. if :

This:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-666

and This:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-668

And this:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-667

How come this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DaP-0bquaNf/?igsh=MXNjb2JlejI4bXVqaA==

If I start opening my hand with a cirurgic knife I will find all this layers, how come this are all made of nothing but hallucination? How come this is not some substance of component? How come this is not life itself? Bones,tendons,ligaments,veins, bloos, adipose tissue,skin? Only skin is already a very intricate complex thing realizing a lot just to keep being skin. I understand that dreams at  nigth are imaginary but this here is much more than the eery obscure random imagery that dreams are made of. And here is just one hand, not to say the whole planet. Is not like one will summarise the complexity of it all in some short quotes. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Rafael Thundercat

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

how come this are all made of nothing but hallucination?

You are assuming that non-hallucination can exist at all.

Stop assuming that.

To exist is to be imagined. Period.

If it isn't imagined, it does not exist.

You are imagining bones in your hand and then saying to yourself, "But these can somehow exist even without me imagining them." No! They can't. How could they?

It is like you are imagining that a fine dish can magically somehow exist by itself. No! Someone has to cook the dish. No cook, no dish.

Without you imagining them, there can be no bones. Stop assuming bones! Stop assuming ANYTHING!

Start with nothing whatsoever. Now, if you want something, anything, the only way you can get it is by imagining it into existence. if you want bones, you better figure out how to imagine bones. If you cannot imagine it, it will not exist.

Don't you get it? You are taking stuff existing for granted.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[r0ckyreed]

I think what he is saying is that the fine dish requires something outside of your imagination to create it. For instance, the cook/chef exists whether or not you are perceiving/imagining him. You can order a pizza from Pizza Hut, but there are cooks and factories and slaughterhouses involved in that process that you may have no direct awareness of.

I am not aware of how any of my cells work. I cannot even imagine how they work, but yet they do. I couldn’t type this sentence right now without my biology and chemistry working together. I cannot confuse the limits of my imagination with the limits of Reality.

That chef who cooked my pizza could have put poison in my pizza. When I order my pizza, I do not imagine poison in my pizza but yet that won’t stop me from dying. I think this would be the steel man of the objectivist position. 

An objectivist would argue that your direct awareness/imagination is limited and reality is beyond it. I am not aware of people behind me, but that doesn’t mean they can’t hit me over the head. The fact they can hit me over the head without me perceiving them shows that there is a world I am aware of and a world I am not.

Edited 51 minutes ago by r0ckyreed

[Natasha Tori Maru]

6 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Fed into LLMs already. 

It's no longer yours.

I really hate this. AI companies stealing great artists works to feed their models.

I think there are several huge lawsuits going on regarding stolen music to train models. Overall I strongly dislike AI image generators and music for this reason. But it's an interesting ethical question regarding IP and creators.

Is using copyrighted material for training a form of fair use or copyright infringement ?Does consent from creators matter?
Should creators be compensated if their work contributes to a commercial AI model?
If a model can closely imitate a particular artist's style or generate convincing copies, where should the legal line be drawn? 

I love how AI fanatics focus on the model and AlL THe PoTENtIaL and ignore all the ethical implications.

Anyway rant over 🥹

[Raze]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

You are assuming that non-hallucination can exist at all.

Stop assuming that.

To exist is to be imagined. Period.

If it isn't imagined, it does not exist.

You are imagining bones in your hand and then saying to yourself, "But these can somehow exist even without me imagining them." No! They can't. How could they?

It is like you are imagining that a fine dish can magically somehow exist by itself. No! Someone has to cook the dish. No cook, no dish.

Without you imagining them, there can be no bones. Stop assuming bones! Stop assuming ANYTHING!

Start with nothing whatsoever. Now, if you want something, anything, the only way you can get it is by imagining it into existence. if you want bones, you better figure out how to imagine bones. If you cannot imagine it, it will not exist.

Don't you get it? You are taking stuff existing for granted.

Do imaginations have different degrees of realness? Or if I imagine a rainbow colored unicorn is it as real as the chair I’m sitting it?

Edited 17 minutes ago by Raze

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Raze said:

Do imaginations have different degrees of realness?

Yes. You imagine different degrees of realness. You imagine that a Skyrim dragon is less real than a skin and bones dragon.