Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Alexop]

@r0ckyreed the better you survive the harder to pass the real "IQ test"

Camel... eye of the needle... Heaven

 

 

[Leo Gura]

The point of the test is to show how unformalizable intelligence is.

[Xonas Pitfall]

This test seems flawed... If one person is stronger or faster and another is weaker or slower, yet both conceptually understand that the animal is dangerous and that escape is required, then success on the performance test mostly reflects pre-existing physical traits. It also reflects what someone happened to focus on in life, such as athletics rather than academic or analytical skills.

I would agree with the test if it focused on interaction with an unfamiliar object, animal, or alien. In that case, it could measure openness, comprehension, adaptability, and the ability to process abnormal or unexpected features. How much can you accept something that is foreign to you? How well can you work with paradoxical traits? How do you make sense of something when you have very little prior reference for what it is?
However, the moment you add the possibility of physical attack, the test becomes about survival.

I can be the most intelligent and conscious person in the world, but if an animal outruns me and eats my guts alive because I do not have the genetic composition of a panther or a cheetah, and that somehow counts as a study of my “intelligence”, then I would not call that a good measure at all.

It reminds me of an argument from Charisma on Command interview with Leo. “Fine Leo... all this psychedelics and consciousness talk is irrelevant if someone can just shoot you with a gun.” Leo responded that if someone shot Einstein in the head during a lecture, it would not invalidate Einstein’s theories. So if the theory is not disproven at the moment survival ends, then survival itself should not be used as the measure in the first place (or, at the very least, carefully removed or accounted for on the test.)

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The point of the test is to show how unformalizable intelligence is.

You could say something is “unformalizable,” yet you would still try to use logic to comprehend God, or at least the “logic of God,” the pure logic itself. There are more and less accurate systems of utilization and judgement for a characteristic. By that same argument, I could also say:

“I invented my own IQ test. The true test is how much blind faith you can place in an imaginary figure. It measures your ability to be open, receptive, and unjudging or unbiased before reality. And to be clear, I am not saying IQ is linked to faith. I am pointing out how unformalizable intelligence really is.”

Edited 10 hours ago by Xonas Pitfall

[CARDOZZO]

"The only true test of intelligence is if you get what you want out of life." Naval

"If You're So Smart, Why Aren't You Happy?" Naval

"If You're So Smart, Why Aren't You Awakened?" Cardozzo 

[Alexop]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

The point of the test is to show how unformalizable intelligence is.

"But Leo we need a clear definition/formula for everything, otherwise it means we don't get it. Not that it is impossible to do it" 😆 

[Vali2003]

@Leo Gura Will you be working with a professional editor for your book? I have a feeling it really makes the end-product a lot better. However, may be hard  to find someone that gets your content deeply enough and has editorial skills. 

Also, must be annoying to always have people tell you what they think you should do.

[Rafael Thundercat]

Manking relationship with labor quote need more to be talked about. I guess there is a lot of wisdom compressed in this one

https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-362

 

[Alexop]

55 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Manking relationship with labor quote need more to be talked about. I guess there is a lot of wisdom compressed in this one

https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-362

 

Almost anything mankind does collectively is toxic as fuck. Labor is no exception.

Edited 3 hours ago by Alexop

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Vali2003 said:

@Leo Gura Will you be working with a professional editor for your book?

Yes. But only after I finish writing the whole thing.

I don't mind edits, but no one can be allowed to interfere with the core work.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[bazera]

@Leo Gura

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But only after I finish writing the whole thing.

Do you have a rough idea of when that might be? like, a year, 5 years, 10 years?

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, bazera said:

@Leo Gura

Do you have a rough idea of when that might be? like, a year, 5 years, 10 years?

I don't want to promise anything. But I am hoping to finish my first book this year.

I have changed which book I am writing first. I have decided to start with a smaller, more direct book, rather than trying to explain all of philosophy in one book. The scope of the first book was just too large.

This new book writes much faster because it is more focused and direct.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Sincerity]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I have change which book I am writing first. I have decided to start with a smaller, more direct book, rather than trying to explain all of philosophy in one book.

That's cool! Looking forward to reading it.  

Edited 3 hours ago by Sincerity

[UnbornTao]

This kind of person is not suited for truth-seeking:

https://shorturl.at/LVTMF

[Petals]

@Leo Gura  is there going to be an episode on labor in the future? that would be great.

Edited 3 hours ago by Petals

[Rafael Thundercat]

18 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

This kind of person is not suited for truth-seeking:

https://shorturl.at/LVTMF

Shit

[Rafael Thundercat]

So Truth Seeking =God Seeking=Infinity Seeking=Not Knowing Seeking=Unbiased Mind Seeking =Infinite Love Seeking=Death=???

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Rafael Thundercat

[Peo]

27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This new book writes much faster because it is more focused and direct.

As someone with dyslexia, I hope your book will be available on Audible.

 

 

 

 

 

[UnbornTao]

38 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't want to promise anything. But I am hoping to finish my first book this year.

I have changed which book I am writing first. I have decided to start with a smaller, more direct book, rather than trying to explain all of philosophy in one book. The scope of the first book was just too large.

This new book writes much faster because it is more focused and direct.

Woohoo. Books!

[Human Mint]

After reading the latest posts about infinity and seeing the moving pictures depicting it I had a dream last night where I could turn the objects of my field of view into infinity, at will. Just like when you're dreaming and you desire an ice cream and then it materializes in your hand, I tried to do that but proyecting objects into infinity. It feels like a farse afterwards now that I think about it in a wakefulnes state, but it felt like a training similar to when Neo trains with Morpheus in their world simulators. I saw a wall with details and I could proyect it into infinity.

Edited 2 hours ago by Human Mint

[Leo Gura]

58 minutes ago, Peo said:

As someone with dyslexia, I hope your book will be available on Audible.

Yes, I definitely want audio versions. Not sure yet if I should read them or a professional. I don't read the best, but it would be more personal with my voice. Tough call.

1 hour ago, Petals said:

@Leo Gura  is there going to be an episode on labor in the future? that would be great.

Not sure. I'd have to think about what useful can be said about it.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura